Need a TTASA Question Answered

[link]

Amazing to read ALL of the comments and simple questions asked.And why do we all feel that the MSYA also not reading and looking on. And why should the Minister just hand over Govt. lands to people who have absolutely no respect or regard for others.No desire to respond to a simple question of why no Treasurer? Or why did the elected treasurer resign. Why the bodies with a record of building and staging well organized events just refuse to be part of a mickey mouse set up? And why this mickey mouse team, or is it a trio, feel that by pulling together a group, none of whom ever staged one single event, can fool the Minister into accepting their version of a general council as acceptable best practice.

No shame in saying is only the Rally Club to come on board. Do they not also have their own version of a rally club on board? So why wait for TTRC? Do they have a Karting body on board? (Since is only the rally club to come on board)

Did they not publish the staging of a NACAM Rally back in Nov. 2011.
And the selection of a Nation Drag Racing Team to represent T&T in St. Lucia.
Why no response to the driver, who they are demanding should apologize for the disgraceful behavior of their President.
Suggested allegations or questions on Public Liability Insurance.

On and on, and as some say, what do you expect from those that are suffering from delusions of grandeur and expecting the intelligent to follow a bunch of fools.

Rawle..boi...
I must hold on to this one...
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save to say that YOU ALL were advised by MSYA that your position was illegal.....& YOU ALL still conspire to project that same illegal position....
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I ask you & your 'cohorts' to desist from spreading misinformation to the general public,
the latest being your television interview which was clearly another attempt to discredit the motor sport unification efforts that TTASA has steadfastly worked toward with the broad-minded cooperation of it's current Affiliates.
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This is not an 'open door' response for rebuttal & I will not be drawn into your stupid baiting game.
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I direct you to officially document your allegations to MSYA, MATT, CARPET, MOP...heck, even OWTU if you want.........but keep your disgraceful public negativity to yourself & I dare you to channel those same words (WHICH YOU 'PROMISED' MSYA you wouldn't indulge in) to MSYA for action.
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Have a good day.

[AutoSport]

Amazing to read ALL of the comments and simple questions asked.And why do we all feel that the MSYA also not reading and looking on. And why should the Minister just hand over Govt. lands to people who have absolutely no respect or regard for others.No desire to respond to a simple question of why no Treasurer? Or why did the elected treasurer resign. Why the bodies with a record of building and staging well organized events just refuse to be part of a mickey mouse set up? And why this mickey mouse team, or is it a trio, feel that by pulling together a group, none of whom ever staged one single event, can fool the Minister into accepting their version of a general council as acceptable best practice.

No shame in saying is only the Rally Club to come on board. Do they not also have their own version of a rally club on board? So why wait for TTRC? Do they have a Karting body on board? (Since is only the rally club to come on board)

Did they not publish the staging of a NACAM Rally back in Nov. 2011.
And the selection of a Nation Drag Racing Team to represent T&T in St. Lucia.
Why no response to the driver, who they are demanding should apologize for the disgraceful behavior of their President.
Suggested allegations or questions on Public Liability Insurance.

On and on, and as some say, what do you expect from those that are suffering from delusions of grandeur and expecting the intelligent to follow a bunch of fools.

Rawle..boi...
I must hold on to this one...
.
save to say that YOU ALL were advised by MSYA that your position was illegal.....& YOU ALL still conspire to project that same illegal position....
.
I ask you & your 'cohorts' to desist from spreading misinformation to the general public,
the latest being your television interview which was clearly another attempt to discredit the motor sport unification efforts that TTASA has steadfastly worked toward with the broad-minded cooperation of it's current Affiliates.
.
This is not an 'open door' response for rebuttal & I will not be drawn into your stupid baiting game.
.
I direct you to officially document your allegations to MSYA, MATT, CARPET, MOP...heck, even OWTU if you want.........but keep your disgraceful public negativity to yourself & I dare you to channel those same words (WHICH YOU 'PROMISED' MSYA you wouldn't indulge in) to MSYA for action.
.
Have a good day.

And herein lies the lies you continue to perpetrate.Why not respond to the simple questions asked?You can fool some for a while but not forever. Others are saying that you and company have destroyed Circuit, and you are well on the way to achieving this with Drag Racing. Have fun.

Allegations? Look they are posted all over Trinituner by all and sundry who have recently been exposed to your team and your inimitable style of "dealing" with your issues.

I never promised nothing to MSYA. Again another lie by you that you try to convert into fact on this forum. Are you now even trying say the same about the Minister of Sport? And anyone else who stands up to you.

In the interim, those with a genuine desire to build and and develop their respective disciplines will continue to do so even as you pretend that some do not exist.

This long road will have a good ending, not withstanding your best efforts to destroy all whom you perceive as a threat. The Good Lord will see us through all of this.

[link]

Amazing to read ALL of the comments and simple questions asked.And why do we all feel that the MSYA also not reading and looking on. And why should the Minister just hand over Govt. lands to people who have absolutely no respect or regard for others.No desire to respond to a simple question of why no Treasurer? Or why did the elected treasurer resign. Why the bodies with a record of building and staging well organized events just refuse to be part of a mickey mouse set up? And why this mickey mouse team, or is it a trio, feel that by pulling together a group, none of whom ever staged one single event, can fool the Minister into accepting their version of a general council as acceptable best practice.

No shame in saying is only the Rally Club to come on board. Do they not also have their own version of a rally club on board? So why wait for TTRC? Do they have a Karting body on board? (Since is only the rally club to come on board)

Did they not publish the staging of a NACAM Rally back in Nov. 2011.
And the selection of a Nation Drag Racing Team to represent T&T in St. Lucia.
Why no response to the driver, who they are demanding should apologize for the disgraceful behavior of their President.
Suggested allegations or questions on Public Liability Insurance.

On and on, and as some say, what do you expect from those that are suffering from delusions of grandeur and expecting the intelligent to follow a bunch of fools.

Rawle..boi...
I must hold on to this one...
.
save to say that YOU ALL were advised by MSYA that your position was illegal.....& YOU ALL still conspire to project that same illegal position....
.
I ask you & your 'cohorts' to desist from spreading misinformation to the general public,
the latest being your television interview which was clearly another attempt to discredit the motor sport unification efforts that TTASA has steadfastly worked toward with the broad-minded cooperation of it's current Affiliates.
.
This is not an 'open door' response for rebuttal & I will not be drawn into your stupid baiting game.
.
I direct you to officially document your allegations to MSYA, MATT, CARPET, MOP...heck, even OWTU if you want.........but keep your disgraceful public negativity to yourself & I dare you to channel those same words (WHICH YOU 'PROMISED' MSYA you wouldn't indulge in) to MSYA for action.
.
Have a good day.

And herein lies the lies you continue to perpetrate.Why not respond to the simple questions asked?You can fool some for a while but not forever. Others are saying that you and company have destroyed Circuit, and you are well on the way to achieving this with Drag Racing. Have fun.

Allegations? Look they are posted all over Trinituner by all and sundry who have recently been exposed to your team and your inimitable style of "dealing" with your issues.

I never promised nothing to MSYA. Again another lie by you that you try to convert into fact on this forum. Are you now even trying say the same about the Minister of Sport? And anyone else who stands up to you.

In the interim, those with a genuine desire to build and and develop their respective disciplines will continue to do so even as you pretend that some do not exist.

This long road will have a good ending, not withstanding your best efforts to destroy all whom you perceive as a threat. The Good Lord will see us through all of this.

ooopppss.....
I stand corrected.....
you only stated words to that effect.....
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[frustr8ed]

save to say that YOU ALL were advised by MSYA that your position was illegal.....& YOU ALL still conspire to project that same illegal position....

illegal? Yet the MYSA is supporting TTRC and not TTASA

I ask you & your 'cohorts' to desist from spreading misinformation to the general public,

misinformation?

Link, who is the treasurer of TTASA? Who is accounting for the money that TTASA collects?
I was told that is TTASA private business and the public cannot see the accounts.

the latest being your television interview which was clearly another attempt to discredit the motor sport unification efforts that TTASA has steadfastly worked toward with the broad-minded cooperation of it's current Affiliates.

I saw it and to me all they were asking for is DEMOCRACY. Is that considered "discrediting motor sport unification efforts"?

This is not an 'open door' response for rebuttal

ah! now we are getting some honesty! Closed door tactics and dictatorship is TTASAs way then?

I direct you to officially document your allegations to ... MSYA for action.

Link you cannot even direct traffic

The clubs (who actually have proper motor sport events) went on TV to state they want unity by democracy.
The Minister of Sport went on TV to say he also wants unity and that everyone should work at it.
Neither TV interview was in support of TTASA.
Exactly what "allegations" then should be "documented" to MSYA?

TTASA is so undemocratic, people fed up of Ali and they have been resigning left right and center since 2010 yet no internal bi elections, no treasurer but Ali and his wife "keeping the money "safe".
The great Motor Sport General Council was chaired by Ali without him being elected. Then Ali chose Pernell Roberts to be chairman without elections. Zero democracy.

and you have the gall to come here and talk about illegal?

[RoTaRyBoYz]

The masses need to get together and raise public awareness to the folks that are in the dark about TTASA.. I say print some flyers and give it to the people entering Camden on TTASA race days. I would volunteer my time if there is a well organized stance against TTASA

[frustr8ed]

the organised clubs are already going on TV and even the Minister of Sport is not supporting TTASA in their current state. In fact if I remember correctly the last minister of sport didnt support TTASA either!

a public protest would not matter

TTASA are like hard back cockroach. Lix just rolls off their back and they just won't die.

[RoTaRyBoYz]

the organised clubs are already going on TV and even the Minister of Sport is not supporting TTASA in their current state. In fact if I remember correctly the last minister of sport didnt support TTASA either!

a public protest would not matter

TTASA are like hard back cockroach. Lix just rolls off their back and they just won't die.

Ah hope dem fellas read this before rocking another slap on Link.. It makes no sense fellas

[Computerman]

I apologise here BEFORE I post, because, obviously y'all don't care to read :

But nowhere in there does FIA say they have to be the same body. TTASA is just connecting dots that do not exist to continue to fool the weak minded!

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person...
please refer to T&T National Sport Policy (national governing bodies- requirements)...then revisit above statement...
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rgds

Person? But Link like yuh forget me already. In 2008, during Camden we used to talk good, especially after a few beers! But to refresh yuh memory check back the 2008 - 2009 issue of Who's Who in Trinidad and Tobago Business, pg 16.

I do not need to revisit my statement. TTASA's position as NGB is an appointment by the MSYA, not FIA. FIA does not require that they 'deal' with the NGB of any given territory! If you would care to post the T&T NSP requirements I would be greatful, so I can continue to remove the veil of misinformation that you are propagating to the general population!

Let's examine a hypothetical situation. If changes were made for the benefit of Motorsport in T&T, and TTASA opted to join the 'umbrella' body (hypothetically speaking let's call it The Motorsport Authority of Trinidad and Tobago). If TMATT were made NGB, FIA would still 'deal' with TTASA, not TMATT. Any Organisation wishing to host a sanctioned event would still have to go through TTASA for FIA sanctioning. However, TTASA (and all other organisations under the 'umbrella') would be accountable to TMATT! Why is it that every other Organisation is willing be transparent and accountable but TTASA is not?

The FIA shall recognize in each country and for all
branches of motoring only one Sporting Power which
under all circumstances shall remain responsible to the
FIA; the holder of this power is the direct motor sport
representative of its country within the FIA and is
entrusted with having the international regulations laid
down by the International Sporting Code of the FIA
enforced in its country.

Part of the first things they say... the area in bold must be rather important to the legitimacy of the NSO.

Exactly. That has absolutely nothing to do with the legitimacy of the NSO/NGB of any territory (from the FIA's standpoint). The appointment of an NSO/NGB is the sole right of the sovereign territory.

[AutoSport]

Drag Racing 27th May@ Camden: Meeting Friday 25th

red_dragon: Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 1:40 pm
TTASA was of time ....
Sunday 27th Competition 11.00am to 5.00pm
what a joke
it is now 1:35pm and not one race
TTASA = Tru tru @$$ Syndrome @SSES ...
Praise to them in Killing drags again

red_dragon: Posted Sun May 27, 2012 3:15 pm
I hope they refund people ... 3pm and no real racing ..

Jussblaze: Posted: Sun May 27, 2012 6:53 pm
at 4:30 pm they were still charging $100 at camden....$100 entry fee....madness... i made my way up to ARC after and there were more people up there....TTASA fail..

And AutoSport D&W patrons pay a whole $30.00 to this day and drivers having a real good time in competition.
Remember what I said: The Good Lord will see us through this!

[fiveforward]

Link I take it by your inability to answer some very simple answers posted, especially by myself that you yourself are not sure about TTASA and the fact that what they are currently doing is WRONG, IMMORAL and in some cases against the Law of not only Motorsport by the land.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ TTASA's general elections is on July 11th 2012

contact them, join up and go vote.

[AutoSport]

^ TTASA's general elections is on July 11th 2012

contact them, join up and go vote.

So let's try to ask Link another simple question....
What will it take for motor sport lovers to join TTASA and have a say in voting.
Or if we do get a simple answer, will we now see all of the conditions that will debar most from being able to join and finally have a say?

[pete]

[SR]

tell that to all the johnny come lately's who rushing to form clubs to be part of ttasa

all ttasa cares about is collecting money to pay thoer eff eye aye fees

wonders if they paid up as yet or still in deficit

[wagonrunner]

Did anything change? viewtopic.php?f=4&t=381073&hilit=ttasa+meeting&start=330

Duane, did link ever answer you?
Le form.......


Le quote.....

[FugiTECH]

LOL

[SR]

dont forget TTASA puts a picture of the applicant on their bullitin board at their registered office for others to see if they want to protest........................

this was ttasa's policy a long time now