Is this considered Corruption?

[shaneelal]

No tendering was done for this purchase as my wife's company is actually the only supplier of these services in T&T.......therefore a waiver was done.........the sum isn't exorbitant, but still relatively high.

I don't want this be interpreted that my wife's commission is my 'kickback' for linking this purchase.

Depending on what the supplied item/service is, someone can ask why it wasn't tendered to include suppliers outside T&T. It would be better if you sought proper legal advice.

[Aaron 2NR]

after this make out i doubt he would be posting again...

[X2]

Isn't the contract not require tendering if it's under 500k. Over 500k and no tender is corruption right there.... they should go to international tender... and as said, in this day and age... there is no such thing as being the only supplier... that argument is corrupted in itself.

Aside from the 500k limit, i don't see what's wrong with the recommendation as long as you are not a decision maker in you organisation.

[Habit7]

[Bizzare]

[rfari]

Man geh made normal dey yes.

[Devourment]

after this make out i doubt he would be posting again...

Small ting...i sure every man jack have two or three accounts on tnr.


anyway, thanks for the info people. Will declare conflict of intrest soon, but I spoke to the head of purchasing today and he has no problem with it as it's an entirely different section that will be handling the purchase.

Yes it is over 500k, but it has met the requirements for waiver as to get another company to do will cost exponentially more, but it's more the time frame to get the job done that got it passed.

[Peanut Punch]

i think once the proper procurement procedures were followed all should be ok. ... u need to check with the purchasing policy to see u if breached any procedure.

[Rainman]

after this make out i doubt he would be posting again...

Small ting...i sure every man jack have two or three accounts on tnr.


anyway, thanks for the info people. Will declare conflict of intrest soon, but I spoke to the head of purchasing today and he has no problem with it as it's an entirely different section that will be handling the purchase.

Yes it is over 500k, but it has met the requirements for waiver as to get another company to do will cost exponentially more, but it's more the time frame to get the job done that got it passed.

what you and the wifey gonna buy with that big commission?

[tr1ad]

so no tendering process because you all already know it will take longer elsewhere....

nice one

spend the "commission" well

[wagonrunner]

Small ting...i sure other small men have two or three accounts on tnr.

[Aaron 2NR]

So again what service is it???

i have never heard of a company paying commission to employees when they are the SOLE provider of a service....

[Rory Phoulorie]

...i have never heard of a company paying commission to employees when they are the SOLE provider of a service....

She won a new account for her company. Whether that company is the sole LOCAL provider or not, she gained new business for her employer = commission. That does happen.

[Aaron 2NR]

so how are you aware that the company hasn't done similar work in another ministry??

[r3iXmann]

corruption rampant boy

[Rory Phoulorie]

so how are you aware that the company hasn't done similar work in another ministry??

What exactly don't you understand by "SHE GAINED NEW BUSINESS FOR HER EMPLOYER"? Considering your argument that it may with the same client, GORTT in this case, HER WORK has gotten the company business OVER AND ABOVE the original scope of work with the GORTT and, if the company's policies allow for commissions, such a circumstance will warrant her getting a commission.

[Aaron 2NR]

i just think a lot of information is being left out......

[r3iXmann]

bottom line is:

OP is indirectly receiving a kickback (which he is aware of). that = corruption

[Rainman]

bottom line is:

OP is indirectly receiving a kickback (which he is aware of). that = corruption

Thank you!


Put a silk hat on a pig, guess what? It's still a pig.

[X2]

The commission is not a kickback...work is being done for that money. There is a fine line there and explicit details would render legit from corrupt....but this....

Yes it is over 500k, but it has met the requirements for waiver as to get another company to do will cost exponentially more, but it's more the time frame to get the job done that got it passed.

Dude whut ?

Did you read what you just typed ? No need to tender because you already know everyone else is too expensive ?? Muahahahaha ! That don't work so brah.....That right there IS the corruption !

No one else can do it ? The company have the cure for cancer or aids ? Maybe the common cold ? Roti skin with no fat or cholesterol ? I am sooo excited about this miracle product that I think I need to pee....

[tr1ad]

that's what i was getting at earlier X2

that's the breach right there..... "everyone else expensive and will take longer" and the op even said that wifey company was the only one, then story changed

[Aaron 2NR]

that's what i was getting at earlier X2

that's the breach right there..... "everyone else expensive and will take longer" and the op even said that wifey company was the only one, then story changed

This goes against all guidelines set out by central tender board....

[De Dragon]

It seems like you already made up your mind before you even posted here. While it may not be outright corruption, it seems highy irregular and improper given the little information that you have posted here.

[Habit7]

If you all want to find out about corruption, check out tomorrow's T&T Mirror....

[r3iXmann]

The commission is not a kickback...work is being done for that money.

*he* is still receiving a(n indirect) profit for his 'recommendation', so technically it IS a kickback

[Rory Phoulorie]

This goes against all guidelines set out by central tender board....

I get the impression that the OP is working for a State owned enterprise (HDC, eTecK, EFCL, UdeCoTT, etc.) from the way he uses the term "company (gov)" in his initial post. If that is indeed so, then the State owned enterprise is not bound by the rules of the Central Tenders Board (CTB). They have their own Tenders Committee and their own tender rules, which are more "flexible" than the CTB's own.

[X2]

state owned enterprise is not bound by the rules of the Central Tenders Board (CTB). They have their own Tenders Committee and their own tender rules, which are more "flexible" than the CTB's own.

Uh. Whut ?

[Aaron 2NR]

This goes against all guidelines set out by central tender board....

I get the impression that the OP is working for a State owned enterprise (HDC, eTecK, EFCL, UdeCoTT, etc.) from the way he uses the term "company (gov)" in his initial post. If that is indeed so, then the State owned enterprise is not bound by the rules of the Central Tenders Board (CTB). They have their own Tenders Committee and their own tender rules, which are more "flexible" than the CTB's own.

I remember being in a seminar put on my mof concerning this sort of activity. Single sourcing a contractor is frowned upon especially at such value.

[Rory Phoulorie]

state owned enterprise is not bound by the rules of the Central Tenders Board (CTB). They have their own Tenders Committee and their own tender rules, which are more "flexible" than the CTB's own.

Uh. Whut ?

Exactly what I said. I prepare contract documents for State owned enterprises as well as Government Ministries. I therefore see all of their tender rules and tender evaluation criteria.

Under the present partially decentralised regime it is possible for agencies that are within the purview of the CTB to by-pass the CTB, with Cabinet approval, and enter into contracts with State-owned companies who in turn sub-contract using their own procurement rules and procedures.

Reform of the Public Sector Procurement Regime

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

after this make out i doubt he would be posting again...

Small ting...i sure every man jack have two or three accounts on tnr.

nope

not because other people are doing something makes it OK or no longer wrong

that philosophy will also help with the corruption issue as well