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Well you self so chupid to put that personal info out there...Wha yuh tink was goin an happen?RASC wrote:teems1 wrote:pioneer wrote:right so...all the CIA deniable ops that take place daily, worldwide...are all legal?
dude, if GWB used the CIA to spy on Gore or Kerry, there would have been hell to pay.
this is a matter of using state resources for personal vendettas
HAHAHAHA
Jed you so dunno what does go on out here.
Aight hoss, go back to your cnn and bbc, they tell you the be all and end all of all the world's secrets.
AllTrac wrote:RASC wrote:teems1 wrote:pioneer wrote:right so...all the CIA deniable ops that take place daily, worldwide...are all legal?
dude, if GWB used the CIA to spy on Gore or Kerry, there would have been hell to pay.
this is a matter of using state resources for personal vendettas
HAHAHAHA
Jed you so dunno what does go on out here.
Aight hoss, go back to your cnn and bbc, they tell you the be all and end all of all the world's secrets.
why he doesnt know what going on there?? cause he not living there he does jsut see what going on on the tele?? orrr rite rite it have ah fella with de same predicament
fullthrotle wrote:all this wiretapping and how is it that the murder rate went up five fold under the pnm?
more than the legality of this matter,
the people in this department should be dismissed for being incompetent.
what a lazy ineffective bunch of "police, special branch"
what the cia "involvement" in venezuela have to do with SIA?
how is the cia related in anyway to the SIA? other than the IA
do you know the grade to get into trinidad's police force?
3 olevels and you on the inside. and then after 20 years of being a louse in t he police service then you enter the SIA to really create havoc and mayhem .
SIA and CIA, chalk and cheese.
this is trinidad, land of the pnm.
the SIA officers should be asked to return t he money given to their gul and man, and man cousin.
and then be dismissed for being incompetent.
RoTaRyBoYz wrote:fullthrotle wrote:all this wiretapping and how is it that the murder rate went up five fold under the pnm?
more than the legality of this matter,
the people in this department should be dismissed for being incompetent.
what a lazy ineffective bunch of "police, special branch"
what the cia "involvement" in venezuela have to do with SIA?
how is the cia related in anyway to the SIA? other than the IA
do you know the grade to get into trinidad's police force?
3 olevels and you on the inside. and then after 20 years of being a louse in t he police service then you enter the SIA to really create havoc and mayhem .
SIA and CIA, chalk and cheese.
this is trinidad, land of the pnm.
the SIA officers should be asked to return t he money given to their gul and man, and man cousin.
and then be dismissed for being incompetent.
Ding ding ding... someone is thinking. No problem with having a CIA type agency in Trinidad, but could someone tell me what significant benefit has it given the citizens of the country? Has any kidnap victim been rescued because of intelligence gathered by said secret agency? How about major drug bust or other major crimes? Allyuh talking about the CIA. When the CIA is involved, it's usually to benefit the country or the people that run it.
With that said, in what way has this agency benefited the people of Trinidad & Tobago? Because I'm sure a few top government officials where able to full their pockets with the info received - Come on meng, it's Trinidad we dealing with here so doh bawl how I know dem fellas full dey pockets
SmokeyGTi wrote:^^ you kinda have a point there...may they have something in the works to replace the functions these agencies performed.
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Well it have IMF, NO SCN 
" <---That's your "plan" right there. 5onDfloor wrote:RoTaRyBoYz wrote:fullthrotle wrote:all this wiretapping and how is it that the murder rate went up five fold under the pnm?
more than the legality of this matter,
the people in this department should be dismissed for being incompetent.
what a lazy ineffective bunch of "police, special branch"
what the cia "involvement" in venezuela have to do with SIA?
how is the cia related in anyway to the SIA? other than the IA
do you know the grade to get into trinidad's police force?
3 olevels and you on the inside. and then after 20 years of being a louse in t he police service then you enter the SIA to really create havoc and mayhem .
SIA and CIA, chalk and cheese.
this is trinidad, land of the pnm.
the SIA officers should be asked to return t he money given to their gul and man, and man cousin.
and then be dismissed for being incompetent.
Ding ding ding... someone is thinking. No problem with having a CIA type agency in Trinidad, but could someone tell me what significant benefit has it given the citizens of the country? Has any kidnap victim been rescued because of intelligence gathered by said secret agency? How about major drug bust or other major crimes? Allyuh talking about the CIA. When the CIA is involved, it's usually to benefit the country or the people that run it.
With that said, in what way has this agency benefited the people of Trinidad & Tobago? Because I'm sure a few top government officials where able to full their pockets with the info received - Come on meng, it's Trinidad we dealing with here so doh bawl how I know dem fellas full dey pockets
use common sense.......have u ever seen or heard of any CIA type operations being divulged in public? or their success\failure rate?
so how the rasclat u expect the SIA to state which kidnappings\murders\crimes they solve or not?
the modus operande of these covert institutions is to remain unseen and deny any involvement or existence.
so let me ask all u PP sychophants a simple question?
Allyuh stop d OPV's
Allyuh dismantle SUATT
Allyuh goin and disband SIA....
now we cant deny that these tools are good to have for fighting crime etc etc etc.
so why not use these tools to yuh advantage and show us PNMites and the rest of the world that u can reep better greater results as oppose to the last administration????
RoTaRyBoYz wrote:5onDfloor wrote:RoTaRyBoYz wrote:fullthrotle wrote:all this wiretapping and how is it that the murder rate went up five fold under the pnm?
more than the legality of this matter,
the people in this department should be dismissed for being incompetent.
what a lazy ineffective bunch of "police, special branch"
what the cia "involvement" in venezuela have to do with SIA?
how is the cia related in anyway to the SIA? other than the IA
do you know the grade to get into trinidad's police force?
3 olevels and you on the inside. and then after 20 years of being a louse in t he police service then you enter the SIA to really create havoc and mayhem .
SIA and CIA, chalk and cheese.
this is trinidad, land of the pnm.
the SIA officers should be asked to return t he money given to their gul and man, and man cousin.
and then be dismissed for being incompetent.
Ding ding ding... someone is thinking. No problem with having a CIA type agency in Trinidad, but could someone tell me what significant benefit has it given the citizens of the country? Has any kidnap victim been rescued because of intelligence gathered by said secret agency? How about major drug bust or other major crimes? Allyuh talking about the CIA. When the CIA is involved, it's usually to benefit the country or the people that run it.
With that said, in what way has this agency benefited the people of Trinidad & Tobago? Because I'm sure a few top government officials where able to full their pockets with the info received - Come on meng, it's Trinidad we dealing with here so doh bawl how I know dem fellas full dey pockets
use common sense.......have u ever seen or heard of any CIA type operations being divulged in public? or their success\failure rate?
so how the rasclat u expect the SIA to state which kidnappings\murders\crimes they solve or not?
the modus operande of these covert institutions is to remain unseen and deny any involvement or existence.
so let me ask all u PP sychophants a simple question?
Allyuh stop d OPV's
Allyuh dismantle SUATT
Allyuh goin and disband SIA....
now we cant deny that these tools are good to have for fighting crime etc etc etc.
so why not use these tools to yuh advantage and show us PNMites and the rest of the world that u can reep better greater results as oppose to the last administration????
Breds, yuh living under ah rock orh? There are about a zillion documentaries on TV, magazines & books about CIA & FBI operations around the world. I'm not saying for the SIA to come out and tell the public what methods or how they actually went about to solving a case, just a simple "with the help of the SIA, we were able to make an arrest". Show the public that you're doing something for them also instead of using it for your benefit only. Once you could show the people that yuh looking out for them & yuh make them happy, dey eh care how much money yuh teef..
nex year too!
pioneer wrote:right so...all the CIA deniable ops that take place daily, worldwide...are all legal?
Hook wrote:lol...now, I don't USUALLY post in political type threads (and this may well be my first and last post in THIS thread) but lemme give some of you a little food for thought while we going on about "rights".
I hope we're all aware that everything that gets posted on the Internet is scanned (Homeland Security, Interpol blah blah blah) for certain key words and phrases that may indicate or even suggest a terrorist threat. From that point on, intelligence is dispached to look at your online activity/history before you are indeed deemed a threat and actual physical surveillance is required. Even frequenting some hacker sites gets you flagged. Hell I might even be flagged for the number of key words in THIS post.
So let's try to be objective here...let's put aside where we placed our X in May and take a look at this thing.
Really, not ALL phones on the island were tapped, so I don't see why the average Joe on the street, a non-entity in the grand scheme of things, is so concerned about getting THEIR phones tapped. Suddenly everybody has a "right to know"...REALLY?
Wouldn't the release of the full list encroach further on those people's "right" to privacy when they're cast into the public domain?
If it can indeed be proven by paper-trail that this was a PNM directive executed by the UNC, it doesn't bode well for the PP in the next elections...remember they won from a swing of the electorate.
What say you then? Will you vote for the other guy then?
What of all the "integrity" and "transparency" that was touted on the campaign trail?
But back to my original point, the powers that be on the internets saw it fir to monitor everybody, but nobody's bawling about "rights". Let's all hate on the interwebz for monitoring our data packets! damn you interwebz! *shakes fist at teh internets* KAMALAAAAAAA!!!!!!
Devourment wrote:Firstly, it seems like the IQ of this forum is dropping everyday.
Is it not obvious how man used and encourage crime under his watch to create a runaway and lawless spending spree from National Security.
Manning played you guys like fools back then and is still doing it now. Drugs? Mr. Big? all illusions and distractions to justify more and more money going into Nat Sec with no accountability.
Have you all ever been to SAUTT in Riverside Plaza, El Soccoro or Cumuto? You will see hundreds of men sit down doing nothing, you will see fancy ass equipment big screen LCDs etc littered every.
Yet a simple thing like GPS on police cars was never implemented.
Think people.
Also, TSTT wants to deny assisting with phone tapping? Please....ask them about their Israeli consultants and what their real job specification is.
Another thing, do you guys have any idea how illegal this wire tapping really is?
It is only in communist or socialist dictatorships like Cuba, Russia, China & Venezuela where things like this occur.
You think americans would sit back and justify something like this?
FBI can do wiretapping willy nilly, yes that's a fact.
But do you think any USA president will get away with spying on his political enemies? That is a gross misuse of state resources and the american people will never stand for anything like that.
Spying for crime, suspected terrorists etc. is fully justified, but it is extremely clear this SIA was Manning's gestapo team.
) and complain of the media's coverage showing too much of favour in them not being the best people to lead this country and what do you get....*crickets chirp*Conrad wrote: You couldn't take a screen capture of the Ole Talk forum at the end of 2009 without catching 2 political threads in the picture.
Truth.Conrad wrote:People quiet.
A past PM didn't like the direct attack he heard against him while he was getting a hair cut. Made his way from South to the radio's HQ and demanded that the announcer retract his words/pay for such an attack. The entire country jumped on the "PM1 is a communist" train.
AG & Min of Security go on national TV (btw all stations booked for the foreseeable future for a simultaneous broadcast
Before, Ole Talk would've had 4-5 threads from the time the papers published it. Duane doesn't even have to operate a completely separate section for political/local current affairs talk any more due to overwhelming "public outcry". You couldn't take a screen capture of the Ole Talk forum at the end of 2009 without catching 2 political threads in the picture.
Govt wants daily programme on its accomplishments
The Government wants one hour per day of State-produced programming on its accomplishments to be aired on local radio and TV stations.
It also wants more local content programming on TV and radio stations operating in Trinidad and Tobago.
And if it is unable to persuade media houses to increase local content on the airwaves, Government may consider, as a last resort, introducing new laws to make TV and radio stations broadcast more local programmes.
Communications Minister Jamal Mohammed made these announcements at a reception for journalists and media managers hosted by his ministry at the Kapok Hotel, Maraval on Wednesday evening.
In a follow-up telephone interview yesterday, he said the government believed there was not enough local content programmes on radio and TV.
"We have to do what we can to encourage more local content," Mohammed said.
He said one way for his ministry to encourage local content was to use "moral suasion" with media owners and operators.
Another was to remind them of the tax concessions offered by the State for locally produced material while another was to reduce the annual broadcast licence fees media houses paid if they increased local content programming.
If all these fail, then Government will consider legislation to make radio and TV stations introduce more locally produced programmes, he said.
He used Canada as an example of a country which implemented legislation to increase local content.
Mohammed said the government also wanted one hour a day of airtime on local stations to broadcast that "this is a government doing things on behalf of the people".
He said the State would depend on each station to abide by a concession granted by the Telecommunications Authority of Trinidad and Tobago (TATT) to allow for Government programming.
"We don't want to use prime time. If we could get five per minutes per hour over 12 hours, we would have special government items to feature each hour," he said.
President of the Trinidad and Tobago Publishers and Broadcasters Association Kiran Maharaj suggested yesterday that Government needed to understand that local content would be better developed today if music and drama subjects had been emphasised in schools.
She also used the example of Canada but pointed out that this country's population was substantially larger than Trinidad and Tobago's and there was a sizeable market for local content there.
However, in Trinidad and Tobago, the format of local stations was dictated by what society wanted to hear and watch.
"If there was a need for local programming, we would do it," Maharaj insisted. "But the history of stations in the country shows that the market is not clamouring for it."
She said in a telephone interview yesterday that it was important to remember that media stations also operated as businesses and in a democracy, the State could not dictate what stations played.
Maharaj argued that if the quality of broadcasts media houses received from the government service was anything to go on, then stations would in trouble (because of poor quality).
While TATT provided licences for media houses to broadcast content, Maharaj said those licences were given to "fulfill the needs of the markets we serve".
"You can't put something in place that restricts that or frustrates the marketplace," she said.
She suggested that Government use its CNMG TV station to experiment with an increase in local content to see how much interest there was in more local programming.
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