Ukraine Russia War

[Dohplaydat]

Dont worry, America have ur back FB_IMG_1697648967549.jpg

Well it's over way to since a demographic collapse, rather heinous and screwed up though

[sMASH]

Imagine if China resells the grain to Europe like how India resells Russian oil to Europe

[sMASH]

Germany admitting the lives coudl have been saved

[Dizzy28]

Gerhard Schroeder receives 1m per year from Putin and Russian companies.

OFC smash thinks he is someone who should be cited.

[sMASH]

Its obvious to them they they getting the better energy/economic deal now, than before with Nordstrom gas....
Sure...

[Dizzy28]

Videos coming out yesterday of of Russian S400 batteries burning in Luhansk.
Probably the last of the ATACMS the US sent but clearly put to good use.

There are supposedly up to 1,200 early block and retired ATACMS in US stockpiles.

This winter could be a tough one for the comrades

[sMASH]

Dont worry, America have ur back

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Protected snd tsken out of the conflict zone.

Unlike the savage Israelis.

[Dohplaydat]

Dont worry, America have ur back FB_IMG_1697648967549.jpg

Protected snd tsken out of the conflict zone.

Unlike the savage Israelis.

Well that's one way to look at it....

Adding some context to this article.

In July 2022, the United States estimated that Russia "forcibly deported" 260,000 children, while Ukraine's Ministry of Integration of Occupied Territories, says 19,492 Ukrainian children are currently considered illegally deported.

[sMASH]

Dont worry, America have ur back FB_IMG_1697648967549.jpg

Protected snd tsken out of the conflict zone.

Unlike the savage Israelis.

Well that's one way to look at it....

Adding some context to this article.

In July 2022, the United States estimated that Russia "forcibly deported" 260,000 children, while Ukraine's Ministry of Integration of Occupied Territories, says 19,492 Ukrainian children are currently considered illegally deported.

The fact that Russia is returning the Children through verified routes, is just proof it was not kidnapping.

The migrant children at the Mexican border, us officials just need someone to say they remotely related to the children before they get released.
That situation America has set up is allowing for human trafficking.. Look out for a barrage of child sex slave stories to come out in the. Coming years because of how America is handling its non national children...



The western propaganda machine twists reality against logic to suit its own agenda

[Dizzy28]

Seems like Russia just lost another ship to a country with no navy. The Askold is less than 2 years old as well.

[The_Honourable]

sMASH... take in this

[adnj]

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[Dohplaydat]

So everybody admitting now that this Ukrainian counter offensive has been a major failure.

Definitely don't expect western support to be as lavish as before going forward

[adnj]

[Dizzy28]

Today marks ten years since the EuroMaidan protests started. A precursor to the Russian aggression and eventual invasion.
Euromaidan or the Maidan Uprising, was a wave of demonstrations and civil unrest in Ukraine, which began on 21 November 2013 with large protests in Maidan Nezalezhnosti (Independence Square) in Kyiv.

Ukraine marks the 10th anniversary of the Euromaidan protest movement that erupted after then-President Viktor Yanukovych refused to sign an EU Association Agreement. Massive crowds of pro-European demonstrators occupied Kyiv's central square for months to oppose Yanukovych's plan for closer economic ties with Russia. In mid-February 2014, more than 100 people were killed as security forces opened fire on protesters. Ten years later, journalist Andriy Dubchak recalls the intense days and weeks of Euromaidan that led to the ousting of Moscow-friendly Yanukovych and set the country on a new, independent course.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-euromai ... 91984.html

[sMASH]

Has the spring offensive started yet?

[Dizzy28]

Has the spring offensive started yet?

Lets ask these guys

Shucks can't...4,000 dead and up to 200 pieces of armour lost.

[Dohplaydat]

Has the spring offensive started yet?

Lets ask these guys

Capture.GIF

Shucks can't...4,000 dead and up to 200 pieces of armour lost.

Russia probably will eventually take Avdiicka though.

Russia is also re-arming more rapidly than the west predicted and still have many elite and very effective forces.

Their defenses of occupied territory has been remarkably good as well.

All this means though is that no one can really make much of a move right now. Ukraine have also defended excellently as well.

Western support for Ukraine will wane, especially as many governments in Europe and possibly the US veer more right.

This might allow for Russia to do an effective push in 2025 taking more of Ukraine. We'll see.

As of right now no one winning or losing, but the advantage is with Russia.

[Dizzy28]

^ Ukraine has finally declared they will change tactics to preserve lives and focus on defense.
They also under realization that the West will falter in support have identified boosting domestic high tech weapons development.

The other day I was doing some research for work and was stunned to realize how high the % of engineering graduates of total tertiary graduates Russia and Ukraine produce. They should quickly be able to upscale things like missile and drone production.

[sMASH]

^ Ukraine has finally declared they will change tactics to preserve lives and focus on defense.
They also under realization that the West will falter in support have identified boosting domestic high tech weapons development.

The other day I was doing some research for work and was stunned to realize how high the % of engineering graduates of total tertiary graduates Russia and Ukraine produce. They should quickly be able to upscale things like missile and drone production.

With what economy?



Russia will move more west, to increase the buffer zone.

Next items on the agenda is demilitarization snd de nazification.

[Dizzy28]

^ Ukraine has finally declared they will change tactics to preserve lives and focus on defense.
They also under realization that the West will falter in support have identified boosting domestic high tech weapons development.

The other day I was doing some research for work and was stunned to realize how high the % of engineering graduates of total tertiary graduates Russia and Ukraine produce. They should quickly be able to upscale things like missile and drone production.

With what economy?



Russia will move more west, to increase the buffer zone.

Next items on the agenda is demilitarization snd de nazification.

Ukraine will get by.
Their leadership will not take aid money and become billionaires in Qatar

[Dohplaydat]

Russia's Rising Artillery Losses in Ukraine Leave Forces 'Totally Depleted'

Nov 23, 2023 at 10:16 AM EST


Ukrainian soldiers fire a 2S22 Bohdana self-propelled howitzer towards Russian positions on October 17, 2023, in Donetsk Oblast, Ukraine. The artillery duel has shifted in Kyiv's favor with the arrival of new NATO weapons.
ROMAN CHOP/GLOBAL IMAGES UKRAINE VIA GETTY IMAGES

The story of Ukraine's summer 2023 counteroffensive has on the surface been one of frustration, heavy losses, and little territorial gain. From the start, Ukrainian political and military leaders had to juggle high expectations with the tactical realities that ultimately proved so difficult for Kyiv's forces to overcome.

Officials in Kyiv have sought to ease Western concern at a lack of progress while pointing to the broader successes of Ukrainian operations. All of western Russia—and Moscow—are now in range of Ukrainian drones. Part of the Black Sea Fleet has reportedly been forced out of Crimea. And the erosion of Russia's soldiers and military equipment has continued at a rapid pace.

Ukraine's apparent edge in the artillery war is a particular point of pride for Kyiv. The big guns have dominated the battlefields from the first moments of Russia's full-scale invasion. For all its supposed modernization, Moscow's military doctrine has retained the historical Russian focus on artillery.

Russian gunners proved more numerous and well-supplied than their Ukrainian enemies in the early stages of the conflict. But as Kyiv's arsenal has been bolstered by NATO systems, Russia's "god of war" has been somewhat muted.

Kyiv's claimed tally of Russian equipment losses demonstrates the enthusiasm with which Ukrainian artillery and drone teams have hunted Russian big guns, as well as multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) that perform a similar function at shorter ranges.

From September to November 2023, Ukraine claimed to have destroyed 2,272 artillery pieces, and another 167 MLRS. In the same period in 2022, the figure was 789 artillery pieces and 108 MLRS. Newsweek cannot independently verify the figures and has contacted the Russian Defense Ministry to request comment.



https://www.newsweek.com/russia-rising- ... ls-1846415

True, but that doesn't paint the full picture, your biases never let you show the full truth does it.

Russia aren't the bumbling idiots we think they are.

[sMASH]

This is some of the recent conscripts for Ukraine.
They literally ran out out of fighting age men
They getting like a crssh course in warfare and. Sent to get blown up.
Ukraine basically running out the last bit of aid before they have to rearm

[Dohplaydat]

Ukrainian men still fleeing the draft to avoid fighting.

[Dohplaydat]

Now Germany economy bussing, look for Europe's right wing governments to grow and cozy back up to Russia in 2024.

[Dizzy28]

Today is Holodomor Memorial Day.
Or as Smash would say "Dey look for that day"

[Dohplaydat]

Ukraine fought tooth and nail for months to defend the eastern city of Bakhmut from a never-ending onslaught of Russian soldiers and Wagner Group mercenaries. The fighting, which claimed thousands of lives on both sides, was so brutal in nature that it was characterized as a "slaughter-fest" or "the meat grinder."

Kyiv dismissed skepticism at home and abroad and calls for it to rethink its approach to the city's defense, including calls from its Western allies to consider withdrawing and focus the effort elsewhere along the front lines.

The risky decision to stay there came with significant costs, and Moscow eventually captured the city in May. But war experts say that it paid off for Ukraine, both at the time and in the months that have followed.

The decision to fight for Bakhmut "had some pretty serious ramifications," George Barros, an analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, told Business Insider. Had Ukraine not stuck it out, Russia might never have experienced a number of important problems that degraded the country's war machine during and after the battle.

By staying and fighting in Bakhmut, Kyiv managed to stop Russia from moving deeper into eastern Ukraine, pin down large elements of the Russian military, including more elite units like Moscow's airborne forces, and hinder Russia's ability to maintain a large strategic reserve.



Mark Cancian, a retired US Marine Corps colonel and a senior advisor at the Center for Strategic International Studies, said Ukraine exhausted Russian forces during the battle for Bakhmut and denied Moscow the opportunity to make more significant territorial progress.

"The Russians bled themselves in trying to take Bakhmut," he told Business Insider.

He added that there were also political and symbolic elements to staying there, because regardless of its tactical and operational significance, losing the city without putting up a fight would have been discouraging and a blow to morale.

The Bakhmut fight also greatly contributed to the ultimate downfall of the notorious Wagner Group, Barros and Cancian said. Efforts to capture the city were largely carried out by the ruthless mercenaries, which also took the brunt of the casualties — relying on poorly trained convicts and gruesome human wave tactics.

During Wagner's months-long fight for Bakhmut, rifts behind the scenes between the mercenary group's leader, Yevgeny Prigozhin, and Russia's military leadership began to emerge publicly.



... "Even if you were to look at what in theory the Ukrainians had, it doesn't fix the problems with the southern counteroffensive," Barros said. "I think the southern counteroffensive likely would've experienced the same problems nonetheless."

Despite facing setbacks in its counteroffensive, at the same time, Ukraine has found plenty of success around the occupied Crimean peninsula, where Ukraine battered Russia's Black Sea Fleet with naval drones and long-range cruise missiles.

More recently, Kyiv's forces seem to have made some progress by conducting operations on the eastern bank of the Dnipro River, near Kherson, a natural barrier that Moscow long enjoyed to its advantage. Its another risky fight, and it remains to be seen how it all plays out.

https://www.businessinsider.com/ukraine ... ff-2023-11

Sounds like a lot of cope

[sMASH]

Redefining success.


Anyhow,
-denazification
-demilitarization
-commitment to refrain from nato.



Seeing as how the push away from Russian gas tanked their economies, i suspect just like recently Australia talking with China, the eu/nato members are reconsidering Their unquestioned loyalty to America.



Turkiye posturing against Israel is a demonstration that there is strength in the global South now, enough so that they are not afraid of the American bomb machine.


A new age is beginning.

[Dohplaydat]

Such are Putin's losses, his military advantage over NATO in the Baltic has also been wiped out, a new report has claimed.



Russia lost over 1,000 soldiers and 30 tanks in a single day as its forces are said to be "totally depleted" by the war with Ukraine.

The figures were released by the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on Friday and show the deteriorating condition of the conflict.

Since Vladimir Putin ordered his force to invade Ukraine in February 2022, Russia has lost over a total of 322,900 fighters, 5,496 tanks and 7,833 artillery systems.

But in just the last 24 hours before the figures were updated, Moscow lost 1,1000 military personal and 30 tanks.

And now the Russian army has been forced to turn to Soviet-era artillery after Ukraine's defence forces "totally depleted" its more modern arsenal, according to a former Ukrainian Security Service officer.

Ivan Stupak said: "It's really a big problem for the Russians. It's not just a cliché, it's not Ukrainian propaganda.

"For the last five months or so, Russia has very actively been using old-style artillery.

"Not late-Soviet era, but mid-50s and mid-60s—D30 and the D20-type of towed artillery, with a maximum range of around 9 to 11 miles."

Stupak said the range is much shorter than what more modern rounds can reach, insisting the use of older systems suggests Russia has effectively run out of artillery.

Speaking to Newsweek, the Ukrainian advisor said: "Russian artillery stockpiles are totally depleted.

"They are using this artillery because they have no other options."

Ukraine, too, has suffered great losses.

Kyiv gives no official toll of its war dead - stating that its war casualty numbers are a state secret.

But US officials, quoted by the New York Times, put the number at 70,000 dead and as many as 120,000 injured in August.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/18 ... ar-ukraine

Current forces are definitely depleted but imagine if they issued a real draft. We often forget Russia has 140m ppl

There's a lot of fear in the west now as left wing governments who toed the line for supporting this war slowly lose power due to financial burdens.

[sMASH]

That article sounds like Israeli hasbarah.


Ukraine will be winning and winning, Russia will be losing and losing, until Ukraine signs an armistice with russia.
And it might not be elenski... The way he is pushing the war still but the officials seeing the impossibility of it, unless he steps aside, he might get put down.