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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » October 3rd, 2023, 4:22 pm

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What middle class? So much of the country's women have fled, Ukriane is a poor AF corrupt shithole made even worse by this war. As soon as the war is over most of those men will leave the country as well.

Not saying this to be all doom and gloom and I do think they will become a strong arms manufacturer. But the reality is, Russia can keep this up longer than the West and Ukriane.

Slovakia, Hungry and Poland (likely) are all waning on their support for this war and is strains their economy.

A likely Trump victory will also mean the end of US support, without the US Ukraine is f*cked. Europe doesn't care, in fact most of Europe wants to side with Russia for economic reasons.

Ukraine's MP Lesia Vasylenko, even went on Skynew today and said Ukraine is losing the counter offensive.


The UN doesn't seem to agree with you.

The UN Human Development Index ranks Ukraine nearly the same as Russia, higher than China, Brazil or South Africa, higher than Jamaica, and higher than almost every country in Latin America and the Caribbean.


Lol that was before the war and eastern Ukraine was always poor.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... ead-queues

I'm talking comparatively with thier neighbours, even Russia where Moscowites are generally well off. Not too mention Poland's economy is booming, Ukrainian women all over Europe now, there's going to be a massive population decline (there already is) that's probably going to be made worse over time.

The country isn't going to rebuild easy like Japan and west Germany, Russia is still too strong and too powerful to allow that.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » October 3rd, 2023, 4:25 pm

adnj wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
What middle class? So much of the country's women have fled, Ukriane is a poor AF corrupt shithole made even worse by this war. As soon as the war is over most of those men will leave the country as well.

Not saying this to be all doom and gloom and I do think they will become a strong arms manufacturer. But the reality is, Russia can keep this up longer than the West and Ukriane.

Slovakia, Hungry and Poland (likely) are all waning on their support for this war and is strains their economy.

A likely Trump victory will also mean the end of US support, without the US Ukraine is f*cked. Europe doesn't care, in fact most of Europe wants to side with Russia for economic reasons.

Ukraine's MP Lesia Vasylenko, even went on Skynew today and said Ukraine is losing the counter offensive.


The UN doesn't seem to agree with you.

The UN Human Development Index ranks Ukraine nearly the same as Russia, higher than China, Brazil or South Africa, higher than Jamaica, and higher than almost every country in Latin America and the Caribbean.


As sad as the war is the before pictures of each Ukrainian city shows better roads and infrastructure than oil rich Trinidad. Mariupol was miles ahead of Port of Spain in aesthetics. IIRC there are four underground rapid systems in Ukraine. Imagine living in a country where in the Capital city you have to go line up/fight hordes in a transit hub just to go sit in mini busses but calling other countries poor AF shietholes.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby zoom rader » October 3rd, 2023, 7:56 pm

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zoom rader wrote:What a useless fvcking war propped up the US & UK.

All that money spent for whiteness while they don't give a damm in Palestine, Haiti and Africa.


The EU and USA are the 1st and 2nd highest aid donors to Palestine. How much do you think they should give? And how much should the Ummah give? Saudi Arabia and UAE funding a literal civil war in Yemen. Do you think fellow Arab Muslims give a damn about Palestine? If they don't why should anyone else?

The European Union: Driven by a desire to help implement the two-state solution and to also address serious socioeconomic needs in Palestinian society, the European Union regularly directs aid to several channels, including the institutions of the PA, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA), healthcare and social welfare organizations, and other groups working on humanitarian, educational, and other social issues. Following a partial suspension of funds in 2020—which was intended to force changes in Palestinian educational curricula—the EU released the roughly €215 million in aid that it had been withholding. And on average, the EU provides more than €600 million a year in aid to the Palestinians.

The United States: American aid to the Palestinians has been influenced over the years by the vicissitudes of US-Israeli relations, as well as by the central role Washington has played in steering what little remains of a peace process between Israel and Palestine. Nonetheless, the US is the second largest source of aid to the Palestinians. Following a drastic reduction of American aid during the Trump Administration—which then President Donald Trump attempted to use as leverage to force the Palestinians to accept his so-called “deal of the century” peace plan—the Biden Administration resumed funding in 2021, to the tune of almost $250 million
https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/inter ... velopment/.
The US has given Israel $146 Billion since November 2020.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2020 ... aid-israel

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby zoom rader » October 3rd, 2023, 7:57 pm

adnj wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
adnj wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:
What middle class? So much of the country's women have fled, Ukriane is a poor AF corrupt shithole made even worse by this war. As soon as the war is over most of those men will leave the country as well.

Not saying this to be all doom and gloom and I do think they will become a strong arms manufacturer. But the reality is, Russia can keep this up longer than the West and Ukriane.

Slovakia, Hungry and Poland (likely) are all waning on their support for this war and is strains their economy.

A likely Trump victory will also mean the end of US support, without the US Ukraine is f*cked. Europe doesn't care, in fact most of Europe wants to side with Russia for economic reasons.

Ukraine's MP Lesia Vasylenko, even went on Skynew today and said Ukraine is losing the counter offensive.


The UN doesn't seem to agree with you.

The UN Human Development Index ranks Ukraine nearly the same as Russia, higher than China, Brazil or South Africa, higher than Jamaica, and higher than almost every country in Latin America and the Caribbean.


Lol that was before the war and eastern Ukraine was always poor.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... ead-queues

I'm talking comparatively with thier neighbours, even Russia where Moscowites are generally well off. Not too mention Poland's economy is booming, Ukrainian women all over Europe now, there's going to be a massive population decline (there already is) that's probably going to be made worse over time.

The country isn't going to rebuild easy like Japan and west Germany, Russia is still too strong and too powerful to allow that.
Sure. No country ever bounces back from a war.
Japan and and the then West Germany did

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby zoom rader » October 3rd, 2023, 8:10 pm

adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:What a useless fvcking war propped up the US & UK.

All that money spent for whiteness while they don't give a damm in Palestine, Haiti and Africa.


At the risk of providing unwanted factual information to the information biased, the $500,000 that the US removed from Haiti is worth about 30× that today ($15 millon).

Since the 2010 earthquake, the US has provided nearly $6 billion in humanitarian aid directly to Haiti, or 400× the value of any gold that was seized.
Nice so I steal ur gold for 107 years and then I reinvest every year and build my country with it and later I give you a pittance of the money I made from stealing you gold.

Face value is not the same as the investment value.

Carry on lil boy u have a lot to learn on making money

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » October 3rd, 2023, 8:38 pm

Back on topic:

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » October 3rd, 2023, 9:29 pm

adnj wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:Liberal logic

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Warner Von Braun was an actual member of the German National Socialist Party, held the rank of major (Sturmbannführer), was designer and project manager of the German V series rocket programs, and was
NASA engineering program manager and chief architect of the Apollo Saturn V rocket program.

Use every tool at your disposal - winner's logic.
Yes, and the waffen ss swore allegiance to Hitler and went around murdering jews personally.

Suits the Canadian government perfectly.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » October 3rd, 2023, 9:31 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:We always knew the goal is war and not peace, fighting till the last Ukrainian,,, even tho the citizens don't want to fight.



But, a new goal has been concocted... To develop Ukraine into a nato industrial complex snd be the project site for the globalists civilization fantasies.

Ukraine can't repay the debts for this military exercise, snd that was intentional.

Nato belt and road


You went Kyiv and surveyed Ukrainains?
How do you know they do not want to fight?
If they had enough volunteers they would not need to compel via legislation.
If the people thought it was worthwhile fighting, they would have volunteered.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » October 3rd, 2023, 9:37 pm

adnj wrote:The Russo-Ukrainian War: creating more high-paying technical jobs for a strong Ukrainian middle class. And putting the largest arms manufacturer in Europe on Russia's western border.

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He has no other choice. Can't repay those weapons loans so hadda offer up sumting... Except that was the play all along. That's why Hunter biden wss on Ukraine weapon board

Long game.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » October 4th, 2023, 10:33 am

sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:We always knew the goal is war and not peace, fighting till the last Ukrainian,,, even tho the citizens don't want to fight.



But, a new goal has been concocted... To develop Ukraine into a nato industrial complex snd be the project site for the globalists civilization fantasies.

Ukraine can't repay the debts for this military exercise, snd that was intentional.

Nato belt and road


You went Kyiv and surveyed Ukrainains?
How do you know they do not want to fight?
If they had enough volunteers they would not need to compel via legislation.
If the people thought it was worthwhile fighting, they would have volunteered.


They are fighting an existential war against a foe that was thought at the time to be the world's 2nd power.
You really feel an all volunteer force would be sufficient?
You think the forces raised by the Allies in WWI and WWII were all volunteer??
There will always be people of military age who will not join willing.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » October 4th, 2023, 10:34 am

^ I also now realize for you Allies probably means Nazi Germany and Japan so to be clear I meant the US, UK etc.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » October 4th, 2023, 2:38 pm

adnj wrote:Guns before butter -- because Putin only budgeted for three days to win the war.


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As defense spending in 2024 triples from pre-invasion levels, the share of spending on "national security," which covers funding for law enforcement agencies, is also rising and is set to reach 9.2% in 2024, the documents showed.

To compensate for those increases, Moscow will effectively freeze spending on education and health care. The share of spending on "national economy," encompassing roads, infrastructure and construction, will decrease to 10.6% in 2024, the lowest share since 2011.

"Social policy," traditionally the leading spending area on state salaries, pensions and benefits, will account for less spending than defense at 7.73 trillion rubles in 2024, and with its lowest share of spending since 2011 of 21.4%.

Spending on those areas will nominally rise, but below inflation, meaning real-term cuts.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/ ... g-defense/



Obviously this would happen.

Still significantly less than the overall spending total versus the US.

And how much has Ukraine allocated?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » October 4th, 2023, 4:29 pm

adnj wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:

Obviously this would happen.

Still significantly less than the overall spending total versus the US.

And how much has Ukraine allocated?


Russia seems to be spending a lot of money to decrease Europe's dependence on Russian fossil fuels. There is always a bright side to war -- if you look for it


True lol but it also pushes Russia more towards China when a Russia controlled.....err influenced by Europe would have been better, but who's to say

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby zoom rader » October 4th, 2023, 10:37 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
Dohplaydat wrote:Liberal logic

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6agjlm0lsyrb1.png


Warner Von Braun was an actual member of the German National Socialist Party, held the rank of major (Sturmbannführer), was designer and project manager of the German V series rocket programs, and was
NASA engineering program manager and chief architect of the Apollo Saturn V rocket program.

Use every tool at your disposal - winner's logic.
Yes, and the waffen ss swore allegiance to Hitler and went around murdering jews personally.

Suits the Canadian government perfectly.
Need to keep a close eye on Canada, things not looking good.

They seem to be trying to bully India and praising Nazis.

Not to mention they have become racist .

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby zoom rader » October 4th, 2023, 10:45 pm

adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:What a useless fvcking war propped up the US & UK.

All that money spent for whiteness while they don't give a damm in Palestine, Haiti and Africa.


At the risk of providing unwanted factual information to the information biased, the $500,000 that the US removed from Haiti is worth about 30× that today ($15 millon).

Since the 2010 earthquake, the US has provided nearly $6 billion in humanitarian aid directly to Haiti, or 400× the value of any gold that was seized.
Nice so I steal ur gold for 107 years and then I reinvest every year and build my country with it and later I give you a pittance of the money I made from stealing you gold.

Face value is not the same as the investment value.

Carry on lil boy u have a lot to learn on making money


You're too predicable. Invest the $500k and get $290 million. The US has donated more than 20× that since the 2010 earthquake.

Make some money - let the US take what you have.
That money does not reach Haiti as it is given to US contractors who in turn collect almost all and a pittance is used on Haiti.

The US designed it this way to keep the money in the US. On paper it looks good for them to the world, but is a scam

https://newint.org/features/2012/01/01/ ... ey-ngo-un/

Keep learning lil boy , I will teach u

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » October 5th, 2023, 1:30 pm

adnj wrote:Guns before butter -- because Putin only budgeted for three days to win the war.


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As defense spending in 2024 triples from pre-invasion levels, the share of spending on "national security," which covers funding for law enforcement agencies, is also rising and is set to reach 9.2% in 2024, the documents showed.

To compensate for those increases, Moscow will effectively freeze spending on education and health care. The share of spending on "national economy," encompassing roads, infrastructure and construction, will decrease to 10.6% in 2024, the lowest share since 2011.

"Social policy," traditionally the leading spending area on state salaries, pensions and benefits, will account for less spending than defense at 7.73 trillion rubles in 2024, and with its lowest share of spending since 2011 of 21.4%.

Spending on those areas will nominally rise, but below inflation, meaning real-term cuts.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2023/ ... g-defense/
Elenski wss ready to sign the terms in April 2022 before boris Johnson went to kiev.

We know how America like forever wars...

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » October 5th, 2023, 1:32 pm

zoom rader wrote:
adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:What a useless fvcking war propped up the US & UK.

All that money spent for whiteness while they don't give a damm in Palestine, Haiti and Africa.


At the risk of providing unwanted factual information to the information biased, the $500,000 that the US removed from Haiti is worth about 30× that today ($15 millon).

Since the 2010 earthquake, the US has provided nearly $6 billion in humanitarian aid directly to Haiti, or 400× the value of any gold that was seized.
Nice so I steal ur gold for 107 years and then I reinvest every year and build my country with it and later I give you a pittance of the money I made from stealing you gold.

Face value is not the same as the investment value.

Carry on lil boy u have a lot to learn on making money


You're too predicable. Invest the $500k and get $290 million. The US has donated more than 20× that since the 2010 earthquake.

Make some money - let the US take what you have.
That money does not reach Haiti as it is given to US contractors who in turn collect almost all and a pittance is used on Haiti.

The US designed it this way to keep the money in the US. On paper it looks good for them to the world, but is a scam

https://newint.org/features/2012/01/01/ ... ey-ngo-un/

Keep learning lil boy , I will teach u
Clinton foundation pt 2?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » October 5th, 2023, 1:41 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:^ I also now realize for you Allies probably means Nazi Germany and Japan so to be clear I meant the US, UK etc.
Yes, praising waffen ss, in parliament is a great demonstration

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby zoom rader » October 5th, 2023, 4:14 pm

adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:
adnj wrote:
zoom rader wrote:What a useless fvcking war propped up the US & UK.

All that money spent for whiteness while they don't give a damm in Palestine, Haiti and Africa.


At the risk of providing unwanted factual information to the information biased, the $500,000 that the US removed from Haiti is worth about 30× that today ($15 millon).

Since the 2010 earthquake, the US has provided nearly $6 billion in humanitarian aid directly to Haiti, or 400× the value of any gold that was seized.
Nice so I steal ur gold for 107 years and then I reinvest every year and build my country with it and later I give you a pittance of the money I made from stealing you gold.

Face value is not the same as the investment value.

Carry on lil boy u have a lot to learn on making money


You're too predicable. Invest the $500k and get $290 million. The US has donated more than 20× that since the 2010 earthquake.

Make some money - let the US take what you have.
That money does not reach Haiti as it is given to US contractors who in turn collect almost all and a pittance is used on Haiti.

The US designed it this way to keep the money in the US. On paper it looks good for them to the world, but is a scam

https://newint.org/features/2012/01/01/ ... ey-ngo-un/

Keep learning lil boy , I will teach u
What you posted is not relevant to my point. Please read it, and make sense out of it.

Try to adequately summarize it so that you can catch up with the topic of discussion.
It is very relevant as the games been played by the US to make sure certain countries stay where they are.

Banana Republics, DR and Puerto Rico are perfect examples for the Pan Regions.

Let not forget the fake wars on Iraq & Libya

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » October 12th, 2023, 10:27 am

What does mobilization have in common in Russia and Israel?
-- Long lines for flights to Tel Aviv

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » October 12th, 2023, 12:37 pm

https://youtu.be/ma9gmDw93CA?si=cm8gKNBZmbfWCk-w

Another on the ground lived experience from eu/defacto Ukrainian supporter, survival lilly

Seems like the average joe and putin both are seeing trouble
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » October 12th, 2023, 4:43 pm

Strangely, we seeing more visual coverage of this gaza offensive, than the spring offensive in Ukraine.

Is like, they prefer to talk about extensive Russian carnage than actually show the carnage.



Low key expecting some gaza footage to get stitched into Ukraine propaganda output in the near months

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » October 14th, 2023, 3:40 pm

Hmmm.
Lets see how much the American empire can stretch...
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » October 16th, 2023, 7:27 am

sMASH wrote:Hmmm.
Lets see how much the American empire can stretch...
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » October 16th, 2023, 8:59 am

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Hmmm.
Lets see how much the American empire can stretch... IMG_20231014_152342.jpg
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Russia has recently gained some ground and this war with Hamas only stands to benefit them as the world forgets Ukraine and the west divides themselves picking sides.

Hezbollah itching to get involved too and the US considering limited military action against Iran.

And Israel just blank Zelensky from visiting them.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » October 17th, 2023, 11:32 am

Massive Ukraine attack on a Berdyansk airfield destroying a number of Russkie air assets
Aftermath shows the debris for ATACMS.

All the Putin fan boys will be in for some weeks of extreme cope

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » October 18th, 2023, 1:16 pm

Dont worry, America have ur back
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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sMASH wrote:Dont worry, America have ur back
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