COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[Dohplaydat]

It matters because you are advising that perfectly healthy people take an emergency use vaccine that they may more than likely survive on their own with their natural immunity.If any complications develop from the use of these "vaccines " short, medium or long term they have no recourse due to the waiver they signed. It is sad the world is not like how it was before but you have to understand that normal is no more.Come to terms with reality, this is the new normal and similar to that of the virus we must learn to adapt to survive, if it means changing our business practices and methods of conducting transactions.

You said millions died while that is true , there are a greater number of millions that survived probably double or even triple that number.... we have to continue our protocols mask wearing, sanitizing and distancing, it is the only way a vaccine is not a cure as seen by vaccinated persons can contract the virus so you say vaccination will get us out of this pandemic . Question, what happens when the virus learns to overcome these vaccines and we back to square one, when alpha variant first came on the scene it was said children were not really affected , now we have delta which is affecting them ..so what happens when vaccinated are affected...what then?

Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects

Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.

Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.

So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.

Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.

Why does it matter that millions survived? If the mortality rate was 50% would you still say well millions surviving? Stop looking at numbers in isolation and look at the big picture. Businesses and freedoms have stopped due to this virus, does that not upset you and make you think, well sheit covid is a problem.

Viruses don't 'learn', that's not how they work. They work by random mutation is happens far more in an unvaccinated population. By reducing spread and cases we reduce variants.

Saying the unvaccinated are a risk to everyone isn't hyperbole, it's a fact because if you all don't adhere to restrictions when we inevitably open back up, then the possiblity of vaccine beating variants arising increases, sending us back to 2020.

We honestly don't know if covid-19 will evolve into something harmless or something worse, by all accounts though, not a single variant has had a lower mortality rate so the answer seems to be no, it won't get better.

And reinfections from variants have been happening quite frequently as natural immunity does not hold up as well as vacine induced immunity.

complications from the vaccine are like 0.0001% but complications from covid, even asymptomatic are magnitudes higher, also with no recourse.

So your internal risk assessment decided that covid was less risky? How did you decide this? By going on 'feelings' rather than logic and evidence?

[adnj]

Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects

Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.

Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.

So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.

Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.

they all complain and make excuses... yet provide no solutions. typical lazy keyboard-failures who probably cover their laptop cameras because they 'know better' while using their phones freely

That is called "playing the victim." It is a common tactic used to rationalize choices and obfuscate.

The objective is not to be correct. The object is to convince you that you are not.

The counter technique is to continue stating facts, again and again.

[hover11]

Yes you are are saying 0.001 percent but how would you feel getting blood clots or dealing with guillain Barre syndrome and you have no recourse....again stating a miniscule probability does not eliminate the possibility, also you cannot speak on long term effects on vaccines as the vaccine has not been out for so long

It matters because you are advising that perfectly healthy people take an emergency use vaccine that they may more than likely survive on their own with their natural immunity.If any complications develop from the use of these "vaccines " short, medium or long term they have no recourse due to the waiver they signed. It is sad the world is not like how it was before but you have to understand that normal is no more.Come to terms with reality, this is the new normal and similar to that of the virus we must learn to adapt to survive, if it means changing our business practices and methods of conducting transactions.

You said millions died while that is true , there are a greater number of millions that survived probably double or even triple that number.... we have to continue our protocols mask wearing, sanitizing and distancing, it is the only way a vaccine is not a cure as seen by vaccinated persons can contract the virus so you say vaccination will get us out of this pandemic . Question, what happens when the virus learns to overcome these vaccines and we back to square one, when alpha variant first came on the scene it was said children were not really affected , now we have delta which is affecting them ..so what happens when vaccinated are affected...what then?

Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects

Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.

Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.

So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.

Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.

Why does it matter that millions survived? If the mortality rate was 50% would you still say well millions surviving? Stop looking at numbers in isolation and look at the big picture. Businesses and freedoms have stopped due to this virus, does that not upset you and make you think, well sheit covid is a problem.

Viruses don't 'learn', that's not how they work. They work by random mutation is happens far more in an unvaccinated population. By reducing spread and cases we reduce variants.

Saying the unvaccinated are a risk to everyone isn't hyperbole, it's a fact because if you all don't adhere to restrictions when we inevitably open back up, then the possiblity of vaccine beating variants arising increases, sending us back to 2020.

We honestly don't know if covid-19 will evolve into something harmless or something worse, by all accounts though, not a single variant has had a lower mortality rate so the answer seems to be no, it won't get better.

And reinfections from variants have been happening quite frequently as natural immunity does not hold up as well as vacine induced immunity.

complications from the vaccine are like 0.0001% but complications from covid, even asymptomatic are magnitudes higher, also with no recourse.

So your internal risk assessment decided that covid was less risky? How did you decide this? By going on 'feelings' rather than logic and evidence?

[hover11]

I didn't know we had psychoanalysts on tuner this is an interesting place

Alot of ppl posting here fear mongering take the vaccine or this or that will happen to you please state the facts there are persons who got covid and didn't even know they had it....far less for any long covid effects

Not many of us are fearmongering, but whether you like it or not this is a real pandemic that is killing lots of people. You keep harping on 99% survival rates etc, without looking at the rate of infection.

Covid was the number killer in T&T for weeks and continues to be in the top 5 causes of death. Due to overwhelming hospitals, lots of patients cannot get the care they need. It's not a matter of simply adding more beds or ICU units, we just do not (and no country did) have enough persons to manage this outbreak during the peaks.

So you can state asymptomatic cases, 99% survival rates and Rowley surviving till the cows come home. It does not change any of the FACTS that millions of people across the world have had their life cut short by covid-19.

Again, none of you can offer an alternative option of how we get out of this pandemic.

they all complain and make excuses... yet provide no solutions. typical lazy keyboard-failures who probably cover their laptop cameras because they 'know better' while using their phones freely

That is called "playing the victim." It is a common tactic used to rationalize choices and obfuscate.

The objective is not to be correct. The object is to convince you that you are not.

The counter technique is to continue stating facts, again and again.

[st7]

"perfectly healthy people" lol

yep, they are immune to covid and any side effects to come with it.

yawwwn, this "intellectual" person is quite exhausting running through a revolving door expecting different results but still getting nowhere

please seek psychological help. you possess characteristics of someone who needs it.

[pugboy]

one thing for sure is this pandemic has brought to fore the variety of ways persons interpret and form their reasonings

[hover11]

Can I see your MSc in psychology...would like to tell them who I got my diagnosis from ?

"perfectly healthy people" lol

yep, they are immune to covid and any side effects to come with it.

yawwwn, this "intellectual" person is quite exhausting running through a revolving door expecting different results but still getting nowhere

please seek psychological help. you possess characteristics of someone who needs it.

[st7]

im sure i am not the first one to tell you that you should seek help. anyone can spot tell-tale signs of a troubled person. i only suggest you seek help due to your on-going delusions of grandeur, and i offered no diagnosis

your denial and attempt to twist things are clear signs of toxicity as well. please seek help.

mental illness is not a joke.

[hover11]

Right so your opinion, not specialized diagnosis or referral ,was received and disregarded

im sure i am not the first one to tell you that you should seek help. anyone can spot tell-tale signs of a troubled person. i only suggest you seek help due to your on-going delusions of grandeur, and i offered no diagnosis

your denial and attempt to twist things are clear signs of toxicity as well. please seek help.

mental illness is not a joke.

[st7]

oh i know because you're a revolving door of issues, but i wont stop reminding you to seek professional help - which is productive to yourself, your loved ones, and society.

and since you're not specialized in medicine and/or vaccines etc, your opinions you try to shove down others' throats are unproductive and disregarded, yet you keep at it trying to get different results... like a revolving door.

i want to say 'you see where this is going?' but you dont see past the revolving door so....

https://tt.loopnews.com/content/list-ps ... ervices-tt

[viedcht]

Perhaps all vaccines should have the 8 weeks interval. I think there's a study where Pfizer was given out with a longer interval in the UK and the immunity is longer lasting

A 13y.o. relative contracted Covid with just first dose of Pfizer. Other two adult members of the household remained negative right thru, also with only first dose Pfizer.

[drchaos]

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine?

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?

[drchaos]

Perhaps all vaccines should have the 8 weeks interval. I think there's a study where Pfizer was given out with a longer interval in the UK and the immunity is longer lasting

A 13y.o. relative contracted Covid with just first dose of Pfizer. Other two adult members of the household remained negative right thru, also with only first dose Pfizer.

I have seen multiple situations of a covid positive person not infect an entire household who they remained in close contact with through out the course of disease and no one was vaccinated.

Once your innate immune system is functioning well, it seems to block transmission.

[st7]

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine?

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?

how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1

[adnj]

Perhaps all vaccines should have the 8 weeks interval. I think there's a study where Pfizer was given out with a longer interval in the UK and the immunity is longer lasting

A 13y.o. relative contracted Covid with just first dose of Pfizer. Other two adult members of the household remained negative right thru, also with only first dose Pfizer.

I have seen multiple situations of a covid positive person not infect an entire household who they remained in close contact with through out the course of disease and no one was vaccinated.

Once your innate immune system is functioning well, it seems to block transmission.

.....

[st7]

Perhaps all vaccines should have the 8 weeks interval. I think there's a study where Pfizer was given out with a longer interval in the UK and the immunity is longer lasting

A 13y.o. relative contracted Covid with just first dose of Pfizer. Other two adult members of the household remained negative right thru, also with only first dose Pfizer.

I have seen multiple situations of a covid positive person not infect an entire household who they remained in close contact with through out the course of disease and no one was vaccinated.

Once your innate immune system is functioning well, it seems to block transmission.

i'm curious about this -- but when you say in close contact, was the infected person designated mostly to one part of the household and certain safeguards were taken such as designated wares, constant sanitizing etc?

[st7]

Perhaps all vaccines should have the 8 weeks interval. I think there's a study where Pfizer was given out with a longer interval in the UK and the immunity is longer lasting

A 13y.o. relative contracted Covid with just first dose of Pfizer. Other two adult members of the household remained negative right thru, also with only first dose Pfizer.

I have seen multiple situations of a covid positive person not infect an entire household who they remained in close contact with through out the course of disease and no one was vaccinated.

Once your innate immune system is functioning well, it seems to block transmission.

.....

[drchaos]

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine?

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?

how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1

Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."

[st7]

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine?

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?

how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1

Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."

umm ok? i just being straight since i dont know the chances of getting ED because i didnt look into it much.. but you can get it based on the website links i posted as a reference.

you could have become professor chaos

[adnj]

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine?

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?

how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1

Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."

Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.

[hover11]

Third case of delta

[drchaos]

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine?

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?

how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1

Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."

Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.

You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.

[st7]

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine?

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?

how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1

Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."

Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.

You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.

i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?

if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.

[drchaos]

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine?

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?

how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1

Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."

Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.

You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.

i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?

if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.

Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.

The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.

[st7]

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine?

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?

how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1

Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."

Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.

You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.

i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?

if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.

Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.

The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.

thanks for the advice. i'll look into what you've said.

hold de promotion dey lol:

[drchaos]

[abducted]

who here doing fear-mongering to take the vaccine?

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?

how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1

Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."

Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.

You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.

i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?

if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.

Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.

The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.

Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience

[adnj]

Have you read the posts here?

Man telling people they gonna get erectile dysfunction post covid using a study that was based on self reporting and an extremely low sample sizes.

And you asking who here fear mongering?

how is that fear-mongering if it's true? i cant say what the chances are of getting it but ED is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid infection.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2 ... e-studies/

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2021051 ... mpotence#1

Your logic is the same as the Anti-Vaxxers ... Cringe worthy

You could die from taking the Covid 19 Vaccine
" i cant say what the chances are of it happening but death is just ONE OF the things that can happen to you post-covid vaccination."

Doctor. The problem isn't lack of infection while in close proximity. Of course that happens. It has been documented - often.

Vaccines teach your immune system to look for particular viruses. You need to become infected to become immune. The two events are mutually exclusive.

You are speaking about your adaptive system exclusively and ignoring the fact that you have an innate immune system.

There are even parts of your innate immune system that can retain memory of pathogens. Recent studies have shown Natural Killer cells can remember pathogens.
This is one of the reasons someone can be un-vaccinated and not get "infected" after being highly exposed.

i understand that the immune system is capable of doing the things you've described, but how do i determine (for myself at least) that my immune system can handle covid-19 or not? how can i determine i wont left wrecked and/or dead? how can i determine if i would or would not be able to infect others in close proximity?

if there's a way or method, i would be interested to find out. suffice to say, i took my first vaccine dose because of those unanswered questions.

Your concerns are legit, the average citizen is not armed with the tools to understand these parameters. In the absence of this info taking a vaccine is not a bad way to achieve protection.
Blood levels of ZINC and Vit D3 ae a good place to start, a study also showed that a plant based diet similar to what the Blue Zones consume leads to major reduction in risk with Covid 19.
You diabetic status eg. checking your HBA1C, your cardiovascular health and renal status all are good predictors.

The things listed above are not just good predictors of covid 19 survival but good stats to check for your overall long term health and survival.

Now I get it, drchaos is a doctor in homeopathy and pseudoscience

It is the innate immune system that gets triggered by COVID-19 and creates the very complications that kill you. The most deadly aspect of COVID is your own immune system working against you --- very early reseach showed this.

https://www.immunology.org/coronavirus/ ... ute-severe

[aaron17]

The stick of truth?

[Mmoney607]

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Maybe unvaccinated people are smarter and therefore have more disposable income to spend on state quarantine rather than taking a free vaccine