COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[BUG]

When schools reopen next month it will be very interesting, they couldn't keep the bathrooms clean, how are they going to disinfect the whole school daily ....would love to see that

the narrative keeps changing though
the initial talk was vaccines were created bill gates to control the world via nanobots in the injection powered by 5g
why did that talk go dead now ?

now the main talk is vaxxed persons can spread just as well so vaccines are not necessary

Anti vaxxers like hover and Carbon keep shifting the goalposts:
If it didn't come too quick, it killing yuh, if it eh killing yuh, it hah long term effects
Now that their positions have been debunked, the new approach seem to be "well eef you vaccinated, why yuh beating up about me for?"

It's been 18 months and you still don't know that surface transmission is almost nonexistent and "deep cleaning" is pure theatre to make people feel safer?

[hover11]

That doesn't mean we simply disregard it please remember it has schools with only air conditioned classrooms , are we not sanitizing anymore in places like that or let the children come in the same ventilated rooms from yday

When schools reopen next month it will be very interesting, they couldn't keep the bathrooms clean, how are they going to disinfect the whole school daily ....would love to see that

the narrative keeps changing though
the initial talk was vaccines were created bill gates to control the world via nanobots in the injection powered by 5g
why did that talk go dead now ?

now the main talk is vaxxed persons can spread just as well so vaccines are not necessary

Anti vaxxers like hover and Carbon keep shifting the goalposts:
If it didn't come too quick, it killing yuh, if it eh killing yuh, it hah long term effects
Now that their positions have been debunked, the new approach seem to be "well eef you vaccinated, why yuh beating up about me for?"

It's been 18 months and you still don't know that surface transmission is almost nonexistent and "deep cleaning" is pure theatre to make people feel safer?

[st7]

That doesn't mean we simply disregard it please remember it has schools with only air conditioned classrooms , are we not sanitizing anymore in places like that or let the children come in the same ventilated rooms from yday

When schools reopen next month it will be very interesting, they couldn't keep the bathrooms clean, how are they going to disinfect the whole school daily ....would love to see that

the narrative keeps changing though
the initial talk was vaccines were created bill gates to control the world via nanobots in the injection powered by 5g
why did that talk go dead now ?

now the main talk is vaxxed persons can spread just as well so vaccines are not necessary

Anti vaxxers like hover and Carbon keep shifting the goalposts:
If it didn't come too quick, it killing yuh, if it eh killing yuh, it hah long term effects
Now that their positions have been debunked, the new approach seem to be "well eef you vaccinated, why yuh beating up about me for?"

It's been 18 months and you still don't know that surface transmission is almost nonexistent and "deep cleaning" is pure theatre to make people feel safer?

was there some announcement that classes were going to be resumed physically at schools again when the new term starts?

[hover11]

Primary school will be two days a week and secondary will be a shift will be in school every other day based on what they released

That doesn't mean we simply disregard it please remember it has schools with only air conditioned classrooms , are we not sanitizing anymore in places like that or let the children come in the same ventilated rooms from yday

When schools reopen next month it will be very interesting, they couldn't keep the bathrooms clean, how are they going to disinfect the whole school daily ....would love to see that

the narrative keeps changing though
the initial talk was vaccines were created bill gates to control the world via nanobots in the injection powered by 5g
why did that talk go dead now ?

now the main talk is vaxxed persons can spread just as well so vaccines are not necessary

Anti vaxxers like hover and Carbon keep shifting the goalposts:
If it didn't come too quick, it killing yuh, if it eh killing yuh, it hah long term effects
Now that their positions have been debunked, the new approach seem to be "well eef you vaccinated, why yuh beating up about me for?"

It's been 18 months and you still don't know that surface transmission is almost nonexistent and "deep cleaning" is pure theatre to make people feel safer?

was there some announcement that classes were going to be resumed physically at schools again when the new term starts?

[aaron17]

Compared to treatments....the vaccines are the better choice right? Or treatments work better? Need a good point to tell her. But she saying to me ..why they hiding the treatments and ppl dying.

Why can’t she use both . Tell her take the vaccine and use ivermectin too . It’s like my navara has a turbo . It can work quite well with the turbo but if you get to add a little extra umph then why not ?

She saying ivermectin is one of the safest drugs compared to the vaccine and was studied for years. What to say to that?

it could be safe but it's still not approved for treatment for covid- we don't have proper data from a large study to conclude it's effective -although smaller studies have shown some good effects. there was a shortage a few months ago. what happens if there is a shortage of ivermectin when she gets infected? especially when the delta variant comes and all the antivaxxers and vaccine hesitant rush for IVN?

the vaccines on the other hand have not only undergone large trials and proven to be effective- now half a year later hundreds of millions of ppl worldwide have taken them and it has shown real world effectiveness- and proven safe for 99.999% of ppl -it's only the 0.001% that have any serious adverse effect and any medicine will have rare adverse effects

so she should get vaccinated- right now depending on where she goes she has a choice between AZ and Sinopharm- and still take IVM if she wants. but prevention is better than cure and the vax only has to be taken twice, whereas ivm has to be taken regularly for prevention purposes

She said....Its only 6mths for testing, not even a yr.
Not every day u can take ivm. & its safe compared to chemicals used in vaccines.

[st7]

Primary school will be two days a week and secondary will be a shift will be in school every other day based on what they released

That doesn't mean we simply disregard it please remember it has schools with only air conditioned classrooms , are we not sanitizing anymore in places like that or let the children come in the same ventilated rooms from yday

When schools reopen next month it will be very interesting, they couldn't keep the bathrooms clean, how are they going to disinfect the whole school daily ....would love to see that

the narrative keeps changing though
the initial talk was vaccines were created bill gates to control the world via nanobots in the injection powered by 5g
why did that talk go dead now ?

now the main talk is vaxxed persons can spread just as well so vaccines are not necessary

Anti vaxxers like hover and Carbon keep shifting the goalposts:
If it didn't come too quick, it killing yuh, if it eh killing yuh, it hah long term effects
Now that their positions have been debunked, the new approach seem to be "well eef you vaccinated, why yuh beating up about me for?"

It's been 18 months and you still don't know that surface transmission is almost nonexistent and "deep cleaning" is pure theatre to make people feel safer?

was there some announcement that classes were going to be resumed physically at schools again when the new term starts?

haven't heard of that. i tried looking on the MOE fb page but i didnt find anything. can you source it for me?

[st7]

Compared to treatments....the vaccines are the better choice right? Or treatments work better? Need a good point to tell her. But she saying to me ..why they hiding the treatments and ppl dying.

Why can’t she use both . Tell her take the vaccine and use ivermectin too . It’s like my navara has a turbo . It can work quite well with the turbo but if you get to add a little extra umph then why not ?

She saying ivermectin is one of the safest drugs compared to the vaccine and was studied for years. What to say to that?

it could be safe but it's still not approved for treatment for covid- we don't have proper data from a large study to conclude it's effective -although smaller studies have shown some good effects. there was a shortage a few months ago. what happens if there is a shortage of ivermectin when she gets infected? especially when the delta variant comes and all the antivaxxers and vaccine hesitant rush for IVN?

the vaccines on the other hand have not only undergone large trials and proven to be effective- now half a year later hundreds of millions of ppl worldwide have taken them and it has shown real world effectiveness- and proven safe for 99.999% of ppl -it's only the 0.001% that have any serious adverse effect and any medicine will have rare adverse effects

so she should get vaccinated- right now depending on where she goes she has a choice between AZ and Sinopharm- and still take IVM if she wants. but prevention is better than cure and the vax only has to be taken twice, whereas ivm has to be taken regularly for prevention purposes

She said....Its only 6mths for testing, not even a yr.
Not every day u can take ivm. & its safe compared to chemicals used in vaccines.

man, good luck with that lol

[aaron17]

Bro i jus give up ...i have ah stand .idk what to do again nah...trust issues.who does have that situation here? Buh is best i live in a box...steups.

[hover11]

This was what TTUTA and ministry of education discussed on should release very soon. They wish to allow children from the age of 2 to wear a mask based on the CDC yet i see parents walking the streets with their children wearing no masks. This is a 54 page pdf I can't upload everything

Primary school will be two days a week and secondary will be a shift will be in school every other day based on what they released

That doesn't mean we simply disregard it please remember it has schools with only air conditioned classrooms , are we not sanitizing anymore in places like that or let the children come in the same ventilated rooms from yday

When schools reopen next month it will be very interesting, they couldn't keep the bathrooms clean, how are they going to disinfect the whole school daily ....would love to see that

the narrative keeps changing though
the initial talk was vaccines were created bill gates to control the world via nanobots in the injection powered by 5g
why did that talk go dead now ?

now the main talk is vaxxed persons can spread just as well so vaccines are not necessary

Anti vaxxers like hover and Carbon keep shifting the goalposts:
If it didn't come too quick, it killing yuh, if it eh killing yuh, it hah long term effects
Now that their positions have been debunked, the new approach seem to be "well eef you vaccinated, why yuh beating up about me for?"

It's been 18 months and you still don't know that surface transmission is almost nonexistent and "deep cleaning" is pure theatre to make people feel safer?

was there some announcement that classes were going to be resumed physically at schools again when the new term starts?

haven't heard of that. i tried looking on the MOE fb page but i didnt find anything. can you source it for me?

[aaron17]

She does visit her old folks everyday...who does not want to be vaccinated. But she claim she is wearing mask...social distancing etc. I believe her but there is always a crack in the defences where everything falls apart. I told her about it...the best thing to spread less of the virus is less visits..but she dont want to listen.
I told her my reason to not go by them because i dont want to be guilty...god forbid.

[redmanjp]

This was what TTUTA and ministry of education discussed on should release very soon. They wish to allow children from the age of 2 to wear a mask based on the CDC yet i see parents walking the streets with their children wearing no masks. This is a 54 page pdf I can't upload everything

haven't heard of that. i tried looking on the MOE fb page but i didnt find anything. can you source it for me?

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above the age of two. two or less, no. and this is a school policy- not law. so while it may become school policy for 3 years and up to wear masks in the school compound, it doesn't apply to children in the street where the law says 8 and up must wear masks.

[aaron17]

When a full.vaccinated person get covid..do they still have to be treated by a doc?

[adnj]

Primary school will be two days a week and secondary will be a shift will be in school every other day based on what they released

That doesn't mean we simply disregard it please remember it has schools with only air conditioned classrooms , are we not sanitizing anymore in places like that or let the children come in the same ventilated rooms from yday

When schools reopen next month it will be very interesting, they couldn't keep the bathrooms clean, how are they going to disinfect the whole school daily ....would love to see that

the narrative keeps changing though
the initial talk was vaccines were created bill gates to control the world via nanobots in the injection powered by 5g
why did that talk go dead now ?

now the main talk is vaxxed persons can spread just as well so vaccines are not necessary

Anti vaxxers like hover and Carbon keep shifting the goalposts:
If it didn't come too quick, it killing yuh, if it eh killing yuh, it hah long term effects
Now that their positions have been debunked, the new approach seem to be "well eef you vaccinated, why yuh beating up about me for?"

It's been 18 months and you still don't know that surface transmission is almost nonexistent and "deep cleaning" is pure theatre to make people feel safer?

was there some announcement that classes were going to be resumed physically at schools again when the new term starts?

There haven't been any announcements beyond online classes that I am aware of for Term I 2021. The only thing that MoE has mentioned recently is teacher vaccinations.

[redmanjp]

When a full.vaccinated person get covid..do they still have to be treated by a doc?

hardly likely. a panadol and some rest might be enough. the vaccine induced antibodies will do the rest. only if someone very old or have severe NCDs or immunocompromised then they may not have enough protection and can end up in hospital, but it's like 1 % of hospitalized patients are vaxxed. but i doh know the stats for the sinopharm vax.

[Country_Bookie]

Bro i jus give up ...i have ah stand .idk what to do again nah...trust issues.who does have that situation here? Buh is best i live in a box...steups.

You're in a tough spot there bro. I think the best thing u can do now is tell her it's a personal decision and it's obvious that you both have different views on the vaccine. You can't force her to take it but likewise she should not force you not to take it. If I were in your shoes I'd even consider taking it and not telling her ...... just make sure to hide your immunization card lol.

We all have persons like that in our families. My mother in law gets anxiety attacks every time we bring up the topic because her head is filled with nonsense from anti vaxxers on WhatsApp. She rather believe in them rather than the doctors in the family who have worked at mass vaccination sites and seen thousands vaccinated. Plus many other family members including her husband got the shot months ago. Some ppl are just going to remain anchored to their belief no matter how much evidence you give them that the vaccine is safe and is for their own benefit. Similar to what we see from the anti vaxxers on this same thread.

[PariaMan]

If you living with an Anti Vaxx the best thing you can do for them is get vaccinated

You will reduce the chance of you giving it to her

Also if things turn for worse at least the kids will have one parent

When a full.vaccinated person get covid..do they still have to be treated by a doc?

[aaron17]

Bro i jus give up ...i have ah stand .idk what to do again nah...trust issues.who does have that situation here? Buh is best i live in a box...steups.

You're in a tough spot there bro. I think the best thing u can do now is tell her it's a personal decision and it's obvious that you both have different views on the vaccine. You can't force her to take it but likewise she should not force you not to take it. If I were in your shoes I'd even consider taking it and not telling her ...... just make sure to hide your immunization card lol.

We all have persons like that in our families. My mother in law gets anxiety attacks every time we bring up the topic because her head is filled with nonsense from anti vaxxers on WhatsApp. She rather believe in them rather than the doctors in the family who have worked at mass vaccination sites and seen thousands vaccinated. Plus many other family members including her husband got the shot months ago. Some ppl are just going to remain anchored to their belief no matter how much evidence you give them that the vaccine is safe and is for their own benefit. Similar to what we see from the anti vaxxers on this same thread.

Noted.

[aaron17]

Bros..is this real ? Inhalable vaccine?

She rather take that...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convidecia

Apparently it went through phase 3 trials?
And can be used for emergency use?

[Kenjo]

Bros..is this real ? Inhalable vaccine?

She rather take that...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convidecia

Apparently it went through phase 3 trials?
And can be used for emergency use?

What’s her logic behind the mode or delivery though , is she just afraid of injections ? It absorbs through her mucus membranes anyway and goes into get blood

[st7]

This was what TTUTA and ministry of education discussed on should release very soon. They wish to allow children from the age of 2 to wear a mask based on the CDC yet i see parents walking the streets with their children wearing no masks. This is a 54 page pdf I can't upload everything

Primary school will be two days a week and secondary will be a shift will be in school every other day based on what they released

That doesn't mean we simply disregard it please remember it has schools with only air conditioned classrooms , are we not sanitizing anymore in places like that or let the children come in the same ventilated rooms from yday

When schools reopen next month it will be very interesting, they couldn't keep the bathrooms clean, how are they going to disinfect the whole school daily ....would love to see that

Anti vaxxers like hover and Carbon keep shifting the goalposts:
If it didn't come too quick, it killing yuh, if it eh killing yuh, it hah long term effects
Now that their positions have been debunked, the new approach seem to be "well eef you vaccinated, why yuh beating up about me for?"

It's been 18 months and you still don't know that surface transmission is almost nonexistent and "deep cleaning" is pure theatre to make people feel safer?

was there some announcement that classes were going to be resumed physically at schools again when the new term starts?

haven't heard of that. i tried looking on the MOE fb page but i didnt find anything. can you source it for me?

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breds, you said they released something (official) and what you shared are screenshots of a draft proposal...

you are keen on making statements to suit your agenda.

[bluefete]

Bros..is this real ? Inhalable vaccine?

She rather take that...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convidecia

Apparently it went through phase 3 trials?
And can be used for emergency use?

What’s her logic behind the mode or delivery though , is she just afraid of injections ? It absorbs through her mucus membranes anyway and goes into get blood

That might be the issue right there. Fear of injections so she is looking for another alternative.

[bluefete]

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[shake d livin wake d dead]

some rather interesting news on my end(scratches head). One of my friends(MD) in SGGH tested + for the virus. She is fully vaccinated with the AZ. Today is day 2 since testing, she has the cough and fever. Would update accordingly

[adnj]

Projected causes of death in Trinidad and Tobago
January 1, to December 1, 2021

Coronary Heart Disease 1,956
Covid-19 1761
Diabetes Mellitus 1,702
Stroke 1,007
Violence 529

[pugboy]

Source ?
What about flu?

Projected causes of death in Trinidad and Tobago
January 1, to December 1, 2021

Coronary Heart Disease 1,956
Covid-19 1761
Diabetes Mellitus 1,702
Stroke 1,007
Violence 529

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Projected causes of death in Trinidad and Tobago
January 1, to December 1, 2021

Coronary Heart Disease 1,956
Covid-19 1761
Diabetes Mellitus 1,702
Stroke 1,007
Violence 529

And the only one that is highly contagious there is Covid-19

[hover11]

Question when someone especially in a hospital catches the virus like his friend do they quarantine even if fully vaccinated like a 2 or 3 days nothing substantial ?

some rather interesting news on my end(scratches head). One of my friends(MD) in SGGH tested + for the virus. She is fully vaccinated with the AZ. Today is day 2 since testing, she has the cough and fever. Would update accordingly

[redmanjp]

Question when someone especially in a hospital catches the virus like his friend do they quarantine even if fully vaccinated like a 2 or 3 days nothing substantial ?

some rather interesting news on my end(scratches head). One of my friends(MD) in SGGH tested + for the virus. She is fully vaccinated with the AZ. Today is day 2 since testing, she has the cough and fever. Would update accordingly

once you covid+ yes, even if u have any flu like symptoms while vaxxed u still need to quarantine.

as for being a contact of a +ve person, the CDC says u don't have to if vaxxed, unless u develop symptoms. not sure about here, probably still have to especially since we are expecting the arrival of Mr. Delta with open arms.

[aaron17]

Bros..is this real ? Inhalable vaccine?

She rather take that...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convidecia

Apparently it went through phase 3 trials?
And can be used for emergency use?

What’s her logic behind the mode or delivery though , is she just afraid of injections ? It absorbs through her mucus membranes anyway and goes into get blood

She told me it is safer than the vaccines.

[Minion_Stuart]

Serious Ivermectin Toxicity and Human ABCB1 Nonsense Mutations

In some breeds of dogs such as collies, which are homozygotes for a nonsense mutation in ABCB1, and in Abcb1-knockout mice, ivermectin induces neurologic disorders that can be fatal.2,3 Few cases of neurologic disorders after ivermectin treatment have been reported in humans, and data are lacking on such a deleterious mutation in the human gene ABCB1.4
We report the case of a 13-year-old boy admitted to the pediatric intensive care unit for impaired consciousness. He had received a single oral dose of ivermectin (0.23 mg per kilogram of body weight) to prevent scabies infection 2 hours 30 minutes before the onset of impaired consciousness. His condition worsened 6 hours after he received ivermectin, with persistent neurologic signs, including coma, ataxia, pyramidal signs, and binocular diplopia, as well as abdominal pain and vomiting. He was monitored for 48 hours; during this period, he had a fluctuating Glasgow score and normal results on paraclinical tests. He fully recovered after 48 hours (see the Supplementary Data 1 section in the Supplementary Appendix, available with the full text of this letter at NEJM.org).

The loss of ABCB1 activity in the child would have resulted in a failure of brain protection and probably would have induced high exposure of the central nervous system to ivermectin and the toxic effects observed.We describe two human ABCB1 nonsense mutations associated with a loss of function in a patient who had an adverse reaction to ivermectin after the administration of a usual dose. The seriousness of the intoxication in the child implies that caution is warranted regarding medical prescriptions of ivermectin and other ABCB1 substrates