COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[st7]

Alright lemme paraphrase I have never willingly with sound mind and body taken a vaccine

I wouldnt know I never had reason to take a flu shot but alright

Thus in retrospect if 10 more variants emerge just saying worst case scenario.....we need 10 more boosters?

do you mean the new variant is stronger than the rest and new research shows that?

wow, u are an intellectual for pointing out they definitely flipping the script.

So what's the point of vaccine requirements or removing unvaccinated people from your security detail?

it will protect against the current strains we have e.g. gamma

vaxxed cud get delta, unvaxxed cud get any and all strains

no... we currently have a few variants, and no booster shots yet. it is up to the medical and scientific team to conduct their tests to determine the strength any future variants have and if current vaccines/boosters are more than enough.

new vaccines for the flu are developed twice a year, but u dont necessarily take the booster shots twice a year. you tend to just suffer the lesser effects of the flu, recover and survive with whatever you have been immunized with in the past.

weren't u immunized as a child? i believe it was a requirement to attend primary school

and without it, you wont be here trying to spread your fear on 2nr

as alanis morissette always says... 'and isn't it ironic'

[A172]

is only a chupidy would give a smartman $ for a vehicle & get rob

so no surprise hover is a antivaxxer

[adnj]

ppl "revax" with flu shots every year tho
dont see why this would be any diff

we has no evidence it is safe to "re-vaxx" tho. yadda hope the WHO approve an upgrade path for you or you stuck with antique vaxx.

diff virus, diff pathogenesis, and diff vaxx technologies tho

Dr. Richards was asked bout mixed doses today at the conf. She say no MoH vaxx site going to facilitate anything not WHO approved

The Sinopharm BBIBP vaccine is not new technology at all.

Some of the Chinese vaccines use the same technology that is used for many, many current vaccines.

Hepatitis, rabies, most flu, polio, cholera, plague, etc., are examples.

[DMan7]

Be careful talking back against hover, he gonna complain and get people banned.

[hover11]

Relevance to covid ?

is only a chupidy would give a smartman $ for a vehicle & get rob

so no surprise hover is a antivaxxer

[hover11]

Amazing how in the same tongue we support the Chinese when the virus was made there ...astounding

ppl "revax" with flu shots every year tho
dont see why this would be any diff

we has no evidence it is safe to "re-vaxx" tho. yadda hope the WHO approve an upgrade path for you or you stuck with antique vaxx.

diff virus, diff pathogenesis, and diff vaxx technologies tho

Dr. Richards was asked bout mixed doses today at the conf. She say no MoH vaxx site going to facilitate anything not WHO approved

The Sinopharm BBIBP vaccine is not new technology at all.

Some of the Chinese vaccines use the same technology that is used for many, many current vaccines.

Hepatitis, rabies, most flu, polio, cholera, plague, etc., are examples.

[paid_influencer]

hover11, it have no A-level or O-level requirement for tuner ole talk forum. Post away breads who doh like it could just scroll down

[hover11]

Relevance to covid? Everyone has a degree....education is not intelligence BTW anybody could regurgitate, pass an exam and get a piece of paper with their name on it

Alright lemme paraphrase I have never willingly with sound mind and body taken a vaccine

I wouldnt know I never had reason to take a flu shot but alright

Thus in retrospect if 10 more variants emerge just saying worst case scenario.....we need 10 more boosters?

So what's the point of vaccine requirements or removing unvaccinated people from your security detail?

it will protect against the current strains we have e.g. gamma

vaxxed cud get delta, unvaxxed cud get any and all strains

no... we currently have a few variants, and no booster shots yet. it is up to the medical and scientific team to conduct their tests to determine the strength any future variants have and if current vaccines/boosters are more than enough.

new vaccines for the flu are developed twice a year, but u dont necessarily take the booster shots twice a year. you tend to just suffer the lesser effects of the flu, recover and survive with whatever you have been immunized with in the past.

weren't u immunized as a child? i believe it was a requirement to attend primary school

Just curious, what were your CXC and A level results like?

[teems1]

Relevance to covid? Everyone has a degree....education is not intelligence BTW anybody could regurgitate, pass an exam and get a piece of paper with their name on it

Alright lemme paraphrase I have never willingly with sound mind and body taken a vaccine

I wouldnt know I never had reason to take a flu shot but alright

Thus in retrospect if 10 more variants emerge just saying worst case scenario.....we need 10 more boosters?

it will protect against the current strains we have e.g. gamma

vaxxed cud get delta, unvaxxed cud get any and all strains

no... we currently have a few variants, and no booster shots yet. it is up to the medical and scientific team to conduct their tests to determine the strength any future variants have and if current vaccines/boosters are more than enough.

new vaccines for the flu are developed twice a year, but u dont necessarily take the booster shots twice a year. you tend to just suffer the lesser effects of the flu, recover and survive with whatever you have been immunized with in the past.

weren't u immunized as a child? i believe it was a requirement to attend primary school

Just curious, what were your CXC and A level results like?

The scientific process is part of education.

Have a theory, conduct an experiment, observe results and draw conclusions.

Tweak theory if wrong and continue.

Anti vaxxers seem to ignore this process.

[A172]

wonder how come he didnt do this much research on the man who take he $ and tell him hymc

[pugboy]

this is the new woodford square

hover11, it have no A-level or O-level requirement for tuner ole talk forum. Post away breads who doh like it could just scroll down

[ScHoolboySoloQ]

Hover11 you have a right to deny the vaccine. If you don't want it, that is your human right. Nobody can force you to take it.

You must pick a side and as long as you are confident and satisfied with your decision, you do you. Ignore the haters.

As an anon said, this is an ole talk forum.

[hover11]

You more concerned about my money than me lol, I done make back that and more while that person will make a jail .....thanks for your concern it not needed

wonder how come he didnt do this much research on the man who take he $ and tell him hymc

[hover11]

Seems you can't have a difference in opinion....everyone believe vaccination is the way forward and no one must question it

Hover11 you have a right to deny the vaccine. If you don't want it, that is your human right. Nobody can force you to take it.

You must pick a side and as long as you are confident and satisfied with your decision, you do you. Ignore the haters.

As an anon said, this is an ole talk forum.

[A172]

nah

[rexsmith]

Are we having an all day curfew this sunday and monday for the emancipation holiday which falls on Sunday?

[Dohplaydat]

Seems you can't have a difference in opinion....everyone believe vaccination is the way forward and no one must question it

Hover11 you have a right to deny the vaccine. If you don't want it, that is your human right. Nobody can force you to take it.

You must pick a side and as long as you are confident and satisfied with your decision, you do you. Ignore the haters.

As an anon said, this is an ole talk forum.

It's fine to have opinions, but your opinion is not based on science and logic, hence why you and ojt2020 are being called out.

[Dohplaydat]

Cases gonna be slighly higher this week

[adnj]

.....

[shake d livin wake d dead]

Grande hospital was ALMOST covid free for some days...now its picking back up!

[aaron17]

Cases gonna be slighly higher this week

Counting this rainy week ....in which travelling ppl will be exposed to cars with rolled up windows?

[elec2020]

Seems you can't have a difference in opinion....everyone believe vaccination is the way forward and no one must question it

Hover11 you have a right to deny the vaccine. If you don't want it, that is your human right. Nobody can force you to take it.

You must pick a side and as long as you are confident and satisfied with your decision, you do you. Ignore the haters.

As an anon said, this is an ole talk forum.

It's fine to have opinions, but your opinion is not based on science and logic, hence why you and ojt2020 are being called out.

LOL! Please prove what i said was wrong. I still waiting on the response to the UK Yellowcard adverse reaction results I posted about a week ago. When I used ukcollumn as a source all kinda bs you guys spouting bout ukcollumn is not a good source. When I showed the source of the data was the ukgovernment and that adverse reaction results in the yellowcard scheme is underreported silence. I not studying u btw pal. You just pushing the vaccination narrative (risks be damned) because you wanna jam up on women. Talk about thusty. You not shame? You damn hypocrite.

http://trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=758236&hilit=hypocrite%5C&start=30

Why dohplaydat feels the need to have to use insults to make a point. Anyway if it was such a matter of life and death the WHO and or UN would have made it mandatory for all member states. I wonder why they haven't said anything to that nature.

Dude vaccines are like masks, they aren't just there to protect you, they're there to protect others as well.

Didn't many countries make masks mandatory...

Also, it's too soon for WHO and others to call for this, because there simply won't be enough vaccines to vaccinate everyone for some time.

However, the high risk, elderly, front line and other high exposure jobs should be first. Then every one else.

We need society back to normal bro, I f*cking hate the lack of human interaction, economic fallout, no parties and carnival lifestyle.

Maybe you want everyone to suffer like you, but some of us want to to return to normal life asap.

And for that matter, these new vaccines literally have very very low risk for long term side effects. The major sides are short term and then they're gone.

^ its also because they don't love themselves. As in they don't get joy with their own company. So with the few months lockdown and social restrictions is like they living in hell. Look 100s of people was arrested for a party in kelly village earlier this morning. 100s of people. So much nationals out there living sad lives. U telling me u that thusty to socialize again that u willing to pay a heft fine and tarnish your good name. Well whatever yes. As i said before. Time will tell who stands on the rightbside of history

Y'all introverts are funny.

Not condoning what they did, but to think my only reason I want a vaccine is to party (especiially when I was saying Carnival 2021 should be cancelled) is simply just strawman and as hominem arguements that show your intellect.

To reiterate, I said, parties, bars, restaurants, gyms, cinemas....should only allow patrons who are vaccinated. That means, I won't be seeing ppl like you, but then again, elec2020 have you ever been to a party? Got a wine? Kissed a woman? Somehow I doubt it ....and that's ok, but don't hate on those that do ok bro. And somehow I doubt you have academic publications given ev your inability to to write CXC level responses.

Now back to this vaccine. mRNA vaccines do not change your DNA. They're simply peices of the Covid-19 DNA that allows our body to produce these antibodies.

The mRNA of these vaccines are the genetic material that makes the Spike glycoprotein i.e. the protein on the surface of the coronavirus that is essential for infecting human cells. This design and manufacture of the vaccine is simplified....a game changer in vaccines.

The mRNA vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna are faster to develop as they do not require companies to produce protein or weakened pathogen for the vaccine.

Now how do you prove a vaccine is safe? Phase 2 and 3 trials. Which were done in record time because of the huge number of volunteers available.

Again, I don't see why there is so much skeptism. These vaccines aren't going to change unless Covid-19 changes.

There isn't going to be a slight tweak or improvement for at least a year or 2 and that might simply be tweaks to reduce to cost or .Ake storage cheaper. Besides any tweaks require new rounds of testing which won't get done this quickly.

So again, your skeptism is unwarranted and clearly not based in science. So say what you want, you are adopting an anti-vaxx stance.

http://trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtop ... C&start=60

[pugboy]

i drive past st clair medical at lease once a day esp morning time
their drivein testing has been empty a few weeks now
yesterday had a few cars lined up, hope it is not a trend

Grande hospital was ALMOST covid free for some days...now its picking back up!

[aaron17]

'Super antibody'

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03807-6

[Dohplaydat]

Seems you can't have a difference in opinion....everyone believe vaccination is the way forward and no one must question it

Hover11 you have a right to deny the vaccine. If you don't want it, that is your human right. Nobody can force you to take it.

You must pick a side and as long as you are confident and satisfied with your decision, you do you. Ignore the haters.

As an anon said, this is an ole talk forum.

It's fine to have opinions, but your opinion is not based on science and logic, hence why you and ojt2020 are being called out.

LOL! Please prove what i said was wrong. I still waiting on the response to the UK Yellowcard adverse reaction results I posted about a week ago. When I used ukcollumn as a source all kinda bs you guys spouting bout ukcollumn is not a good source. When I showed the source of the data was the ukgovernment and that adverse reaction results in the yellowcard scheme is underreported silence. I not studying u btw pal. You just pushing the vaccination narrative (risks be damned) because you wanna jam up on women. Talk about thusty. You not shame? You damn hypocrite.

http://trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=758236&hilit=hypocrite%5C&start=30

Why dohplaydat feels the need to have to use insults to make a point. Anyway if it was such a matter of life and death the WHO and or UN would have made it mandatory for all member states. I wonder why they haven't said anything to that nature.

Dude vaccines are like masks, they aren't just there to protect you, they're there to protect others as well.

Didn't many countries make masks mandatory...

Also, it's too soon for WHO and others to call for this, because there simply won't be enough vaccines to vaccinate everyone for some time.

However, the high risk, elderly, front line and other high exposure jobs should be first. Then every one else.

We need society back to normal bro, I f*cking hate the lack of human interaction, economic fallout, no parties and carnival lifestyle.

Maybe you want everyone to suffer like you, but some of us want to to return to normal life asap.

And for that matter, these new vaccines literally have very very low risk for long term side effects. The major sides are short term and then they're gone.

^ its also because they don't love themselves. As in they don't get joy with their own company. So with the few months lockdown and social restrictions is like they living in hell. Look 100s of people was arrested for a party in kelly village earlier this morning. 100s of people. So much nationals out there living sad lives. U telling me u that thusty to socialize again that u willing to pay a heft fine and tarnish your good name. Well whatever yes. As i said before. Time will tell who stands on the rightbside of history

Y'all introverts are funny.

Not condoning what they did, but to think my only reason I want a vaccine is to party (especiially when I was saying Carnival 2021 should be cancelled) is simply just strawman and as hominem arguements that show your intellect.

To reiterate, I said, parties, bars, restaurants, gyms, cinemas....should only allow patrons who are vaccinated. That means, I won't be seeing ppl like you, but then again, elec2020 have you ever been to a party? Got a wine? Kissed a woman? Somehow I doubt it ....and that's ok, but don't hate on those that do ok bro. And somehow I doubt you have academic publications given ev your inability to to write CXC level responses.

Now back to this vaccine. mRNA vaccines do not change your DNA. They're simply peices of the Covid-19 DNA that allows our body to produce these antibodies.

The mRNA of these vaccines are the genetic material that makes the Spike glycoprotein i.e. the protein on the surface of the coronavirus that is essential for infecting human cells. This design and manufacture of the vaccine is simplified....a game changer in vaccines.

The mRNA vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna are faster to develop as they do not require companies to produce protein or weakened pathogen for the vaccine.

Now how do you prove a vaccine is safe? Phase 2 and 3 trials. Which were done in record time because of the huge number of volunteers available.

Again, I don't see why there is so much skeptism. These vaccines aren't going to change unless Covid-19 changes.

There isn't going to be a slight tweak or improvement for at least a year or 2 and that might simply be tweaks to reduce to cost or .Ake storage cheaper. Besides any tweaks require new rounds of testing which won't get done this quickly.

So again, your skeptism is unwarranted and clearly not based in science. So say what you want, you are adopting an anti-vaxx stance.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=758236&hilit=hypocrite%5C&start=60

loosen them panties please.

UK's yellow card reporting system requires people to list any adverse reactions occurring within a month of the vaccine.

Now laypeople like yourself might think they imply a causal link, however, it's just a temporal association and there is no other evidence of causality.

It's data that will need to be explored further, however, statisticians have looked at the data and see very little divergence from the regular occurrence of those adverse reactions in the general population.

It was via this method the Astrazeneca blood clot risk, despite being so rare (8 in million) was discovered, as there was a statistically small increase in the rate it was occurring in populations (young adult women).

[Dohplaydat]

i drive past st clair medical at lease once a day esp morning time
their drivein testing has been empty a few weeks now
yesterday had a few cars lined up, hope it is not a trend

Grande hospital was ALMOST covid free for some days...now its picking back up!

Testing is up, our Rnaught is above one and has been for a week at least. Watch for a rise in cases over the next week or so. And unless behavior changes (unlikely, more likely we'll get more relaxed), then we're in for cases peaking again late Aug to Sept. Might even be worse or more prolonged if it's the delta variant spreading.

[elec2020]

Seems you can't have a difference in opinion....everyone believe vaccination is the way forward and no one must question it

Hover11 you have a right to deny the vaccine. If you don't want it, that is your human right. Nobody can force you to take it.

You must pick a side and as long as you are confident and satisfied with your decision, you do you. Ignore the haters.

As an anon said, this is an ole talk forum.

It's fine to have opinions, but your opinion is not based on science and logic, hence why you and ojt2020 are being called out.

LOL! Please prove what i said was wrong. I still waiting on the response to the UK Yellowcard adverse reaction results I posted about a week ago. When I used ukcollumn as a source all kinda bs you guys spouting bout ukcollumn is not a good source. When I showed the source of the data was the ukgovernment and that adverse reaction results in the yellowcard scheme is underreported silence. I not studying u btw pal. You just pushing the vaccination narrative (risks be damned) because you wanna jam up on women. Talk about thusty. You not shame? You damn hypocrite.

http://trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=758236&hilit=hypocrite%5C&start=30

Why dohplaydat feels the need to have to use insults to make a point. Anyway if it was such a matter of life and death the WHO and or UN would have made it mandatory for all member states. I wonder why they haven't said anything to that nature.

Dude vaccines are like masks, they aren't just there to protect you, they're there to protect others as well.

Didn't many countries make masks mandatory...

Also, it's too soon for WHO and others to call for this, because there simply won't be enough vaccines to vaccinate everyone for some time.

However, the high risk, elderly, front line and other high exposure jobs should be first. Then every one else.

We need society back to normal bro, I f*cking hate the lack of human interaction, economic fallout, no parties and carnival lifestyle.

Maybe you want everyone to suffer like you, but some of us want to to return to normal life asap.

And for that matter, these new vaccines literally have very very low risk for long term side effects. The major sides are short term and then they're gone.

^ its also because they don't love themselves. As in they don't get joy with their own company. So with the few months lockdown and social restrictions is like they living in hell. Look 100s of people was arrested for a party in kelly village earlier this morning. 100s of people. So much nationals out there living sad lives. U telling me u that thusty to socialize again that u willing to pay a heft fine and tarnish your good name. Well whatever yes. As i said before. Time will tell who stands on the rightbside of history

Y'all introverts are funny.

Not condoning what they did, but to think my only reason I want a vaccine is to party (especiially when I was saying Carnival 2021 should be cancelled) is simply just strawman and as hominem arguements that show your intellect.

To reiterate, I said, parties, bars, restaurants, gyms, cinemas....should only allow patrons who are vaccinated. That means, I won't be seeing ppl like you, but then again, elec2020 have you ever been to a party? Got a wine? Kissed a woman? Somehow I doubt it ....and that's ok, but don't hate on those that do ok bro. And somehow I doubt you have academic publications given ev your inability to to write CXC level responses.

Now back to this vaccine. mRNA vaccines do not change your DNA. They're simply peices of the Covid-19 DNA that allows our body to produce these antibodies.

The mRNA of these vaccines are the genetic material that makes the Spike glycoprotein i.e. the protein on the surface of the coronavirus that is essential for infecting human cells. This design and manufacture of the vaccine is simplified....a game changer in vaccines.

The mRNA vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna are faster to develop as they do not require companies to produce protein or weakened pathogen for the vaccine.

Now how do you prove a vaccine is safe? Phase 2 and 3 trials. Which were done in record time because of the huge number of volunteers available.

Again, I don't see why there is so much skeptism. These vaccines aren't going to change unless Covid-19 changes.

There isn't going to be a slight tweak or improvement for at least a year or 2 and that might simply be tweaks to reduce to cost or .Ake storage cheaper. Besides any tweaks require new rounds of testing which won't get done this quickly.

So again, your skeptism is unwarranted and clearly not based in science. So say what you want, you are adopting an anti-vaxx stance.

http://trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtop ... C&start=60

loosen them panties please.

UK's yellow card reporting system requires people to list any adverse reactions occurring within a month of the vaccine.

Now laypeople like yourself might think they imply a causal link, however, it's just a temporal association and there is no other evidence of causality.

It's data that will need to be explored further, however, statisticians have looked at the data and see very little divergence from the regular occurrence of those adverse reactions in the general population.

It was via this method the Astrazeneca blood clot risk, despite being so rare (8 in million) was discovered, as there was a statistically small increase in the rate it was occurring in populations (young adult women).

so if you die from any event 28 days after you test positive for covid-19 its listed as a covid death but any adverse reaction within a month of the vaccine is not true. Ok. Also, maybe the fact that the yellowcard reporting system is underused may be the reason behind any lack of causality (that you claim btw) observed? LOL. Can't make this sheit up.

[pugboy]

that is not a combo with delta coming to be looking forward to as many persons are in “relaxed” mode now all over again

i know many folks have have had evening limes at home last couple weekends

[aaron17]

I remember a user said they offering free doubles after the jab...

[redmanjp]

i drive past st clair medical at lease once a day esp morning time
their drivein testing has been empty a few weeks now
yesterday had a few cars lined up, hope it is not a trend

Grande hospital was ALMOST covid free for some days...now its picking back up!

Testing is up, our Rnaught is above one and has been for a week at least. Watch for a rise in cases over the next week or so. And unless behavior changes (unlikely, more likely we'll get more relaxed), then we're in for cases peaking again late Aug to Sept. Might even be worse or more prolonged if it's the delta variant spreading.

it's a race against time between vax rates and arrival of delta, although the current gamma variant as we have seen is already a threat. we need to be doing like 15000 a day 7 days a week, keeping in mind with 2 doses that still only means about half will become fully vaxxed.