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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby RedVEVO » June 6th, 2018, 5:08 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:proton head living in ah hdc development where he does hear when he neighbor making ah bool...them so paying $200 property tax ...if any at all


$200 is much much too much .. He/she will argue .

Remember he/she does not eat breakfast :D

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby crazybalhead » June 6th, 2018, 9:57 am

ProtonPowder wrote:
crazybalhead wrote:
ProtonPowder wrote:
crazybalhead wrote:
ProtonPowder wrote:
zoom rader wrote:I read what imbert wrote, I think it was a staged PNM Public relation excersize .

But all in all its really an injun tax.

We know that no one in beetham and laventille will get taxed and in the other PNM hot spots areas.

This tax will lead to ppl not improving their homes or doing mods to it.

These valuations will be done by PNM ppl and mostly likely they will have an unspoken mandate to tax injuns higher


you going to be so surprised when you actually see who the assessors are
and the valuers
and the deputy COV
and the COV himself



Not really.


so you know that they are majority indians then?



Sigh...is Ric you talking about sir?


Yes
Are you now going to tell me that a licensed land and valuation surveyor is an uneducated fool?
Or is he a pnm hire from the slums of the beetham?



I've known him a long time. Your point as to the ethnicity and educational status of the valuers does not really have bearing on the intent and ultimate purpose of the property tax from the perspective of the political machinations within balisier house.

On the surface, it seems perfectly reasonable, but there are too many vagaries in the Minister of Finance's pronouncements thus far without enough hard facts, data or transparency.

Some in this thread seem to suffer from an intense paranoia, however, people like myself who can look beyond the ketchup and mustard politics still require answers going forward without all the fluff. A whatsapp message to Rhoda Bharath is not information. This is just ole talk between a Minister and a party supporter.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby Dizzy28 » June 6th, 2018, 10:18 am

sMASH wrote:the lil puja rooms are not a 'rentable' part of the house, or property. it cannot be used to 'generate an income' , it cannot be used as a way to 'store wealth'
the reason to have it, is more or less the same reason why public religious establishments are tax exempt.

is like, if u have a stoosh bathroom, or a simple one, u can adjust ur asking price to suit the value added. but nobody goin and say, well that is a realll nice puja room, so that means u gonna charge a high price for the property. u not going to buy the property cause it has a puja room to die for.

and, instead of installing a Jacuzzi, u decided to put a puja room...
just low.
the only reprieve is that the valuators look at the puja rooms, and say it not valid to be assessed as a separate structure.


Clearly you have never met Sat Maharaj!

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby 88sins » June 6th, 2018, 11:25 am

So, anyone know what is the official reason for the delays or refusals to initiate changes to bring about the much touted "needed local gov't reform" that would allow for regional corps to administer this property tax?

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby RedVEVO » June 6th, 2018, 11:34 am

crazybalhead wrote:
ProtonPowder wrote:
crazybalhead wrote:
ProtonPowder wrote:
crazybalhead wrote:
ProtonPowder wrote:
zoom rader wrote:I read what imbert wrote, I think it was a staged PNM Public relation excersize .

But all in all its really an injun tax.

We know that no one in beetham and laventille will get taxed and in the other PNM hot spots areas.

This tax will lead to ppl not improving their homes or doing mods to it.

These valuations will be done by PNM ppl and mostly likely they will have an unspoken mandate to tax injuns higher


you going to be so surprised when you actually see who the assessors are
and the valuers
and the deputy COV
and the COV himself



Not really.


so you know that they are majority indians then?



Sigh...is Ric you talking about sir?


Yes
Are you now going to tell me that a licensed land and valuation surveyor is an uneducated fool?
Or is he a pnm hire from the slums of the beetham?



I've known him a long time. Your point as to the ethnicity and educational status of the valuers does not really have bearing on the intent and ultimate purpose of the property tax from the perspective of the political machinations within balisier house.

On the surface, it seems perfectly reasonable, but there are too many vagaries in the Minister of Finance's pronouncements thus far without enough hard facts, data or transparency.

Some in this thread seem to suffer from an intense paranoia, however, people like myself who can look beyond the ketchup and mustard politics still require answers going forward without all the fluff. A whatsapp message to Rhoda Bharath is not information. This is just ole talk between a Minister and a party supporter.


Wait wait .. hold the Stag and hold the Hennessy .

You people listening to Rhoda Bharath ?

She is the MOST or " MOSTEST" bias person on 102.1 FM

She is "aunty" everything :roll:

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby De Dragon » June 6th, 2018, 10:26 pm

88sins wrote:So, anyone know what is the official reason for the delays or refusals to initiate changes to bring about the much touted "needed local gov't reform" that would allow for regional corps to administer this property tax?

Harder for JUHN Scarfy and Co. to steal it.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby teems1 » June 6th, 2018, 11:15 pm

Everyone is beating up about the new tax yet no one willing to address the root cause.

Inefficient and wasteful use of our tax dollars is the main cause. There is more than enough money collected via taxes to run 2 Trinidads but the money is not spent wisely.

Logic dictates to seal up a leaky bucket before utilizing it again. This governments response is to pour more water in it to offset the leaks.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby fatboy slim » June 6th, 2018, 11:19 pm

Gladiator wrote:WIN WIN WIN.....LOL




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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby 88sins » June 7th, 2018, 5:38 am

De Dragon wrote:
88sins wrote:So, anyone know what is the official reason for the delays or refusals to initiate changes to bring about the much touted "needed local gov't reform" that would allow for regional corps to administer this property tax?

Harder for JUHN Scarfy and Co. to steal it.

i said d "official reason" dan, not d obvious reason :lol:

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby RedVEVO » June 7th, 2018, 5:56 am

teems1 wrote:Everyone is beating up about the new tax yet no one willing to address the root cause.

Inefficient and wasteful use of our tax dollars is the main cause. There is more than enough money collected via taxes to run 2 Trinidads but the money is not spent wisely.

Logic dictates to seal up a leaky bucket before utilizing it again. This governments response is to pour more water in it to offset the leaks.


Yes :!: You got this SO correct :!:

Money to run 10 T&T but wanton waste in Gov't spending :D

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby ProtonPowder » June 7th, 2018, 6:51 am

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:http://newsday.co.tt/2018/06/07/pundits-talk-property-tax/

Proton head is not pleased


If the minister pandering he pandering.

Note the exemption will be given to places of public worship. Politicians' words are never to be taken at face value. Alyuh go rave and be happy over this announcement only to realise it really changes nothing. Your prayer room or external prayer structure is not public.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby nemisis » June 7th, 2018, 7:32 am

Anytime prayer room becomes exempt I not paying any taxes. I’m catholic my entire house is my prayer room. But seriously all this beat up about this tax for what? Alluh look for that when you vote in pnm and if you didn’t vote them in then Alluh still look for that because to date the opposition hasn’t organized its riot

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby SLVR1 » June 11th, 2018, 3:01 pm

Just got a call from Ministry of Finance Valuation Div. based on the Voluntary Forms submitted last year. They are coming to take external measurements only, ask some questions and take photos. They gave their badge nos. and other info. I confirmed with them that no one has to come inside the house.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby ProtonPowder » June 11th, 2018, 8:10 pm

SLVR1 wrote:Just got a call from Ministry of Finance Valuation Div. based on the Voluntary Forms submitted last year. They are coming to take external measurements only, ask some questions and take photos. They gave their badge nos. and other info. I confirmed with them that no one has to come inside the house.


Sando office?

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby randolphinshan » June 11th, 2018, 9:49 pm

The government slacking off. Why has this tax not been implemented as yet ???

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby rspann » June 11th, 2018, 10:02 pm

Tax based on what valuations? They can't charge unless they compile the database of the annual rentable values. Somehow I find it hard to believe that you don't know that.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby SLVR1 » June 11th, 2018, 10:52 pm

ProtonPowder wrote:
SLVR1 wrote:Just got a call from Ministry of Finance Valuation Div. based on the Voluntary Forms submitted last year. They are coming to take external measurements only, ask some questions and take photos. They gave their badge nos. and other info. I confirmed with them that no one has to come inside the house.


Sando office?



Can't say. I would think POS as I am in Santa Cruz. The number they called from is 612-1715. Goes to the PBX for said Ministry.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby ProtonPowder » June 11th, 2018, 11:27 pm

rspann wrote:Tax based on what valuations? They can't charge unless they compile the database of the annual rentable values. Somehow I find it hard to believe that you don't know that.

They need exactly half of the database to start

SLVR1 wrote:Can't say. I would think POS as I am in Santa Cruz. The number they called from is 612-1715. Goes to the PBX for said Ministry.

Ah, that would be the big IQOR building you can see before the lady young on the CRH

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby SLVR1 » June 12th, 2018, 8:53 am

ProtonPowder wrote:
rspann wrote:Tax based on what valuations? They can't charge unless they compile the database of the annual rentable values. Somehow I find it hard to believe that you don't know that.

They need exactly half of the database to start

SLVR1 wrote:Can't say. I would think POS as I am in Santa Cruz. The number they called from is 612-1715. Goes to the PBX for said Ministry.

Ah, that would be the big IQOR building you can see before the lady young on the CRH


Are you aware of anyone else getting similar calls? No one else in my immediate area got a call as yet.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby matr1x » June 12th, 2018, 8:56 am

Why are we sitting down and taking this??

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby 88sins » June 12th, 2018, 9:17 am

SLVR1 wrote:
ProtonPowder wrote:
rspann wrote:Tax based on what valuations? They can't charge unless they compile the database of the annual rentable values. Somehow I find it hard to believe that you don't know that.

They need exactly half of the database to start

SLVR1 wrote:Can't say. I would think POS as I am in Santa Cruz. The number they called from is 612-1715. Goes to the PBX for said Ministry.

Ah, that would be the big IQOR building you can see before the lady young on the CRH


Are you aware of anyone else getting similar calls? No one else in my immediate area got a call as yet.


probably cuz u were the only one in your area to submit a VRF

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby RedVEVO » June 12th, 2018, 10:50 am

matr1x wrote:Why are we sitting down and taking this??


The Opposition is fighting .

In 2020 if UNC's coalition returns maybe we may NEVER pay property tax again .

Or a least for another 5 years .

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby SLVR1 » June 12th, 2018, 6:00 pm

88sins wrote:
SLVR1 wrote:
ProtonPowder wrote:
rspann wrote:Tax based on what valuations? They can't charge unless they compile the database of the annual rentable values. Somehow I find it hard to believe that you don't know that.

They need exactly half of the database to start

SLVR1 wrote:Can't say. I would think POS as I am in Santa Cruz. The number they called from is 612-1715. Goes to the PBX for said Ministry.

Ah, that would be the big IQOR building you can see before the lady young on the CRH


Are you aware of anyone else getting similar calls? No one else in my immediate area got a call as yet.


probably cuz u were the only one in your area to submit a VRF


Nope, a few others did and they have not received a call.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby ProtonPowder » June 12th, 2018, 6:17 pm

SLVR1 wrote:Nope, a few others did and they have not received a call.


As of now they have a little over 100k VRFs. Those are almost all scanned and uploaded to the database by now.

So for each 'region' in TnT (goes by county) there are a few tens of thousands, save for the sparsely populated ones like Mayaro. The selection process for who gets called, for now is random as it just start. So they might do 3 on your street and none on the street next to you for a few weeks well.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby SLVR1 » June 12th, 2018, 6:48 pm

ProtonPowder wrote:
SLVR1 wrote:Nope, a few others did and they have not received a call.


As of now they have a little over 100k VRFs. Those are almost all scanned and uploaded to the database by now.

So for each 'region' in TnT (goes by county) there are a few tens of thousands, save for the sparsely populated ones like Mayaro. The selection process for who gets called, for now is random as it just start. So they might do 3 on your street and none on the street next to you for a few weeks well.


Ok thanks.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby matr1x » June 14th, 2018, 12:27 am

RedVEVO wrote:
matr1x wrote:Why are we sitting down and taking this??


The Opposition is fighting .

In 2020 if UNC's coalition returns maybe we may NEVER pay property tax again .

Or a least for another 5 years .


What kind of fighting? Lumbering over to their bench does not count

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby ProtonPowder » June 14th, 2018, 7:15 am

matr1x wrote:What kind of fighting? Lumbering over to their bench does not count


The lawyers who fighting Devant case smiling though, them getting the sweetest billable hours

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby SLVR1 » June 14th, 2018, 11:16 am

Well, the officers came and took the measurements and sketch of the building. Also, some basic questions e.g. age of the house, building materials used, finishes e.g. gypsum, ceramic tile etc., no. of rooms etc. and some exterior photos .Took about 15-20 mins. This info. goes to BIR to do the financial aspect which will be mailed out with the payment options. This is what I was told. No questions were asked about security systems etc.

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Re: Property Tax in Trinidad & Tobago

Postby RedVEVO » June 14th, 2018, 11:27 am

ProtonPowder wrote:
matr1x wrote:What kind of fighting? Lumbering over to their bench does not count


The lawyers who fighting Devant case smiling though, them getting the sweetest billable hours


You are so naive about these people :D

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