COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[elec2020]

Dr.Fraud Chi changing his narrative all the time , how many ppl died because of this man's indecisiveness but we just supposed to believe him now

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I disagree. He's getting bashed because he's suggesting that medical professionals who have dedicated their lives to understanding this subject are hiding information for unstated purposes.

It's akin to someone with no experience in building suggesting civil engineers are purposefully building bridges that are designed to fail.

I ask you, would you be encouraging someone ignorant in engineering to say these things because someone who doesn't understand the subject matter, as you say, "see holes in it".

do u blame him? Governments over the pandemic have shown to be dishonest. Scientists have also shown to be unethical (Fauci and Vallance). So who do u trust when whenever you read the information thats out there and you watch the numbers the narrative starts to fall apart. For instance, in the US they claim that 91 per cent of the new cases in Florida are unvaccinated. But in the UK its 40 per cent (oh wait sorry 60 per cent as Vallance claimed that he made a mistake with the numbers). Also, if someone dies but tested positive for covid (sometimes within the last 30 days) its registered as a covid death. But if they got the vaccine and died some time after there is no relation to the two. Also, the side effects of the vaccine are so rare but somehow still significant enough to stop issuing to kids (I think it was Pfizer in this instance). Also, since when is it good to mix vaccines? Also, in the UK there has been 1,059,307 adverse reactions to the vaccine and possible 1,470 fatalities but no real news media has reported on it (https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports) thus far. There is so much that does not make sense. If you for vaccination then good on you. I not stopping no one to vaccinate. Just that just how you have a right to take it we have a right to question it.

Up to now they cannot do a serious investigation on the Wuhan Lab and Fauchi's possible role in it by accommodating gain of function research.

[elec2020]

One of my heroes, Astrobiologist Carl Sagan, quoted the following almost 30 years ago:

"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time -- when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...

The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30 second sound bites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance".

Elec, stop celebrating the ignorance of hover.

I am not pushing nor celebrating ignorance. Since when is questioning things that not making complete sense frowned upon? So its ok to question politicians, statistics about the economy, China's role in the Caribbean, migrant labour, etc. but when it reaches vaccination for covid-19 thats when we need to draw the line?

[hover11]

How many different vaccines are there for mumps, measles , whooping cough, polio vs how many vaccines are there for covid this is not about saving lives this is about profits and was fast tracked for that, make a quick vaccine with no liability equals sure profits

[aaron17]

'Only the dead have seen the end of war'( black hawk down)...

Oops wrong ched.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

San Fernando General Hospital consultant Dhiyaan Mahabir dies from covid19

COVID19 has claimed the life of one of the front-line doctors dealing with the pandemic, Consultant Dr Dhiyaan Mahabir.

Mahabir, 56, a consultant at the Accident and Emergency Department (A&E) at the San Fernando General Hospital (SFGH), died around 1.55 am on July 20, his colleagues confirmed.

They said he had not been vaccinated against the virus, but could not confirm whether it was by choice. He also had comorbidities.

Reports said Mahabir who had a well-established private practice in Debe, where he lived, was admitted to the SFGH approximately three weeks ago.

Colleagues who expressed sorrow at his death said the doctor, who lived alone and was unmarried, first went missing from work for a few days. Friends who went to his home found him ailing and brought him to the A&E, where he was a consultant.

He was admitted to the High Dependency Unit, where he died.

The emergency department, in a statement on social media, said it mourns the loss of a friend, colleague and teacher.

“A well-read intellect, mentor and academic has died. You will be missed by the emergency department,” the message said.

In May, two other doctors died from covid19 Dr Shival Sieunarine, 33, died at the A&E Department of the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex, Mt Hope .

Well-known Rio Claro physician Dr Maniram Rampaul, who often treated his patients without charging a fee, owing to the level of poverty in his community, also died from the virus.

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/07/20/sfgh-c ... m-covid19/

[paid_influencer]

San Fernando General Hospital consultant Dhiyaan Mahabir dies from covid19

COVID19 has claimed the life of one of the front-line doctors dealing with the pandemic, Consultant Dr Dhiyaan Mahabir.

Mahabir, 56, a consultant at the Accident and Emergency Department (A&E) at the San Fernando General Hospital (SFGH), died around 1.55 am on July 20, his colleagues confirmed.

They said he had not been vaccinated against the virus, but could not confirm whether it was by choice. He also had comorbidities.

Reports said Mahabir who had a well-established private practice in Debe, where he lived, was admitted to the SFGH approximately three weeks ago.

Colleagues who expressed sorrow at his death said the doctor, who lived alone and was unmarried, first went missing from work for a few days. Friends who went to his home found him ailing and brought him to the A&E, where he was a consultant.

He was admitted to the High Dependency Unit, where he died.

The emergency department, in a statement on social media, said it mourns the loss of a friend, colleague and teacher.

“A well-read intellect, mentor and academic has died. You will be missed by the emergency department,” the message said.

In May, two other doctors died from covid19 Dr Shival Sieunarine, 33, died at the A&E Department of the Eric Williams Medical Sciences Complex, Mt Hope .

Well-known Rio Claro physician Dr Maniram Rampaul, who often treated his patients without charging a fee, owing to the level of poverty in his community, also died from the virus.

https://newsday.co.tt/2021/07/20/sfgh-c ... m-covid19/

why are doctors refusing the vaccine?? they so chupid one time?

[Dizzy28]

^ Irony is seeing the doctor's significant half (her description) having a recent FB post that non-vaccinated persons are not welcome in their home.

[Dohplaydat]

How many different vaccines are there for mumps, measles , whooping cough, polio vs how many vaccines are there for covid this is not about saving lives this is about profits and was fast tracked for that, make a quick vaccine with no liability equals sure profits

There are actually many different vaccines for the above.

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I disagree. He's getting bashed because he's suggesting that medical professionals who have dedicated their lives to understanding this subject are hiding information for unstated purposes.

It's akin to someone with no experience in building suggesting civil engineers are purposefully building bridges that are designed to fail.

I ask you, would you be encouraging someone ignorant in engineering to say these things because someone who doesn't understand the subject matter, as you say, "see holes in it".

do u blame him? Governments over the pandemic have shown to be dishonest. Scientists have also shown to be unethical (Fauci and Vallance). So who do u trust when whenever you read the information thats out there and you watch the numbers the narrative starts to fall apart. For instance, in the US they claim that 91 per cent of the new cases in Florida are unvaccinated. But in the UK its 40 per cent (oh wait sorry 60 per cent as Vallance claimed that he made a mistake with the numbers). Also, if someone dies but tested positive for covid (sometimes within the last 30 days) its registered as a covid death. But if they got the vaccine and died some time after there is no relation to the two. Also, the side effects of the vaccine are so rare but somehow still significant enough to stop issuing to kids (I think it was Pfizer in this instance). Also, since when is it good to mix vaccines? Also, in the UK there has been 1,059,307 adverse reactions to the vaccine and possible 1,470 fatalities but no real news media has reported on it (https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports) thus far. There is so much that does not make sense. If you for vaccination then good on you. I not stopping no one to vaccinate. Just that just how you have a right to take it we have a right to question it.[/quote

That is because certain individuals began to play politics with the pandemic. That was utter stupidity and I was calling out that BS from the left and right in the US from the start.

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I don't know why the concept of learning upon evidence is so hard for you all.

Scientists observe the evidence and draw conclusions. This virus is new, the vaccines are new, they are all doing their best to figure this thing out as we go along.

Give them credit, do you know how many lives and livelihoods the vaccines are saving?

Do not listen to politicians or policymakers as their interests aren't aligned to those of the scientists.

Tell that to the ones who died after the vaccine or suffering with Bell's Palsy, GBS, heart inflammation, etc. Also, any scientist will tell you that time is just as important as observations. For example, I think i read that the GBS showed up 4 months after taking the vaccine. As stated several times before, the long-term effects of this thing are uncertain.

[De Dragon]

Don't take any vaccine, dead, That go show dem!

[hover11]

There are only two different types of vaccines for mumps, measles , polio and whooping cough....polio was a deadly thing and only two different vaccines, the Salk and Sabbin vaccines

How many different vaccines are there for mumps, measles , whooping cough, polio vs how many vaccines are there for covid this is not about saving lives this is about profits and was fast tracked for that, make a quick vaccine with no liability equals sure profits

There are actually many different vaccines for the above.

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I disagree. He's getting bashed because he's suggesting that medical professionals who have dedicated their lives to understanding this subject are hiding information for unstated purposes.

It's akin to someone with no experience in building suggesting civil engineers are purposefully building bridges that are designed to fail.

I ask you, would you be encouraging someone ignorant in engineering to say these things because someone who doesn't understand the subject matter, as you say, "see holes in it".

do u blame him? Governments over the pandemic have shown to be dishonest. Scientists have also shown to be unethical (Fauci and Vallance). So who do u trust when whenever you read the information thats out there and you watch the numbers the narrative starts to fall apart. For instance, in the US they claim that 91 per cent of the new cases in Florida are unvaccinated. But in the UK its 40 per cent (oh wait sorry 60 per cent as Vallance claimed that he made a mistake with the numbers). Also, if someone dies but tested positive for covid (sometimes within the last 30 days) its registered as a covid death. But if they got the vaccine and died some time after there is no relation to the two. Also, the side effects of the vaccine are so rare but somehow still significant enough to stop issuing to kids (I think it was Pfizer in this instance). Also, since when is it good to mix vaccines? Also, in the UK there has been 1,059,307 adverse reactions to the vaccine and possible 1,470 fatalities but no real news media has reported on it (https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports) thus far. There is so much that does not make sense. If you for vaccination then good on you. I not stopping no one to vaccinate. Just that just how you have a right to take it we have a right to question it.[/quote

That is because certain individuals began to play politics with the pandemic. That was utter stupidity and I was calling out that BS from the left and right in the US from the start.

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I don't know why the concept of learning upon evidence is so hard for you all.

Scientists observe the evidence and draw conclusions. This virus is new, the vaccines are new, they are all doing their best to figure this thing out as we go along.

Give them credit, do you know how many lives and livelihoods the vaccines are saving?

Do not listen to politicians or policymakers as their interests aren't aligned to those of the scientists.

Tell that to the ones who died after the vaccine or suffering with Bell's Palsy, GBS, heart inflammation, etc. Also, any scientist will tell you that time is just as important as observations. For example, I think i read that the GBS showed up 4 months after taking the vaccine. As stated several times before, the long-term effects of this thing are uncertain.

[hover11]

When your time up your time is up no vaccine gonna stop that

Don't take any vaccine, dead, That go show dem!

[De Dragon]

When your time up your time is up no vaccine gonna stop that

Don't take any vaccine, dead, That go show dem!

Don't take any vaccine, dead, That go show dem!

[adnj]

'Only the dead have seen the end of war'( black hawk down)...

Oops wrong ched.

George Santayana

[adnj]

How many different vaccines are there for mumps, measles , whooping cough, polio vs how many vaccines are there for covid this is not about saving lives this is about profits and was fast tracked for that, make a quick vaccine with no liability equals sure profits

Nine different influenza vaccines in the US alone.

[hover11]

Before a vaccine was available, polio caused more than 15,000 cases of paralysis a year in the U.S. It was the most feared disease of the 20th century so why were only 2 vaccines created for such....people get the flu and live with or without vaccinations, some die

How many different vaccines are there for mumps, measles , whooping cough, polio vs how many vaccines are there for covid this is not about saving lives this is about profits and was fast tracked for that, make a quick vaccine with no liability equals sure profits

Nine different influenza vaccines in the US alone.

[elec2020]

https://nypost.com/2021/07/05/michigan- ... g-vaccine/

A 13-year-old Michigan boy died in his sleep three days after receiving the coronavirus vaccine in June and the Centers for Disease Control has opened an investigation into the death, a report said on Sunday.

risks outweigh the benefits

[aaron17]

idk if this is true

[De Dragon]

Dr.Fraud Chi changing his narrative all the time , how many ppl died because of this man's indecisiveness but we just supposed to believe him now

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I disagree. He's getting bashed because he's suggesting that medical professionals who have dedicated their lives to understanding this subject are hiding information for unstated purposes.

It's akin to someone with no experience in building suggesting civil engineers are purposefully building bridges that are designed to fail.

I ask you, would you be encouraging someone ignorant in engineering to say these things because someone who doesn't understand the subject matter, as you say, "see holes in it".

do u blame him? Governments over the pandemic have shown to be dishonest. Scientists have also shown to be unethical (Fauci and Vallance). So who do u trust when whenever you read the information thats out there and you watch the numbers the narrative starts to fall apart. For instance, in the US they claim that 91 per cent of the new cases in Florida are unvaccinated. But in the UK its 40 per cent (oh wait sorry 60 per cent as Vallance claimed that he made a mistake with the numbers). Also, if someone dies but tested positive for covid (sometimes within the last 30 days) its registered as a covid death. But if they got the vaccine and died some time after there is no relation to the two. Also, the side effects of the vaccine are so rare but somehow still significant enough to stop issuing to kids (I think it was Pfizer in this instance). Also, since when is it good to mix vaccines? Also, in the UK there has been 1,059,307 adverse reactions to the vaccine and possible 1,470 fatalities but no real news media has reported on it (https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports) thus far. There is so much that does not make sense. If you for vaccination then good on you. I not stopping no one to vaccinate. Just that just how you have a right to take it we have a right to question it.

Up to now they cannot do a serious investigation on the Wuhan Lab and Fauchi's possible role in it by accommodating gain of function research.

Actually, there is a Congressional hearing on ovid-19 right now, where Rand Paul accused him of lying about the research.
Fauci did not take to the suggestion kindly. “I have not lied before the Congress,” the veteran government immunologist responded. He rejected Paul’s offer to “retract” his earlier testimony about U.S. funding of viral research into the pandemic’s shadowy beginnings.

“Sen. Paul, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly,” Fauci continued. “And I want to say that officially.”

Never one for niceties, Paul charged that Fauci was trying to “obscure responsibility” for the devastation the coronavirus has caused around the world.

From there, unsurprisingly, the tone escalated. “I totally resent the lie that you are now propagating,” Fauci snarled back at the senator.

As evidence of his allegation, Paul cited a scientific research paper into bat viruses by a Wuhan researcher. The research in question had been partially supported by the National Institutes of Health. (In addition to serving as an adviser to the White House, Fauci is head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which is part of the NIH.)



Fauci in turn told Paul, who is an ophthalmologist by training, that he had failed to understand the research, adding that it was “molecularly impossible” for the Wuhan Institute of Virology to have conducted the kind of research that would have led to the advent of SARS-CoV-2.

[paid_influencer]

vaccine confusion imo. this morning I hear on the radio an ad from the MoH saying if you get vaccinated, remember to wear mask, wash hands, and social distance.

and concurrent to that, we hearing to get vaccinated so we can have carnival.

[elec2020]

so the vaccine is essentially collecting into the ovaries (which can impact pregnancy) and the bone marrow (which could increase the occurrences of cancer). Hmmmm, if (and this is a big if) these guys are to be believed (mind you one is the inventor of mrna vaccine technology) sounds like the depopulation conspiracy theory might be true. Enjoy your benefits are greater than risks vaccines

[elec2020]

Dr.Fraud Chi changing his narrative all the time , how many ppl died because of this man's indecisiveness but we just supposed to believe him now

^ the narrative keeps on changing. Also, there was also talk recently by some scientists that no booster is needed yet. Don't worry hover11. They bashing you hard but never let that deter you from questioning things if you see holes in it.

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/scie ... theres-why

U.S. regulators, however, have pushed back on Pfizer’s claims. In a joint statement, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that Americans who have been fully vaccinated “do not need a booster shot at this time,” emphasizing that the vaccines remain highly effective against severe disease and death.

I disagree. He's getting bashed because he's suggesting that medical professionals who have dedicated their lives to understanding this subject are hiding information for unstated purposes.

It's akin to someone with no experience in building suggesting civil engineers are purposefully building bridges that are designed to fail.

I ask you, would you be encouraging someone ignorant in engineering to say these things because someone who doesn't understand the subject matter, as you say, "see holes in it".

do u blame him? Governments over the pandemic have shown to be dishonest. Scientists have also shown to be unethical (Fauci and Vallance). So who do u trust when whenever you read the information thats out there and you watch the numbers the narrative starts to fall apart. For instance, in the US they claim that 91 per cent of the new cases in Florida are unvaccinated. But in the UK its 40 per cent (oh wait sorry 60 per cent as Vallance claimed that he made a mistake with the numbers). Also, if someone dies but tested positive for covid (sometimes within the last 30 days) its registered as a covid death. But if they got the vaccine and died some time after there is no relation to the two. Also, the side effects of the vaccine are so rare but somehow still significant enough to stop issuing to kids (I think it was Pfizer in this instance). Also, since when is it good to mix vaccines? Also, in the UK there has been 1,059,307 adverse reactions to the vaccine and possible 1,470 fatalities but no real news media has reported on it (https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports) thus far. There is so much that does not make sense. If you for vaccination then good on you. I not stopping no one to vaccinate. Just that just how you have a right to take it we have a right to question it.

Up to now they cannot do a serious investigation on the Wuhan Lab and Fauchi's possible role in it by accommodating gain of function research.

Actually, there is a Congressional hearing on ovid-19 right now, where Rand Paul accused him of lying about the research.
Fauci did not take to the suggestion kindly. “I have not lied before the Congress,” the veteran government immunologist responded. He rejected Paul’s offer to “retract” his earlier testimony about U.S. funding of viral research into the pandemic’s shadowy beginnings.

“Sen. Paul, you do not know what you are talking about, quite frankly,” Fauci continued. “And I want to say that officially.”

Never one for niceties, Paul charged that Fauci was trying to “obscure responsibility” for the devastation the coronavirus has caused around the world.

From there, unsurprisingly, the tone escalated. “I totally resent the lie that you are now propagating,” Fauci snarled back at the senator.

As evidence of his allegation, Paul cited a scientific research paper into bat viruses by a Wuhan researcher. The research in question had been partially supported by the National Institutes of Health. (In addition to serving as an adviser to the White House, Fauci is head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which is part of the NIH.)



Fauci in turn told Paul, who is an ophthalmologist by training, that he had failed to understand the research, adding that it was “molecularly impossible” for the Wuhan Institute of Virology to have conducted the kind of research that would have led to the advent of SARS-CoV-2.

thanks for that information. I will try to research the discussion and/or find a link to the video hearing.

[adnj]

.....

[adnj]

Before a vaccine was available, polio caused more than 15,000 cases of paralysis a year in the U.S. It was the most feared disease of the 20th century so why were only 2 vaccines created for such....people get the flu and live with or without vaccinations, some die

How many different vaccines are there for mumps, measles , whooping cough, polio vs how many vaccines are there for covid this is not about saving lives this is about profits and was fast tracked for that, make a quick vaccine with no liability equals sure profits

Nine different influenza vaccines in the US alone.

You honestly don't realize that the flu continues to be more deadly than polio ever was? Poor misguided little man. *shedding a tear in pity*

[pugboy]

yeah but the sight of a person with polio affliction for the rest of their life will certainly change any parents mind

unlike a flu if you get thru the next week you look good

[redmanjp]

a it out of date for covid death toll which is now 4 million.

we crossing the grim milestone of 1000 deaths today i would imagine

RIP to all souls

[hover11]

I didn't think I had to explain that to BIG ppl lol ....ppl literally crippled if you lucky to survive and they saying flu worse than polio lol ok

yeah but the sight of a person with polio affliction for the rest of their life will certainly change any parents mind

unlike a flu if you get thru the next week you look good

[aaron17]

...and talk about covid lung damage and brain damage?

[De Dragon]

1000 deaths.

[redmanjp]

[Habit7]

If you want to fly out and fly back in unvaccinated, or you have peps who want to fly in unvaccinated, these are your quarentine fees.