TriniTuner.com | Latest Event:
Moderator: 3ne2nr Mods
What do you think?mero wrote:UNC supporters are free thinkers?
Kickstart wrote:Mr Panday was a crook ? so why is he out of Jail?
The fact he was in jail, at that time, makes him a crook. Thus there was a minority of UNC supporters who left the UNC. But the majority, including Kamla, stayed and supported him against COP.
Where does this leave the Landate affair ? Cleaver heights ?Guy Smiley ? AG rent scam? Darrel? Camile? Shamfa? Marleine? Emailgate?
You are just throwing out names of scandals that were investigated and cleared the subjects of them. As if that compares the Airport were monies were stolen and the foreign conspirators already were convicted, served time, apologised and paid back the money.
My guest is that PNM supporters turn a blind eye to their party misdoings and continues as if nothing has happened, Moral Standings with PNM supporters is different
The very leader of the PNM Rowley stood up against his then leader Manning on the subject of corruption and was fired. The Manning still choose him back but many of the same PNM supporters gave Kamla a chance to do better but she failed. To say that PNM supporters turn a blind eye to their party's wrongdoings is one of the many things you are wrong about both with PNM and UNC.
It is good that UNC supporters questions details of their party doings and non doings. It shows who are the free thinkers and willing for change. To me pnm supporters are still in slavery and can't think on their own or make judgements. Our educational system had failed the pnm supporter.
Good, UNC supporters are so smart and such freethinkers. That is why they overwhelmingly elect Kamla as their leader who has been leading them to victory upon victory for the last 11yrs. If only the PNM supporters could be so enlightened.
Do tell us how Mr Panday came out of Jail or how he was freed?Habit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:Mr Panday was a crook ? so why is he out of Jail?
The fact he was in jail, at that time, makes him a crook. Thus there was a minority of UNC supporters who left the UNC. But the majority, including Kamla, stayed and supported him against COP.
Where does this leave the Landate affair ? Cleaver heights ?Guy Smiley ? AG rent scam? Darrel? Camile? Shamfa? Marleine? Emailgate?
You are just throwing out names of scandals that were investigated and cleared the subjects of them. As if that compares the Airport were monies were stolen and the foreign conspirators already were convicted, served time, apologised and paid back the money.
My guest is that PNM supporters turn a blind eye to their party misdoings and continues as if nothing has happened, Moral Standings with PNM supporters is different
The very leader of the PNM Rowley stood up against his then leader Manning on the subject of corruption and was fired. The Manning still choose him back but many of the same PNM supporters gave Kamla a chance to do better but she failed. To say that PNM supporters turn a blind eye to their party's wrongdoings is one of the many things you are wrong about both with PNM and UNC.
It is good that UNC supporters questions details of their party doings and non doings. It shows who are the free thinkers and willing for change. To me pnm supporters are still in slavery and can't think on their own or make judgements. Our educational system had failed the pnm supporter.
Good, UNC supporters are so smart and such freethinkers. That is why they overwhelmingly elect Kamla as their leader who has been leading them to victory upon victory for the last 11yrs. If only the PNM supporters could be so enlightened.
wrote:
Kickstart wrote:Epic back pedalHabit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:But you stated that malls are filled as with price mart. Why change your story now?
Context.
I was responding to someone who was saying that South Trinidad economy was destroyed by the closure of the refinery. And coming out of Christmas I said the groceries and the malls were filled in South. But retail is one of the several things you can do in malls, that is declining. PNM or UNC can't change that.Kickstart wrote:I don't mind paying higher taxes if I get the services for it. I pay taxes and I don't see where the money goes. We are not getting value for our taxes paid. Nothing is accountable for our taxes, all we told is to pay more and we haven't protested yet as MP Imbert said. I think his statement is a great disrespect for tax payers and playing games.
Your little taxes are going into your subsidised utilities (water, electricity), your garbage collection, ferry transport, free healthcare, free education, free highways and many other things. If you don't see where it is going that is subjective. MoF publishes expenditure reports and the Auditor General points out the wastes and inconsistencies.
Nevertheless, you still pay one of the lowest taxes in Latin American and the Caribbean, don't expect Canada level service.
Kickstart wrote:Do tell us how Mr Panday came out of Jail or how he was freed?
Whats the latest with Marlene case?
sam1978 wrote:You seem to be in la la land too or just trying to make excuses for the govt . Some form of diversification would have been better than sitting idly by and doing nothing.
At least it would have put us in a better position in the future at a closer time. Worse than that they are inviting friends over to share in what is a quickly shrinking pantry of resources , and allowing illegals to enter at will by not properly securing the borders. Forex is at an all time low with no signs of increasing soon and when we start to bawl for shortages , the guests just have to go to somebody else house .
I not too worried because the new “hero” MONS will come to our rescue . He will do what is needed to correct the influx of venes.
Btw it’s compounded , not expounded.
Kickstart wrote:I have been reading your post for some time now and when you are challenged and can't respond your excuses is to reply with an "ok or noted" . That to me and I am sure others will see you as a coward.elec2020 wrote:^ok aggravate
sMASH wrote:u cant be doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result, except if u didnt want a different result.
red and ready!!!
De Dragon wrote:sMASH wrote:u cant be doing the same thing over and over and expect a different result, except if u didnt want a different result.
red and ready!!!
Not even ah brush self from Arse Wari
Habit7 wrote:Kickstart wrote:Do tell us how Mr Panday came out of Jail or how he was freed?
Whats the latest with Marlene case?
How about you read and understand what you are posting about, then post.
Habit7 wrote:Ppl went to COP because Panday was made out as a crook with the Airport scandal.
Habit7 wrote:Habit7 wrote:Ppl went to COP because Panday was made out as a crook with the Airport scandal.
The Airport accusations came out in 1999, Ramesh and friends left UNC in 2001 causing the election, he was sentenced in 2006 and COP contested the 2007 election while contesting his criminal court case.
What nonsense are you asking about Panday being freed when it was after all of that? Panday was seen as a crook.
Stop trying to play intelligent. You talking nonsense and when I correct you, you are saying I am backpedalling. Either you don't understand what backpedalling means or you are play too stupid to understand that you are wrong.
He avoiding answering as to why Mr Panday was freed.De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:Habit7 wrote:Ppl went to COP because Panday was made out as a crook with the Airport scandal.
The Airport accusations came out in 1999, Ramesh and friends left UNC in 2001 causing the election, he was sentenced in 2006 and COP contested the 2007 election while contesting his criminal court case.
What nonsense are you asking about Panday being freed when it was after all of that? Panday was seen as a crook.
Stop trying to play intelligent. You talking nonsense and when I correct you, you are saying I am backpedalling. Either you don't understand what backpedalling means or you are play too stupid to understand that you are wrong.
So he wasn't freed?
If as you say Mr Panday was a crook then what does that make theHabit7 wrote:Habit7 wrote:Ppl went to COP because Panday was made out as a crook with the Airport scandal.
The Airport accusations came out in 1999, Ramesh and friends left UNC in 2001 causing the election, he was sentenced in 2006 and COP contested the 2007 election while contesting his criminal court case.
What nonsense are you asking about Panday being freed when it was after all of that? Panday was seen as a crook.
Stop trying to play intelligent. You talking nonsense and when I correct you, you are saying I am backpedalling. Either you don't understand what backpedalling means or you are play too stupid to understand that you are wrong.
Kickstart wrote:He avoiding answering as to why Mr Panday was freed.De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:Habit7 wrote:Ppl went to COP because Panday was made out as a crook with the Airport scandal.
The Airport accusations came out in 1999, Ramesh and friends left UNC in 2001 causing the election, he was sentenced in 2006 and COP contested the 2007 election while contesting his criminal court case.
What nonsense are you asking about Panday being freed when it was after all of that? Panday was seen as a crook.
Stop trying to play intelligent. You talking nonsense and when I correct you, you are saying I am backpedalling. Either you don't understand what backpedalling means or you are play too stupid to understand that you are wrong.
So he wasn't freed?
Kickstart wrote:He avoiding answering as to why Mr Panday was freed.De Dragon wrote:Habit7 wrote:Habit7 wrote:Ppl went to COP because Panday was made out as a crook with the Airport scandal.
The Airport accusations came out in 1999, Ramesh and friends left UNC in 2001 causing the election, he was sentenced in 2006 and COP contested the 2007 election while contesting his criminal court case.
What nonsense are you asking about Panday being freed when it was after all of that? Panday was seen as a crook.
Stop trying to play intelligent. You talking nonsense and when I correct you, you are saying I am backpedalling. Either you don't understand what backpedalling means or you are play too stupid to understand that you are wrong.
So he wasn't freed?
Just as you showed that Mr Rowley and other PNM MPs was cleared of wrong doing why can't you also you show how Mr Panday was cleared. How hard is that?Habit7 wrote:Rowley was cleared of Landate http://triniblag.blogspot.com/2008/02/r ... eared.html
and Cleaver Heights http://jyoticommunication.blogspot.com/ ... using.html
Franklin Khan was cleared and the judge recommended charges for Kamla and Anand for trying to frame him https://www.stabroeknews.com/2010/09/27 ... gainst-ag/
idk what is the issue with Shamfa
Al Rawi cleared https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/7pmnews/int ... 3566a.html
Darryl was fired, he is not in govt
Marlene is a crook, no contest there, she is not in govt
Email gate is inconclusive https://www.looptt.com/content/emailgat ... -says-ttps
I don't know how all of that is relevant to or denies the fact that Panday was see as a crook. But I wait to see where next you will shift the goalpost.
De Dragon wrote:Dummy7 also doesn't realize that the same reason Panday was freed, was the same reason his God JUHN Scarfy avoided penalty in the Landate affair.
Kickstart wrote:Just as you showed that Mr Rowley and other PNM MPs was cleared of wrong doing why can't you also you show how Mr Panday was cleared. How hard is that?
Habit7 wrote:Rowley was cleared of Landate http://triniblag.blogspot.com/2008/02/r ... eared.html
and Cleaver Heights http://jyoticommunication.blogspot.com/ ... using.html
Franklin Khan was cleared and the judge recommended charges for Kamla and Anand for trying to frame him https://www.stabroeknews.com/2010/09/27 ... gainst-ag/
idk what is the issue with Shamfa
Al Rawi cleared https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/7pmnews/int ... 3566a.html
Darryl was fired, he is not in govt
Marlene is a crook, no contest there, she is not in govt
Email gate is inconclusive https://www.looptt.com/content/emailgat ... -says-ttps
I don't know how all of that is relevant to or denies the fact that Panday was see as a crook. But I wait to see where next you will shift the goalpost.
I am afraid that posted Habit 7 is very one-sided and appears to me as a coward and goes off on different topicstimelapse wrote:You clearly have blinders on.If Mr.Panday was cleared, but in your words, seen as a crook, what makes PNM members that were also cleared by the courts so special that they are not seen by you as crooks?
Care to explain?Habit7 wrote:Rowley was cleared of Landate http://triniblag.blogspot.com/2008/02/r ... eared.html
and Cleaver Heights http://jyoticommunication.blogspot.com/ ... using.html
Franklin Khan was cleared and the judge recommended charges for Kamla and Anand for trying to frame him https://www.stabroeknews.com/2010/09/27 ... gainst-ag/
idk what is the issue with Shamfa
Al Rawi cleared https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/7pmnews/int ... 3566a.html
Darryl was fired, he is not in govt
Marlene is a crook, no contest there, she is not in govt
Email gate is inconclusive https://www.looptt.com/content/emailgat ... -says-ttps
I don't know how all of that is relevant to or denies the fact that Panday was see as a crook. But I wait to see where next you will shift the goalpost.
You showed why Mr Rowley was cleared why can't you show why Mr Panday was cleared/freed.Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Dummy7 also doesn't realize that the same reason Panday was freed, was the same reason his God JUHN Scarfy avoided penalty in the Landate affair.
And just like your clueless friend, that point is irrelevant to the fact that COP saw Panday as a crook. I don't know why me referencing what came after, takes away from that fact.Kickstart wrote:Just as you showed that Mr Rowley and other PNM MPs was cleared of wrong doing why can't you also you show how Mr Panday was cleared. How hard is that?
Because it is irrelevant to how COP saw him in 2007.
How many times do I have to say it?
timelapse wrote:You clearly have blinders on.If Mr.Panday was cleared, but in your words, seen as a crook, what makes PNM members that were also cleared by the courts so special that they are not seen by you as crooks?
Care to explain?
Kickstart wrote:I am afraid that posted Habit 7 is very one-sided and appears to me as a coward and goes off on different topicstimelapse wrote:You clearly have blinders on.If Mr.Panday was cleared, but in your words, seen as a crook, what makes PNM members that were also cleared by the courts so special that they are not seen by you as crooks?
Care to explain?Habit7 wrote:Rowley was cleared of Landate http://triniblag.blogspot.com/2008/02/r ... eared.html
and Cleaver Heights http://jyoticommunication.blogspot.com/ ... using.html
Franklin Khan was cleared and the judge recommended charges for Kamla and Anand for trying to frame him https://www.stabroeknews.com/2010/09/27 ... gainst-ag/
idk what is the issue with Shamfa
Al Rawi cleared https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/7pmnews/int ... 3566a.html
Darryl was fired, he is not in govt
Marlene is a crook, no contest there, she is not in govt
Email gate is inconclusive https://www.looptt.com/content/emailgat ... -says-ttps
I don't know how all of that is relevant to or denies the fact that Panday was see as a crook. But I wait to see where next you will shift the goalpost.
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Dummy7 also doesn't realize that the same reason Panday was freed, was the same reason his God JUHN Scarfy avoided penalty in the Landate affair.
And just like your clueless friend, that point is irrelevant to the fact that COP saw Panday as a crook. I don't know why me referencing what came after, takes away from that fact.Kickstart wrote:Just as you showed that Mr Rowley and other PNM MPs was cleared of wrong doing why can't you also you show how Mr Panday was cleared. How hard is that?
Because it is irrelevant to how COP saw him in 2007.
How many times do I have to say it?
De Dragon wrote:Did the COP put this out as an official party position? Or like all of your "facts" originated in your rectum?
COP candidate for Tabaquite, Anand Ramlogan, gave listeners five reasons not to vote UNC A. He said the UNC A was fighting only to win Opposition (not Government), had fault-lines in its leadership council which included the vaulting ambition of his rival Ramesh Maharaj, had UNC leader Basdeo Panday under a cloud of corruption including court cases which if successful would constitutionally disqualify him from serving in Parliament, involved Mrs Panday who said she had received $1.2 million without telling her husband, and had leaders who did not hold the people’s trust. “Who in their right minds would trust Ramesh, Jack and Panday with $200 billion?” asked Ramlogan.
https://archives.newsday.co.tt/2007/11/ ... e-hurdles/
You still have not answered the question as to why Mr Panday was freed.Habit7 wrote:timelapse wrote:You clearly have blinders on.If Mr.Panday was cleared, but in your words, seen as a crook, what makes PNM members that were also cleared by the courts so special that they are not seen by you as crooks?
Care to explain?
The context was the COP's view of Panday in 2007.
But Panday's allegations is not the same as those highlighted. Panday had coconspirators locally and internationally. The international ones were tried, sentenced, served time, apologised to T&T and Al Rawi even recently got back some of the money they stole through civil action. The local ppl are using their money and political connections to stymie the trial (Section 34) and avoid extradition.
Return to “Ole talk and more Ole talk”
Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 58 guests
