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Habit7 wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:Fact is obvious to all except Habit7 that Trinidad and Tobago has done POORLY in vaccine acquisition.
Our target of 10% fully vaccinated by the end of August is quite pathetic as many in the Caribbean have already surpassed that, and by August 1st many including Jamaica and Guyana would have reached between 20-30% fully vaccinated.
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It is easy to say TT vaccine acquisition has been poor. Where you will trip up is when you try to point out alternative sources of WHO approved vaccines. Because the entire world knows that there is a shortage of vaccines.
Jamaica and T&T are in the same position as we have both received the same proportion of vaccines. This month T&T, Belize, Bahamas, Barbados and Guyana all received the same amount of Covax vaccines, Guyana got slightly more. T&T's population dwarfs those countries, Guyana is at least half. Simple maths will obviously show that they will vaccinate a larger portion of their population than us. Smaller Caribbean countries will obviously be further along because the no bigger that the population of Chaguanas.
So unless you know viable source of vaccines that T&T, Jamaica and nearly the majority of countries are not tapping into then you are just being unreasonable. It is just like saying TT is behind in getting nuclear weapons because Israel, USA, UK, Pakistan and Russia get them so easily.
Dohplaydat wrote:Habit7 wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:Fact is obvious to all except Habit7 that Trinidad and Tobago has done POORLY in vaccine acquisition.
Our target of 10% fully vaccinated by the end of August is quite pathetic as many in the Caribbean have already surpassed that, and by August 1st many including Jamaica and Guyana would have reached between 20-30% fully vaccinated.
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It is easy to say TT vaccine acquisition has been poor. Where you will trip up is when you try to point out alternative sources of WHO approved vaccines. Because the entire world knows that there is a shortage of vaccines.
Jamaica and T&T are in the same position as we have both received the same proportion of vaccines. This month T&T, Belize, Bahamas, Barbados and Guyana all received the same amount of Covax vaccines, Guyana got slightly more. T&T's population dwarfs those countries, Guyana is at least half. Simple maths will obviously show that they will vaccinate a larger portion of their population than us. Smaller Caribbean countries will obviously be further along because the no bigger that the population of Chaguanas.
So unless you know viable source of vaccines that T&T, Jamaica and nearly the majority of countries are not tapping into then you are just being unreasonable. It is just like saying TT is behind in getting nuclear weapons because Israel, USA, UK, Pakistan and Russia get them so easily.
sigh.....india bro, the one good thing UNC did recently was raise noise about that. We lucky we got 40k from them.
Also, we could have bought Pfizer according to their CEO as well.
but is every week u wrong Daran lmaoDohplaydat wrote:ron_28 wrote:573 new cases
Damn did not expect that.
Oh well, last week wasn't the peak.
Testing still at an all-time high, but I would be able to assess better tomorrow.
Average cases per day last week was 536....Next week I estimate it'll be up slightly, maybe averaging 550 per day.
Dohplaydat wrote:sigh.....india bro, the one good thing UNC did recently was raise noise about that. We lucky we got 40k from them.
Also, we could have bought Pfizer according to their CEO as well.
bluefete wrote:MaxP: Link we up, nah.
Yuh Venes GT for the vaccine.
https://www.facebook.com/inshantt/video ... 7856183480
SuperiorMan wrote:
and they laughing about it.
All this to Say that our government failHabit7 wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:sigh.....india bro, the one good thing UNC did recently was raise noise about that. We lucky we got 40k from them.
Also, we could have bought Pfizer according to their CEO as well.
From the Indian HC himself, he showed that we were knocking on their door first to buy and ask for donation. Opposition rode the issue which is good politics but it objectively clear that was being pursued even without their input.
The Pfizer CEO is talking rubbish. There have been calls from various sectors and now the US govt to release the intellectual properties rights for the vaccines. This is because of the very reason that not just T&T but many countries in the world have not received bilateral agreements for vaccines like the big rich countries. So obviously all the big pharma companies that have made billions from the vaccines opposed it. They are saying that if we allow generics it will cause a shortage of the individual ingredients. And among the excuses was Albert Bouda claiming that nobody asked them. That is a lie just to cover up their cornering of the market. Now that their chief clients are being satisfied they are trying to act as if they didn't know the rest of the world wanted vital vaccines that just happen to be few and far between.
Don't fall for the rhetoric. So again I ask you, where are we to get vaccines from that we are not trying?
This the best health care system that they highly spoke about?
A172 wrote:but is every week u wrong Daran lmaoDohplaydat wrote:ron_28 wrote:573 new cases
Damn did not expect that.
Oh well, last week wasn't the peak.
Testing still at an all-time high, but I would be able to assess better tomorrow.
Average cases per day last week was 536....Next week I estimate it'll be up slightly, maybe averaging 550 per day.
Which branch.bluefete wrote:So a VEMCO merchandiser allegedly spread Covid in JTA supermarket?
Working on confirming.
Why is no one commenting on how many people are getting Covid and some dead, from being AT WORK?
Major companies as well - ANSA McAL; Massy; Charles, VEMCO. Feel free to add to the list.
Strugglerzinc wrote:A172 wrote:but is every week u wrong Daran lmaoDohplaydat wrote:ron_28 wrote:573 new cases
Damn did not expect that.
Oh well, last week wasn't the peak.
Testing still at an all-time high, but I would be able to assess better tomorrow.
Average cases per day last week was 536....Next week I estimate it'll be up slightly, maybe averaging 550 per day.
Numbers on a Excel sheet = Tuner CMO
novastar1 wrote:adnj wrote:novastar1 wrote:adnj wrote:novastar1 wrote:adnj wrote:"The WHO, one of the leaders of COVAX, recognised vaccine doses would initially be scarce, and therefore, prepared a two-staged allocation mechanism they considered fair. In the first stage, vaccine doses are distributed equally among participating countries, while in the second stage vaccine doses will be allocated according to a country’s need."novastar1 wrote:Redress10 wrote:
Covax essentially covers countries such as India, Nigeria etc. Basically over 92 countries. Plus countries such as Canada also pulled from Covax supply and India mandated that the main supplier to Covax which is the Serum Institute keep 50% of their supply for Indian innoculation.
So granted once your country is managing "well" the suppliers would not be in a rush to get vaccines to you when other countries are in crisis with much larger populations.
So again where did you get this info?
Where did the rest of the Caribbean get their vaccines?
How did almost ever other country do better than us with procurement?
Remember this?
https://newsday.co.tt/2021/03/22/ansa-m ... go-public/
https://jme.bmj.com/content/early/2021/ ... 020-107152
I guess you didn't see my other post.....
I meant covax isn't the only source
We have only 1179 people in Trinidad fully vaccinated according to the bulletin today
Barbados has fully vaccinated 51,704 people
And they have less cash and a lower credit rating that us
Barbados and TTO both received two tranches of 33,600 doses of vaccine from COVAX within days of each other. Barbados received a donation of 100,000 doses of Ox/AZ from India in March. TTO received a donation of 100,000 doses of Sinopharm in May.
TTO has a population 4.75 times larger than Barbados.
Barbados had a confirmed infection rate was 40% higher and that peaked four months earlier than the current TTO spike.
Barbados and TTO received aporoximately the same number of vaccines but TTO received the bulk 2 months later.
Sinopharm recommends 3 weeks between doses. Ox/AZ recommends 4 to 12 weeks.
The current number of first doses is 64,639, second doses is 1,179.
Vaccines have not been in TTO long enough to satisfy the time lag necessary to give the second dose.
So are you trying to say we are doing ok to you?
Given that are are last in the region?
Nothing could have been done differently?
Every other country just sat back and "received" vaccines right?
Every other Caribbean country seemed to have exhausted all avenues to get their population vaccinated
We should just be content with our place at the bottom and count the numbers every day I guess
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... r-vaccines
You just went off on a tangent.
You keep asking. I keep answering with irrefutable fact. Now you want to segue off into opinion.
If you just want to jump out there and talk about how your pride as a citizen is diminished or how you want to vote people out of office, have at it.
Or you can just walk outside at 10 pm tonight with no mask on and find someone that gives a sh!t.
But that is exactly it
You don't give a sheit that we have no vaccines
We are among worst in the world with respect to death rates
And you act like it's covax at fault
If anyone asks any questions then time to get on like an ass and blame everyone and everything else
Every other caricom country has done better
I didn't say anything about voting people out of office.. That was you
I was speaking about accountability and responsibility
We can't hide from covid
We need to vaccinate out of this
And that is not happening
ALSO curfew starts at 9... Not 10
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Habit7 wrote:Dohplaydat wrote:sigh.....india bro, the one good thing UNC did recently was raise noise about that. We lucky we got 40k from them.
Also, we could have bought Pfizer according to their CEO as well.
From the Indian HC himself, he showed that we were knocking on their door first to buy and ask for donation. Opposition rode the issue which is good politics but it objectively clear that was being pursued even without their input.
The Pfizer CEO is talking rubbish. There have been calls from various sectors and now the US govt to release the intellectual properties rights for the vaccines. This is because of the very reason that not just T&T but many countries in the world have not received bilateral agreements for vaccines like the big rich countries. So obviously all the big pharma companies that have made billions from the vaccines opposed it. They are saying that if we allow generics it will cause a shortage of the individual ingredients. And among the excuses was Albert Bouda claiming that nobody asked them. That is a lie just to cover up their cornering of the market. Now that their chief clients are being satisfied they are trying to act as if they didn't know the rest of the world wanted vital vaccines that just happen to be few and far between.
Don't fall for the rhetoric. So again I ask you, where are we to get vaccines from that we are not trying?
ST Auto wrote:Ppl really stupid inno
bluefete wrote:Was Easter a greater super spreader than the Vigils?
Asking for Habit7?
sMASH wrote:bluefete wrote:Was Easter a greater super spreader than the Vigils?
Asking for Habit7?
50k going tobago, compared to 1k to 2k over a few nights is not the cause of spread.
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