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Are you taking the COVID-19 Vaccine?

Yes, I am already vaccinated.
81
67%
Yes, I am awaiting vaccination.
12
10%
No, I don't want it.
19
16%
I am not sure.
9
7%
 
Total votes: 121

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Postby Habit7 » June 23rd, 2021, 11:54 pm

Gladiator wrote:
Habit7 wrote:
Gladiator wrote:Typical PNM mentality... because they doing sheit it okay that we doin sheit too.... you need to evolve man!!!

Why cant you all get it through your thick skulls. No govt is doing sheit. Not TT, JM, GY, BB nobody. We are all at the mercy of vaccine suppliers.

It seems like everybody in the world knows that and are advocating for donations and releasing the intellectual property so that countries can manufacture them locally and stopping the vaccination of children so that medical workers in other countries can get a dose.

But myopic and simpleton UNC supporters here are acting like this a Deyalsingh, Rowley, Parasram and Hinds problem. You are not aware of regional, far less international news but telling me to evolve?


Did you even watch the video you posted. They are stressing on the mismagement and the long lines and how far people came from and did not get vaccines. People were blaming the "system".

The problem my unevolved comrade is not how many vaccines we have, buy, could have bought... but how the PNM Govt managed the distribution. No proper system in place, telling all people over 60 to come first come first serve when you know the number of vaccines per day to be given is less. Making people sit in the road, in the rain. The the assholery of the last name without chcking the numbers and creating more mess.

Look at the supermarket association, their execution was flawless. It just takes a little brain power. Evolution gifted some people with it.. the rest well they call themselves politicians!!!

I think you didn't watch the video. The issue is not the waiting. I can show you several videos of long lines in the US and Europe, old ppl in the rain and in the cold waiting to get vaccines and having no real issue. The issue in Jamaica is that they called ppl to get vaccines hoping that they would have received more by now. But there weren't enough vaccines so they prioritised ppl getting 2nd dose. So the ppl congregated outside disappointed because the vaccines finished. The video demonstrates the shortage of vaccines many countries facing.

You need to evolve ears and eyes to see and comprehend.

200k doses have been smoothly administered since April, one week of them doing crap doesn't take away from the big picture. Even private sector involvement is a creature of the MoH not just the private sector alone. SATT can have a fixed list of ppl that can vaccine smoothly one or two days, but you can compare that to a first come, first serve scheme that was ill advised.

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Postby 2WNBoost » June 24th, 2021, 10:08 am

CARICOM was depending on COVAX.
COVAX sent out vaccines in batches of Thirty-Three Thousand to each territory.
For each shipment, territories with smaller populations will show a higher percentage than those with larger populations.

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Postby Habit7 » June 24th, 2021, 10:24 am

2WNBoost wrote:CARICOM was depending on COVAX.
COVAX sent out vaccines in batches of Thirty-Three Thousand to each territory.
For each shipment, territories with smaller populations will show a higher percentage than those with larger populations.

Say it louder for those in the back.

Plus the donations from India. But most of the doses used up or there is heavy vaccine hesitancy so they had to give some away to Trinidad.

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Postby teems1 » June 24th, 2021, 10:35 am

The poor countries of the world including Caricom depended on COVAX.
COVAX depended on India and SII to be their main manufacturer since EU/UK and US were focusing on themselves first with minimal amounts going to COVAX.
India sheit the bed and had to keep all vaccines in India. They could not meet export demands.
Hence the poorer nations of the world turning to Russia/China to supply the vaccines.

TLDR: blame India

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Postby adnj » June 24th, 2021, 10:55 am

'The AstraZeneca vaccine continues to be one of the leading vaccines globally in terms of numbers of shots given every day. But its role — particularly as the workhorse of the COVAX vaccine-sharing program — has been compromised by supply issues.

One of the main suppliers of the AstraZeneca vaccine was supposed to be the Serum Institute of India, the world's largest vaccine manufacturer. As the COVID-19 crisis exploded in India this spring, Serum said it will not resume exports possibly until the end of the year in order to address the domestic Indian crisis.

"We have a global supply chain, and it's going very well in some parts of the world and more challenging in other parts," said Pascal Soriot, the CEO of AstraZeneca. He was speaking in May at a virtual forum hosted by Devex, a media platform for the global development community, during the ongoing World Health Assembly. Soriot said the cutoff of exports from India has had a huge impact on the availability of the AstraZeneca vaccine globally.

"We are short in supply to COVAX and the other countries," he said. "So what we're trying to do is increase supply from elsewhere. But it's very difficult because our supply chains are very stretched already."

Soriot says making vaccines is complicated and his company doesn't have the capacity to set up new manufacturing facilities right now. Even if the company did, it would take time to get those production lines up and running. "What people need is a vaccine today," Soriot said. "And that creates a lot of challenges."'

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » June 24th, 2021, 12:31 pm

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Postby zoom rader » June 24th, 2021, 12:47 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote::agrue:
That's going to be the Norm for well established counties.

Thanks to Rowlair and his misfit bunch of idiots MPs.

Trinidad take Bull

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Postby Dohplaydat » June 24th, 2021, 12:51 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote::agrue:


I would disagree with this, but i do understand the reasoning. Sinopharm recipients can definitely transmit the virus more easily than AZ or J&J. But i do think this is just temporary until more of the populace becomes vaccinated.

It's quite clear to see the world isn't returning to normal until countries reach 70-80% plus vaccination with good vaccines.

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Postby adnj » June 24th, 2021, 1:08 pm

People vaccinated outside the United States

People who were vaccinated outside the United States with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine and have received all the recommended doses do not need any additional doses. People who received the first dose of an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses do not need to restart the vaccine series in the United States but should receive the second dose as close to the recommended time as possible.

Some people may have received a COVID-19 vaccine that is not currently authorized in the United States. No data are available on the safety or efficacy of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the United States after receipt of a non-FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine. However, in some circumstances people who received a COVID-19 vaccine not currently authorized in the United States may be offered revaccination with an FDA-authorized vaccine:

COVID-19 vaccines not authorized by FDA but listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO)2

People who have received all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is listed for emergency use by WHO do not need any additional doses with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

People who have not received all the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

COVID-19 vaccines neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO

People who received all or some of the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

The minimum interval between the last dose of a non-FDA authorized vaccine or a WHO-listed vaccine and an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine is 28 days. Only people who have received all recommended doses of an FDA-authorized or WHO-listed COVID-19 vaccine are considered fully vaccinated for the purpose of public health guidance.3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... es-us.html

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Postby hover11 » June 24th, 2021, 1:18 pm

Any word on how long vaccine efficacy lasts?
adnj wrote:People vaccinated outside the United States

People who were vaccinated outside the United States with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine and have received all the recommended doses do not need any additional doses. People who received the first dose of an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses do not need to restart the vaccine series in the United States but should receive the second dose as close to the recommended time as possible.

Some people may have received a COVID-19 vaccine that is not currently authorized in the United States. No data are available on the safety or efficacy of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the United States after receipt of a non-FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine. However, in some circumstances people who received a COVID-19 vaccine not currently authorized in the United States may be offered revaccination with an FDA-authorized vaccine:

COVID-19 vaccines not authorized by FDA but listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO)2

People who have received all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is listed for emergency use by WHO do not need any additional doses with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

People who have not received all the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

COVID-19 vaccines neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO

People who received all or some of the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

The minimum interval between the last dose of a non-FDA authorized vaccine or a WHO-listed vaccine and an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine is 28 days. Only people who have received all recommended doses of an FDA-authorized or WHO-listed COVID-19 vaccine are considered fully vaccinated for the purpose of public health guidance.3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... es-us.html

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » June 25th, 2021, 9:08 pm

Cuban vaccine known as ABDALA is said to be gaining traction and has an efficacy of 92%. Aljazeera just did an entire report.

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » June 27th, 2021, 11:19 am

I could see this reaching here very fast
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Postby hover11 » June 27th, 2021, 11:28 am

Remember rowley said unless it's WHO approved it will not be requesting such....I have no problem with Cuban expertise however knowing America they will stop at nothing to delay it's approval to the very end
shake d livin wake d dead wrote:I could see this reaching here very fast

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Postby sekhar_777 » June 27th, 2021, 11:29 am

https://www.wsj.com/articles/vaccinated-people-account-for-half-of-new-covid-19-delta-cases-in-israeli-outbreak-11624624326

TEL AVIV—About half of adults infected in an outbreak of the Delta variant of Covid-19 in Israel were fully inoculated with the Pfizer Inc. vaccine, prompting the government to reimpose an indoor mask requirement and other measures to contain the highly transmissible strain...children under 16, most of whom haven’t been vaccinated, accounted for about half of those infected

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Postby paid_influencer » June 27th, 2021, 12:00 pm

if 100% of the population is vaccinated, 100% of infections will be among vaccinated persons. The absolute numbers are tiny in comparison to places without vaccines or with lower efficacy vaccines tho.

children under 16, most of whom haven’t been vaccinated, accounted for about half of those infected

this is certainly a demographic shift and more reason why I believe reopening schools in September is a p. bad idea. Sure the teachers will be protected but what happens to the children and their families? devil take them?

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Postby sekhar_777 » June 27th, 2021, 12:32 pm

paid_influencer wrote:if 100% of the population is vaccinated, 100% of infections will be among vaccinated persons. The absolute numbers are tiny in comparison to places without vaccines or with lower efficacy vaccines tho.


Yes, the hope is that vaccination in general will prevent serious symptoms/complications and death. Israel has 57% fully vaccinated.

Surprising aspect is that it is established that Pfizer: 95 percent efficacy in preventing an infection in people with no prior infections. So in a vaccinated sample, approx only 5% should get infection.

In this case, 50% of adults who were fully vaccinated contracted Covid. Delta variant is a different beast.

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Postby DMan7 » June 27th, 2021, 12:41 pm

The thing is being infected doesn't mean you will have symptoms of the virus so it's just an infection since all vaccines are known to prevent hospitalization or serious illness. Just getting infected alone isn't a serious thing since there are no illness resulting from it.

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Postby hover11 » June 27th, 2021, 12:49 pm

You realize the virus is still spreading among vaccinated....even though symptoms are not showing the virus can mutate to the point where the vaccine becomes ineffective or even worthless to stopping the virus ....give it time
DMan7 wrote:The thing is being infected doesn't mean you will have symptoms of the virus so it's just an infection since all vaccines are known to prevent hospitalization or serious illness. Just getting infected alone isn't a serious thing since there are no illness resulting from it.

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Postby paid_influencer » June 27th, 2021, 12:57 pm

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gonna drag out this infographic again, showing an outbreak in an old-age home. The absolute number of infected might be the same or higher in the vaccinated population, but that ignores the much larger size of the vaccinated population.

from that infographic, you could spin it as 50% of the infected were vaccinated and 33% of the deaths were vaccinated. That would be misleading because of the much lower attack rate and mortality rate in the vaccinated population.

edit: this is the source of the infographic, from a CDC studied outbreak in Kentucky.
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substac ... n-campaign

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Postby carluva » June 27th, 2021, 1:27 pm

Hover11,

From your question, it seems like you do not understand what efficacy is. A vaccine does not "offer" efficacy. A vaccine provides (or "offers") immunity.

From Wikipedia: "Efficacy is the ability to perform a task to a satisfactory or expected degree. The word comes from the same roots as effectiveness, and it has often been used synonymously, although in pharmacology a distinction is now often made between efficacy and effectiveness."

I'd also encourage you to have a look at this video which I posted several weeks ago on this thread.

https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A

hover11 wrote:Any word on how long vaccine efficacy lasts?
adnj wrote:People vaccinated outside the United States

People who were vaccinated outside the United States with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine and have received all the recommended doses do not need any additional doses. People who received the first dose of an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses do not need to restart the vaccine series in the United States but should receive the second dose as close to the recommended time as possible.

Some people may have received a COVID-19 vaccine that is not currently authorized in the United States. No data are available on the safety or efficacy of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the United States after receipt of a non-FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine. However, in some circumstances people who received a COVID-19 vaccine not currently authorized in the United States may be offered revaccination with an FDA-authorized vaccine:

COVID-19 vaccines not authorized by FDA but listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO)2

People who have received all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is listed for emergency use by WHO do not need any additional doses with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

People who have not received all the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

COVID-19 vaccines neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO

People who received all or some of the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

The minimum interval between the last dose of a non-FDA authorized vaccine or a WHO-listed vaccine and an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine is 28 days. Only people who have received all recommended doses of an FDA-authorized or WHO-listed COVID-19 vaccine are considered fully vaccinated for the purpose of public health guidance.3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... es-us.html

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Postby hover11 » June 27th, 2021, 1:30 pm

Ok still doesn't answer how long does immunity on these vaccines last there are so many out now ..... no one is mentioning that.We knowthat Pfizer and Mdrna is a minimum of 6 months but I more concerned with the Chinese made brands such as Sinopharm
carluva wrote:Hover11,

From your question, it seems like you do not understand what efficacy is. A vaccine does not "offer" efficacy. A vaccine provides (or "offers") immunity
From Wikipedia: "Efficacy is the ability to perform a task to a satisfactory or expected degree. The word comes from the same roots as effectiveness, and it has often been used synonymously, although in pharmacology a distinction is now often made between efficacy and effectiveness."

I'd also encourage you to have a look at this video which I posted several weeks ago on this thread.

https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A

hover11 wrote:Any word on how long vaccine efficacy lasts?
adnj wrote:People vaccinated outside the United States

People who were vaccinated outside the United States with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine and have received all the recommended doses do not need any additional doses. People who received the first dose of an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses do not need to restart the vaccine series in the United States but should receive the second dose as close to the recommended time as possible.

Some people may have received a COVID-19 vaccine that is not currently authorized in the United States. No data are available on the safety or efficacy of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the United States after receipt of a non-FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine. However, in some circumstances people who received a COVID-19 vaccine not currently authorized in the United States may be offered revaccination with an FDA-authorized vaccine:

COVID-19 vaccines not authorized by FDA but listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO)2

People who have received all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is listed for emergency use by WHO do not need any additional doses with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

People who have not received all the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

COVID-19 vaccines neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO

People who received all or some of the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

The minimum interval between the last dose of a non-FDA authorized vaccine or a WHO-listed vaccine and an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine is 28 days. Only people who have received all recommended doses of an FDA-authorized or WHO-listed COVID-19 vaccine are considered fully vaccinated for the purpose of public health guidance.3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... es-us.html

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Postby Dohplaydat » June 27th, 2021, 2:23 pm

hover11 wrote:Ok still doesn't answer how long does immunity on these vaccines last there are so many out now ..... no one is mentioning that.We knowthat Pfizer and Mdrna is a minimum of 6 months but I more concerned with the Chinese made brands such as Sinopharm
carluva wrote:Hover11,

From your question, it seems like you do not understand what efficacy is. A vaccine does not "offer" efficacy. A vaccine provides (or "offers") immunity
From Wikipedia: "Efficacy is the ability to perform a task to a satisfactory or expected degree. The word comes from the same roots as effectiveness, and it has often been used synonymously, although in pharmacology a distinction is now often made between efficacy and effectiveness."

I'd also encourage you to have a look at this video which I posted several weeks ago on this thread.

https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A

hover11 wrote:Any word on how long vaccine efficacy lasts?
adnj wrote:People vaccinated outside the United States

People who were vaccinated outside the United States with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine and have received all the recommended doses do not need any additional doses. People who received the first dose of an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses do not need to restart the vaccine series in the United States but should receive the second dose as close to the recommended time as possible.

Some people may have received a COVID-19 vaccine that is not currently authorized in the United States. No data are available on the safety or efficacy of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the United States after receipt of a non-FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine. However, in some circumstances people who received a COVID-19 vaccine not currently authorized in the United States may be offered revaccination with an FDA-authorized vaccine:

COVID-19 vaccines not authorized by FDA but listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO)2

People who have received all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is listed for emergency use by WHO do not need any additional doses with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

People who have not received all the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

COVID-19 vaccines neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO

People who received all or some of the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

The minimum interval between the last dose of a non-FDA authorized vaccine or a WHO-listed vaccine and an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine is 28 days. Only people who have received all recommended doses of an FDA-authorized or WHO-listed COVID-19 vaccine are considered fully vaccinated for the purpose of public health guidance.3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... es-us.html


Honestly we don't know yet but from all indications it seems to be at least a year, but definitely less info on Sinopharm.

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Postby st7 » June 27th, 2021, 4:14 pm

hover11 wrote:Ok still doesn't answer how long does immunity on these vaccines last there are so many out now ..... no one is mentioning that.We knowthat Pfizer and Mdrna is a minimum of 6 months but I more concerned with the Chinese made brands such as Sinopharm
carluva wrote:Hover11,

From your question, it seems like you do not understand what efficacy is. A vaccine does not "offer" efficacy. A vaccine provides (or "offers") immunity
From Wikipedia: "Efficacy is the ability to perform a task to a satisfactory or expected degree. The word comes from the same roots as effectiveness, and it has often been used synonymously, although in pharmacology a distinction is now often made between efficacy and effectiveness."

I'd also encourage you to have a look at this video which I posted several weeks ago on this thread.

https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A

hover11 wrote:Any word on how long vaccine efficacy lasts?
adnj wrote:People vaccinated outside the United States

People who were vaccinated outside the United States with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine and have received all the recommended doses do not need any additional doses. People who received the first dose of an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses do not need to restart the vaccine series in the United States but should receive the second dose as close to the recommended time as possible.

Some people may have received a COVID-19 vaccine that is not currently authorized in the United States. No data are available on the safety or efficacy of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the United States after receipt of a non-FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine. However, in some circumstances people who received a COVID-19 vaccine not currently authorized in the United States may be offered revaccination with an FDA-authorized vaccine:

COVID-19 vaccines not authorized by FDA but listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO)2

People who have received all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is listed for emergency use by WHO do not need any additional doses with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

People who have not received all the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

COVID-19 vaccines neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO

People who received all or some of the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

The minimum interval between the last dose of a non-FDA authorized vaccine or a WHO-listed vaccine and an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine is 28 days. Only people who have received all recommended doses of an FDA-authorized or WHO-listed COVID-19 vaccine are considered fully vaccinated for the purpose of public health guidance.3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... es-us.html



dude why are u so lazy? get the information yourself and stop relying on trinituner for said info. you only come here to complain about everything and dont make any meaningful contributions to this and the next ched.

this sufferer attitude dred

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Postby paid_influencer » June 27th, 2021, 5:13 pm

yea there isn't any information on the length of protection for the inactivated-virus vaccines, as far as I know. Don't mention it too much because it is genuinely a touchy subject and some may take offense and snap at you.

I would recommend against mentioning brand names unless absolutely necessary.

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Postby hover11 » June 27th, 2021, 6:40 pm

Calm down pfizer fan boy you getting all the froth on the floor, all those words and nothing of substance , I criticize because I have an opinion and this is a PUBLIC forum where I am allowed to say my part ....all those words and you have yet to answer my question
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hover11 wrote:Ok still doesn't answer how long does immunity on these vaccines last there are so many out now ..... no one is mentioning that.We knowthat Pfizer and Mdrna is a minimum of 6 months but I more concerned with the Chinese made brands such as Sinopharm
carluva wrote:Hover11,

From your question, it seems like you do not understand what efficacy is. A vaccine does not "offer" efficacy. A vaccine provides (or "offers") immunity
From Wikipedia: "Efficacy is the ability to perform a task to a satisfactory or expected degree. The word comes from the same roots as effectiveness, and it has often been used synonymously, although in pharmacology a distinction is now often made between efficacy and effectiveness."

I'd also encourage you to have a look at this video which I posted several weeks ago on this thread.

https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A

hover11 wrote:Any word on how long vaccine efficacy lasts?
adnj wrote:People vaccinated outside the United States

People who were vaccinated outside the United States with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine and have received all the recommended doses do not need any additional doses. People who received the first dose of an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses do not need to restart the vaccine series in the United States but should receive the second dose as close to the recommended time as possible.

Some people may have received a COVID-19 vaccine that is not currently authorized in the United States. No data are available on the safety or efficacy of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the United States after receipt of a non-FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine. However, in some circumstances people who received a COVID-19 vaccine not currently authorized in the United States may be offered revaccination with an FDA-authorized vaccine:

COVID-19 vaccines not authorized by FDA but listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO)2

People who have received all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is listed for emergency use by WHO do not need any additional doses with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

People who have not received all the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

COVID-19 vaccines neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO

People who received all or some of the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

The minimum interval between the last dose of a non-FDA authorized vaccine or a WHO-listed vaccine and an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine is 28 days. Only people who have received all recommended doses of an FDA-authorized or WHO-listed COVID-19 vaccine are considered fully vaccinated for the purpose of public health guidance.3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... es-us.html



dude why are u so lazy? get the information yourself and stop relying on trinituner for said info. you only come here to complain about everything and dont make any meaningful contributions to this and the next ched.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby hover11 » June 27th, 2021, 6:43 pm

So we just taking something into our bodies and we don't know how long this lasting wtf so how will you know when immunity is waning, especially for those who are immuno compromised
hover11 wrote:Calm down pfizer fan boy you getting all the froth on the floor, all those words and nothing of substance , I criticize because I have an opinion and this is a PUBLIC forum where I am allowed to say my part ....all those words and you have yet to answer my question
st7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:Ok still doesn't answer how long does immunity on these vaccines last there are so many out now ..... no one is mentioning that.We knowthat Pfizer and Mdrna is a minimum of 6 months but I more concerned with the Chinese made brands such as Sinopharm
carluva wrote:Hover11,

From your question, it seems like you do not understand what efficacy is. A vaccine does not "offer" efficacy. A vaccine provides (or "offers") immunity
From Wikipedia: "Efficacy is the ability to perform a task to a satisfactory or expected degree. The word comes from the same roots as effectiveness, and it has often been used synonymously, although in pharmacology a distinction is now often made between efficacy and effectiveness."

I'd also encourage you to have a look at this video which I posted several weeks ago on this thread.

https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A

hover11 wrote:Any word on how long vaccine efficacy lasts?
adnj wrote:People vaccinated outside the United States

People who were vaccinated outside the United States with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine and have received all the recommended doses do not need any additional doses. People who received the first dose of an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses do not need to restart the vaccine series in the United States but should receive the second dose as close to the recommended time as possible.

Some people may have received a COVID-19 vaccine that is not currently authorized in the United States. No data are available on the safety or efficacy of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the United States after receipt of a non-FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine. However, in some circumstances people who received a COVID-19 vaccine not currently authorized in the United States may be offered revaccination with an FDA-authorized vaccine:

COVID-19 vaccines not authorized by FDA but listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO)2

People who have received all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is listed for emergency use by WHO do not need any additional doses with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

People who have not received all the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

COVID-19 vaccines neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO

People who received all or some of the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

The minimum interval between the last dose of a non-FDA authorized vaccine or a WHO-listed vaccine and an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine is 28 days. Only people who have received all recommended doses of an FDA-authorized or WHO-listed COVID-19 vaccine are considered fully vaccinated for the purpose of public health guidance.3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... es-us.html



dude why are u so lazy? get the information yourself and stop relying on trinituner for said info. you only come here to complain about everything and dont make any meaningful contributions to this and the next ched.

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paid_influencer wrote:yea there isn't any information on the length of protection for the inactivated-virus vaccines, as far as I know. Don't mention it too much because it is genuinely a touchy subject and some may take offense and snap at you.

I would recommend against mentioning brand names unless absolutely necessary.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby adnj » June 27th, 2021, 6:47 pm

hover11 wrote:So we just taking something into our bodies and we don't know how long this lasting wtf so how will you know when immunity is waning, especially for those who are immuno compromised
hover11 wrote:Calm down pfizer fan boy you getting all the froth on the floor, all those words and nothing of substance , I criticize because I have an opinion and this is a PUBLIC forum where I am allowed to say my part ....all those words and you have yet to answer my question
st7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:Ok still doesn't answer how long does immunity on these vaccines last there are so many out now ..... no one is mentioning that.We knowthat Pfizer and Mdrna is a minimum of 6 months but I more concerned with the Chinese made brands such as Sinopharm
carluva wrote:Hover11,

From your question, it seems like you do not understand what efficacy is. A vaccine does not "offer" efficacy. A vaccine provides (or "offers") immunity
From Wikipedia: "Efficacy is the ability to perform a task to a satisfactory or expected degree. The word comes from the same roots as effectiveness, and it has often been used synonymously, although in pharmacology a distinction is now often made between efficacy and effectiveness."

I'd also encourage you to have a look at this video which I posted several weeks ago on this thread.

https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A

hover11 wrote:Any word on how long vaccine efficacy lasts?
adnj wrote:People vaccinated outside the United States

People who were vaccinated outside the United States with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine and have received all the recommended doses do not need any additional doses. People who received the first dose of an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses do not need to restart the vaccine series in the United States but should receive the second dose as close to the recommended time as possible.

Some people may have received a COVID-19 vaccine that is not currently authorized in the United States. No data are available on the safety or efficacy of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the United States after receipt of a non-FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine. However, in some circumstances people who received a COVID-19 vaccine not currently authorized in the United States may be offered revaccination with an FDA-authorized vaccine:

COVID-19 vaccines not authorized by FDA but listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO)2

People who have received all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is listed for emergency use by WHO do not need any additional doses with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

People who have not received all the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

COVID-19 vaccines neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO

People who received all or some of the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

The minimum interval between the last dose of a non-FDA authorized vaccine or a WHO-listed vaccine and an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine is 28 days. Only people who have received all recommended doses of an FDA-authorized or WHO-listed COVID-19 vaccine are considered fully vaccinated for the purpose of public health guidance.3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... es-us.html



dude why are u so lazy? get the information yourself and stop relying on trinituner for said info. you only come here to complain about everything and dont make any meaningful contributions to this and the next ched.

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paid_influencer wrote:yea there isn't any information on the length of protection for the inactivated-virus vaccines, as far as I know. Don't mention it too much because it is genuinely a touchy subject and some may take offense and snap at you.

I would recommend against mentioning brand names unless absolutely necessary.
Don't take it. Talk done.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby st7 » June 27th, 2021, 7:07 pm

adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:So we just taking something into our bodies and we don't know how long this lasting wtf so how will you know when immunity is waning, especially for those who are immuno compromised
hover11 wrote:Calm down pfizer fan boy you getting all the froth on the floor, all those words and nothing of substance , I criticize because I have an opinion and this is a PUBLIC forum where I am allowed to say my part ....all those words and you have yet to answer my question
st7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:Ok still doesn't answer how long does immunity on these vaccines last there are so many out now ..... no one is mentioning that.We knowthat Pfizer and Mdrna is a minimum of 6 months but I more concerned with the Chinese made brands such as Sinopharm
carluva wrote:Hover11,

From your question, it seems like you do not understand what efficacy is. A vaccine does not "offer" efficacy. A vaccine provides (or "offers") immunity
From Wikipedia: "Efficacy is the ability to perform a task to a satisfactory or expected degree. The word comes from the same roots as effectiveness, and it has often been used synonymously, although in pharmacology a distinction is now often made between efficacy and effectiveness."

I'd also encourage you to have a look at this video which I posted several weeks ago on this thread.

https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A

hover11 wrote:Any word on how long vaccine efficacy lasts?
adnj wrote:People vaccinated outside the United States

People who were vaccinated outside the United States with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine and have received all the recommended doses do not need any additional doses. People who received the first dose of an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses do not need to restart the vaccine series in the United States but should receive the second dose as close to the recommended time as possible.

Some people may have received a COVID-19 vaccine that is not currently authorized in the United States. No data are available on the safety or efficacy of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the United States after receipt of a non-FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine. However, in some circumstances people who received a COVID-19 vaccine not currently authorized in the United States may be offered revaccination with an FDA-authorized vaccine:

COVID-19 vaccines not authorized by FDA but listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO)2

People who have received all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is listed for emergency use by WHO do not need any additional doses with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

People who have not received all the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

COVID-19 vaccines neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO

People who received all or some of the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

The minimum interval between the last dose of a non-FDA authorized vaccine or a WHO-listed vaccine and an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine is 28 days. Only people who have received all recommended doses of an FDA-authorized or WHO-listed COVID-19 vaccine are considered fully vaccinated for the purpose of public health guidance.3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... es-us.html



dude why are u so lazy? get the information yourself and stop relying on trinituner for said info. you only come here to complain about everything and dont make any meaningful contributions to this and the next ched.

this sufferer attitude dred
7teve8poqof41.jpeg
paid_influencer wrote:yea there isn't any information on the length of protection for the inactivated-virus vaccines, as far as I know. Don't mention it too much because it is genuinely a touchy subject and some may take offense and snap at you.

I would recommend against mentioning brand names unless absolutely necessary.
Don't take it. Talk done.


exactly.

hoover, if u wanna criticize, dont do so without substance. do research, and link your findings from reputable sources. but dont be a lazy jack and contribute nothing but anti-vax talk based on your personal opinions. it get old rel fast and iz like u want to measure dick with everyone who are pro vax. no one forcing u to take anything. u dont take it, u just gonna suffer and/or die when you get covid. be safe out there until u make up ur mind.

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby De Dragon » June 27th, 2021, 10:44 pm

adnj wrote:
hover11 wrote:So we just taking something into our bodies and we don't know how long this lasting wtf so how will you know when immunity is waning, especially for those who are immuno compromised
hover11 wrote:Calm down pfizer fan boy you getting all the froth on the floor, all those words and nothing of substance , I criticize because I have an opinion and this is a PUBLIC forum where I am allowed to say my part ....all those words and you have yet to answer my question
st7 wrote:
hover11 wrote:Ok still doesn't answer how long does immunity on these vaccines last there are so many out now ..... no one is mentioning that.We knowthat Pfizer and Mdrna is a minimum of 6 months but I more concerned with the Chinese made brands such as Sinopharm
carluva wrote:Hover11,

From your question, it seems like you do not understand what efficacy is. A vaccine does not "offer" efficacy. A vaccine provides (or "offers") immunity
From Wikipedia: "Efficacy is the ability to perform a task to a satisfactory or expected degree. The word comes from the same roots as effectiveness, and it has often been used synonymously, although in pharmacology a distinction is now often made between efficacy and effectiveness."

I'd also encourage you to have a look at this video which I posted several weeks ago on this thread.

https://youtu.be/K3odScka55A

hover11 wrote:Any word on how long vaccine efficacy lasts?
adnj wrote:People vaccinated outside the United States

People who were vaccinated outside the United States with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine and have received all the recommended doses do not need any additional doses. People who received the first dose of an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine that requires two doses do not need to restart the vaccine series in the United States but should receive the second dose as close to the recommended time as possible.

Some people may have received a COVID-19 vaccine that is not currently authorized in the United States. No data are available on the safety or efficacy of receiving a COVID-19 vaccine currently authorized in the United States after receipt of a non-FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine. However, in some circumstances people who received a COVID-19 vaccine not currently authorized in the United States may be offered revaccination with an FDA-authorized vaccine:

COVID-19 vaccines not authorized by FDA but listed for emergency use by the World Health Organization (WHO)2

People who have received all recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is listed for emergency use by WHO do not need any additional doses with an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine.

People who have not received all the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

COVID-19 vaccines neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO

People who received all or some of the recommended doses of a COVID-19 vaccine that is neither authorized by FDA nor listed for emergency use by WHO may be offered a complete FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine series.

The minimum interval between the last dose of a non-FDA authorized vaccine or a WHO-listed vaccine and an FDA-authorized COVID-19 vaccine is 28 days. Only people who have received all recommended doses of an FDA-authorized or WHO-listed COVID-19 vaccine are considered fully vaccinated for the purpose of public health guidance.3

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/c ... es-us.html



dude why are u so lazy? get the information yourself and stop relying on trinituner for said info. you only come here to complain about everything and dont make any meaningful contributions to this and the next ched.

this sufferer attitude dred
7teve8poqof41.jpeg
paid_influencer wrote:yea there isn't any information on the length of protection for the inactivated-virus vaccines, as far as I know. Don't mention it too much because it is genuinely a touchy subject and some may take offense and snap at you.

I would recommend against mentioning brand names unless absolutely necessary.
Don't take it. Talk done.

Nah, makes more sense to come here and be the anti-vax troll

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Re: COVID-19 Vaccine Tracker (News and Updates)

Postby Dizzy28 » June 28th, 2021, 9:03 am

Did any of TT's AZ come from anywhere else?

I saw two legal notices approving AZ manufactured in Netherlands and South Korea respectively (those notices were May and June though)

India's Covishield jab is not eligible for a European Union travel pass for vaccinated tourists, reports say.
Covishield is the Indian-made version of AstraZeneca, which is eligible for the EU-wide pass or digital green certificate, set to launch on 1 July.

While the latter has been approved by the European Medicines Agency (EMA), the former doesn't appear to be under review currently.

India has so far overwhelmingly administered Covishield jabs. The vaccine's manufacturer, Serum Institute of India (SII), has not clarified if they have applied for approval, but the EMA told the Indian news website Wire that they had not done so.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-ind ... 994744363C

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