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sMASH wrote:same ting with this helicopter. yeah unc started the lease, but u renewed the lease(during dillion's term, renta man dillion) and still did not stop it, or attempt to renegoitiate it, then let the payments slip, until getting sued for the contract. ample time and opportunity to NOT let get to this extreme.
is like what pnm does be thinking? u all think the seemee deemee that goes on in trinidad will work outside, when people looking for cold hard cash? what pnm does be hoping for?
Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:Habit7 wrote:sMASH wrote:i heard on a morning show, that the lease was renewed in 2016, which would fall under $10 housing minister's term. soooo, that was an opportune time to cancel it.
So someone just as uninformed as you call in on a program and that is your credible source of info? If somebody call in tomorrow and say govt leased a F16 you will believe that too?
nope, the host said it. i was incognito since that time, so i could not get more details, to confirm.
Well a radio host is not a credible source of info. And it is laziness on your part to only listen to him and not corroborate it.
http://www.news.gov.tt/content/upgrade- ... _zYxxgpA0E
http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?p=10123727#p10123727sMASH wrote:i agree, need to corroborate the story. but the guy is reliable enough to say that he would not have said this without somethign solid
sMASH wrote:so when they cut back, they cut feed to the whole site. when u could have gotten ur full charge to make ur full quota, now u hadda share up with all the others, and take a percentage hit, cause u uNiTiZe.
So you saying that they will cut back on the only plants that they have a shareholding in??
BP/Shell have little equity in Pt Lisas-the biggest return for their gas is LNG-and now its the whole complex not specific trains.
Train one was starved because they prefered to supply 2,3 and 4 due to shareholding and the marketing/sale agreements meant that TnT got less return from 2,3,4 than Train 1 This process shares the supply and will be modifying the revenue stream to deal with the transfer pricing IN ORDER TO AVOID THAT CONFLICT OF THE SUPPLIERS DIRECTING GAS SUPPLY TO THEIR BENEFITand when u done do a TAR, once done well, ur plant sparking, instead of getting to maximize the fresh equipment, u have to shoulder a curtailment?
Again you have 3 other trains to turn around in the future.
Train 1 will be operational as the others come down.miss me with that unitiztion talk, for the while... and push back that TAR to let the 90%ers to pay their fair share.
They paid 3.5bTTD in 2019.... so ignore the simple facts that this is an ongoing process that BP/Shell paid more than we spent-and the end result is tbd but OBVIOUSLY the goal is to improve the benefits of the whole complex?
Just to satisfy your politics?it will make sense if u could share the profits, not if u have to share the burdens of the loss of production... when u didnt need to before.
zoom rader wrote:Which red government minster give you dat house .?bluefete wrote:zoom rader wrote:Oh please , does it look like HDC or Beetham Gardens .bluefete wrote:How you know what those home owners look like?
You expect red government ppl to have nice homes? Wey you living.
In a nice guavament home.
Bobol, injun againbluefete wrote:Not one blasted any of them.
I bought it from a homeowner who was selling - LEGALLY!.![]()
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zoom rader wrote:Which red government minster give you dat house .?bluefete wrote:zoom rader wrote:Oh please , does it look like HDC or Beetham Gardens .bluefete wrote:How you know what those home owners look like?
You expect red government ppl to have nice homes? Wey you living.
In a nice guavament home.
The red government did sell MV Panorama internally, ent UNC shut down Caroni and send home 3500 from PetrotrinHabit7 wrote:ZR is the best too
ZR: Wicked PNM sell the Panorama
Me: No it was the UNC
ZR: They had no choice, it was a rust bucket lacking maintenance
Me: the UNC said its role became antiquated (due to PNM buying 2 fast ferries) and the best advice was to sell it because it was not fit for purpose. It sailed from Trinidad to Greece.
ZR: well, the advice was PNM
At least with zr you know he is just trying to troll.
But with the others, they sadly believe their convoluted nonsense and for some reason get angry because one has the temerity to point out the falsehoods and inconsistencies.
zoom rader wrote:Bobol, injun againbluefete wrote:Not one blasted any of them.
I bought it from a homeowner who was selling - LEGALLY!.![]()
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zoom rader wrote:Which red government minster give you dat house .?bluefete wrote:zoom rader wrote:Oh please , does it look like HDC or Beetham Gardens .bluefete wrote:How you know what those home owners look like?
You expect red government ppl to have nice homes? Wey you living.
In a nice guavament home.
zoom rader wrote:The red government did sell MV Panorama internally, ent UNC shut down Caroni and send home 3500 from Petrotrin
Yeah UNC in power dumbassHabit7 wrote:zoom rader wrote:The red government did sell MV Panorama internally, ent UNC shut down Caroni and send home 3500 from Petrotrin
Yeah the UNC did it internally.
#consistency
Better check dat deed you have, sounds like bobol .bluefete wrote:zoom rader wrote:Bobol, injun againbluefete wrote:Not one blasted any of them.
I bought it from a homeowner who was selling - LEGALLY!.![]()
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zoom rader wrote:Which red government minster give you dat house .?bluefete wrote:zoom rader wrote:Oh please , does it look like HDC or Beetham Gardens .bluefete wrote:How you know what those home owners look like?
You expect red government ppl to have nice homes? Wey you living.
In a nice guavament home.
So is only one type of people would LEGALLY sell a gov't built home?
Post some edvendence what Terry say nah.bluefete wrote:They will Privatize the Port to China.
After all, Lake Asphalt is already contracted out to China.
Why do you think Xi Jinping called Rowley yesterday? It was to make sure that he towed the line for the Port.
Also, why would the gov't want to get C-19 vaccines from China, that are not approved by WHO, and may not be approved by WHO for months/years to come?
Ent Uncle Terry said that only WHO approved C-19 vaccines would be used in T&T?
We better change our name from T&T to China-owned T&T.
Edit: I forgot that China will get / has gotten the contract to build the BRAND NEW POLICE HQ at Sea Lots.
zoom rader wrote:Post some edvendence what Terry say nah. Habit7 go say you telling lies .
So am I to understand that the red government wants to bring in Chinese vaccines that are not approved by WHO?bluefete wrote:zoom rader wrote:Post some edvendence what Terry say nah. Habit7 go say you telling lies .
Deyalsingh defends why T&T has no Covid vaccines
Donstan Bonn Mar 15, 2021 Updated Mar 15, 2021
Health Minister Terrence Deyalsingh today defended the Government’s position in what is being labelled a tardy approach to the implementation of Trinidad and Tobago’s vaccination programme.
Noting that the Government has come in for unwarranted criticism from certain factions in society as well as members of the Opposition, Deyalsingh stated that in this era of misinformation and disinformation, the Government’s vaccination plan is being misconstrued, ripped apart and reconstructed by those who should know better, to give a narrative designed to breed ill-confidence in the Government’s vaccination plan.
“Commentators and certain Opposition Leaders are pointing to countries that have started their vaccination plan, and why we have not started as yet,” said Deyalsingh, who was speaking at Monday’s virtual COVID-19 media conference.
“We have said from day one that Trinidad and Tobago, as per protocol, will only be allowing into the country vaccines approved by WHO (World Health Organisation), once they get Emergency Use Licence or Emergency Use Agreement. We must note that when we are compared to other countries that have started their vaccination programmes, many of these countries, as is their right as sovereign states, are using non-WHO approved vaccines and we can have absolutely no problem with that. So we are not comparing like with like, we are comparing apples with oranges.”
Stating that Trinidad and Tobago’s model for managing COVID, by all objective measures, has proven to be successful, he added that lives and livelihoods were saved and that most of the sectors in the country were in fact open.
“The vaccination which Trinidad and Tobago has used for over fifty years has proven to be successful. And one of the key success factors in fifty years of vaccinating people is that people must have trust in the vaccine. This tried and proven method of using WHO-approved vaccines has served us well for fifty years.
He said that fact is supported by one nurse who appeared on a previous COVID-19 update programme stated that in her 10 years of vaccinating people she has never had to fill out an adverse event form.
“And that is why I’m confident that once we start to vaccinate persons on this tried and tested method for fifty years, it is going to prove successful.”
Constraints to vaccination start
“The Pfizer vaccine which was not originally a part of COVAX, got approval on December 31, 2020. So as far as the COVAX Facility is concerned, Pfizer has only been available two-and-a-half months. The Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine only got approval on February 15, one month ago. And the Johnson and Johnson vaccine got approval on March 12, three days ago.
“So I want all those who are intent on creating mischief and misleading the population… I’m speaking directly to the population now, the vaccines approved by WHO - Pfizer approved two-and-a-half months now, Oxford AstraZeneca which we are expecting in this country, on February 15, only one month ago, and Johnson and Johnson three days ago. So that is where we are in the line-up of having WHO-approved vaccines.
“But the population also needs to understand, and we have said this before, that WHO not only approves the vaccines as per normal neo-drug process in Trinidad and Tobago, they also approves the sites of manufacture,” Deyalsingh said.
Stating that the AstraZeneca vaccine is being manufactured in many plants around the world such as the United States, Europe, South Korea, The Health Minister noted that the WHO has only approved two sites under the COVAX Facility for its manufacture, the Serum Institute of India and South Korea’s SK BIO, which presents a further limitation.
“It is our information that the vaccines we will be getting under the COVAX Facility, hopefully by the end of March, are coming from SK BIO, the South Korean plant.
“The reason why I’m going into such details is that the population must understand the due diligence that both Trinidad and Tobago and WHO engage in to make sure that the vaccines that we supply to persons to go into your arm, are safe and efficacious.
In further support of the of the Government’s position, Deyalsingh drew reference to the suspension of the use of the AstraZeneca vaccine by some European countries over persons experiencing adverse events from certain batches manufactured in Europe although no link has been made.
“But could you imagine if I as Minister of Health advised the Government to bring in any vaccine from a plant that is not visited by and signed off by the WHO, and similar concerns were raised locally.
“Whilst I know we are all anxious, and I’m anxious, safety of our local population must trump expediency,” Deyalsingh said.
The Health Minister noted that the Government’s approach to its vaccination plan is based on policy, science and evidence.
He said the country’s vaccination plan began when the Government signed on the COVAX Agreement on September 18 last year, which was followed by a Cabinet Note that spoke to the WHO’s objectives of using COVAX to vaccinate twenty per cent of the world’s population or of that of countries that signed up to COVAX, to end the acute phase of the pandemic within one year or hopefully, by the end of 2021.
“The Cabinet Note went a bit further, that we will seek to source through COVAX enough vaccines to vaccinate thirty-three per cent of the population, outside of the initial twenty per cent.”
Stating that 33% would be just over 500,000 persons, Deyalsingh added that according to the science, if a country wants to achieve herd immunity, between 50%-70% of its population must be vaccinated, which is outside of the COVAX figure.
He said outside of COVAX, Trinidad and Tobago began formal bi-lateral talks on October 1, 2020, which continue up to present, with countries and also vaccine manufacturers who to date have all said that they’re not selling vaccines to third parties or private entities, they are only dealing with Governments.
“Other approaches are being managed through the Caricom Secretariat which manages the African Medicine Council’s platform,” Deyalsingh said.
https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/d ... 6ed75.html
zoom rader wrote:So am I to understand that the red government wants to bring in Chinese vaccines that are not approved by WHO?
Awaits Habit7 and Redman to dispute this or can theybluefete wrote:zoom rader wrote:So am I to understand that the red government wants to bring in Chinese vaccines that are not approved by WHO?
That is exactly right.
Uncle Terry said that the government would import the unapproved vaccines and store them until they are approved by WHO.
Chinese building it ?bluefete wrote:Notice that not once did GG mention WHERE the new Police HQ was going to be built or who was building it:
Gary Griffith
March 16th, 2021
MEDIA RELEASE
CoP Discusses New Police Headquarters with NIPDEC
Discussions surrounding the new Police Headquarters were high on the agenda when Commissioner of Police, Gary Griffith, met with a delegation from the National Insurance Property Development Company Limited (NIPDEC) today.
The meeting, held at the Police Administration Building, Port-of-Spain, centered around providing the TTPS with adequate tools and infrastructure, which would in turn ensure better service to the people of Trinidad and Tobago.
The CoP expressed his keen interest in the start and completion of the new Police Headquarters building, stating that the TTPS has operated without one for the past 30 years.
Commissioner Griffith said that unlike many other Police Services around the world, the TTPS has been operating out of silos, where Special Branch, Cyber Crime, Anti-Kidnapping Unit and other vital strategic units are based in different buildings.
The CoP noted that units scattered throughout the country, not only lead to strategic deficiencies, but also financial inefficiencies, given the exorbitant expenditure paid in rent.
During the meeting the CoP said he intends to utilise the new Police Headquarters as a “War room”, where the police can deal with kidnappings, any natural or man-made disasters, and operations.
Commissioner Griffith also stated that the building would require a heavy investment in Information Technology (IT) that would ensure optimum connectivity, as the heads of strategic units like the Guard and Emergency Branch (GEB), Multi Operational Police Section (MOPS), Inter-Agency Task Force (IATF), Special Operations Response Team (SORT), Homicide, and Cyber-Crime Unit will operate from the new headquarters.
Discussions also focused on the acquisition of police vehicles and a Heating, Ventilation and Air Conditioning (HVAC) system for the TTPS.
Sheldon Edghill, Head, Executive Management Services, Someet Ramroop, Head Administration, Salisha Gomes-Andrews, Head Planning, Research and Product Implementation, and Patrick Cunningham, Programme Manager, represented the TTPS, whilst NIPDEC was represented by Raymond Hackett, General Manager, Vyas Ramphalie, Head, Property Development and Jabari Cozier, Head, Finance and Accounts.
Corporate Communications Unit
March 16th, 2021
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Redman wrote:You correct.
NO properly run organization pays $300M to fund a TAR for a plant of which they own a mere 10%
Of course your simplistic assumption is that the unitization process leaves us at the level we started with and that this isn't the first part of the
ongoing yet to be completed fulll process.
You catching up.
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Dotishee, Proman was sold MHTL in 2009, and the GORTT filed in court to stop the sale. How TF do you think the ICC got involved? You real dotish in truth, you eh even playing againYou persist in trying to hoodwink your LFD RFD PNM chums, and people who don't know better, by talking out of your cacahole, forgetting that people who remember and lived through these events are here to correct your lies and falsehoods
https://redirect.viglink.com/?format=go ... 01372.html
This is the inconsistency I am speaking about.
You said, "PNM took chain up from Duprey when he blatantly LIED and sold MHTL to Proman in spite of being under GORTT bail out."
now you saying, "in 2009, and the GORTT filed in court to stop the sale"
Who was the GoRTT in 2009, not the PNM?
[b]Did the PNM "take chain up from Duprey to sell MHTL" or "GORTT filed in court to stop the sale"
Make up your mind and be consistent.
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And don't have the audacity to talk about lies and falsehoods when you constantly spewing them.De Dragon wrote:Just like they're equally dotish about the sale of WGTL to a known LFD RFD PNM lobbyist who got millions to lobby for WTF we don't know, declared less than 10% of it, got the plant for a pittance,
I hope the "they" you addressing there is the UNC?
Because it was they who valued the GTL plant as "pittance"
they authorised the sale of plant
they selected Niquan as the preferred investor
they agreed on the price.
https://www.energy.gov.tt/wp-content/up ... roject.pdf
It is also funny you have a problem with a PNM lobbyist buying a plant from a UNC govt, but not that a shareholder of Niquan is UNC Senator Gerry Hadeed. The plant was put up for sale by the UNC and they choose the best bid which was headed by a PNM lobbyist. Likewise, a UNC racist is heading a group interested in buying the refinery, if he has the best bid I am sure he will get it. Strictly business.
bluefete wrote:zoom rader wrote:So am I to understand that the red government wants to bring in Chinese vaccines that are not approved by WHO?
That is exactly right.
Uncle Terry said that the government would import the unapproved vaccines and store them until they are approved by WHO.
De Dragon wrote:Cacahole, the LFD RFD PNM bailed out CLICO with the express condition that no assets were to be sold without their consent. Duprey still sold MHTL to Proman. Simpy LFD RFD PNM then tried to block the sale, only to be blanked.. WTF about this you don't get?
Habit7 wrote:De Dragon wrote:Cacahole, the LFD RFD PNM bailed out CLICO with the express condition that no assets were to be sold without their consent. Duprey still sold MHTL to Proman. Simpy LFD RFD PNM then tried to block the sale, only to be blanked.. WTF about this you don't get?
Well you digging yourself into a deeper hole.
If Duprey sold MHTL without PNM's consent then why say PNM took chain up?
And if PNM moved to block the sale, why hold them responsible?
And if according to you, Duprey selling it was against conditions, why the ICC allowed it?
You lack consistency bad bad.
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