PNM in Gov't (2020-2025)

[paid_influencer]

The zammy man promising to protect women meanwhile the zammy man has been in power for 10 years and did absolutely nothing to protect women but simply ridicule themFB_IMG_1741387513948.jpg

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He going to tackle laurel lezama Lee sing

lol

[pugboy]

the word “reform” does come up every election
just like how every budget they talk about economy diversification

[hover11]

I think this is the first election I am seeing absolutely no mamaguyism, there is no rush to pave roads nor entice voters , a little again and I doubting this is an election year. Politicians paid themselves bold increases during an election year to boot.No fcks were given on the thoughts of the electorate.

the word “reform” does come up every election
just like how every budget they talk about economy diversification

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[sMASH]

Vote PNM for change !

[The_Honourable]

I think this is the first election I am seeing absolutely no mamaguyism, there is no rush to pave roads nor entice voters , a little again and I doubting this is an election year. Politicians paid themselves bold increases during an election year to boot.No fcks were given on the thoughts of the electorate.

the word “reform” does come up every election
just like how every budget they talk about economy diversification

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Mamaguyism starts when election date is called. Rowley have to open the new POS hospital block and the new Tobago airport to get the ball rolling.

When stuart becomes OJT prime minister later this month, he would need time for the public to get use to him in this position. As mentioned before, i suspect an August election date which may be called between May and June after they mid-year budget review. Election mamaguyism is not free, Imbert have to release funds.

Rowley doesn't feel threatened by the UNC to call an election date at this time, but he's not letting his guard down.

[pugboy]

the population in general is fedup of this govt
incl red supporters
so the cheap enticements don’t mean much

[hover11]

I think this is the first election I am seeing absolutely no mamaguyism, there is no rush to pave roads nor entice voters , a little again and I doubting this is an election year. Politicians paid themselves bold increases during an election year to boot.No fcks were given on the thoughts of the electorate.

the word “reform” does come up every election
just like how every budget they talk about economy diversification

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Mamaguyism starts when election date is called. Rowley have to open the new POS hospital block and the new Tobago airport to get the ball rolling.

When stuart becomes OJT prime minister later this month, he would need time for the public to get use to him in this position. As mentioned before, i suspect an August election date which may be called between May and June after they mid-year budget review. Election mamaguyism is not free, Imbert have to release funds.

Rowley doesn't feel threatened by the UNC to call an election date at this time, but he's not letting his guard down.

Makes sense when you put it like that , well calculated

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[The_Honourable]

the population in general is fedup of this govt
incl red supporters
so the cheap enticements don’t mean much

Me too... and UNC needs to get their rented house in order

FAST

[paid_influencer]

rowley resigning next week

rajesh will become pm supposedly

dragging this out will have the same effect as when they dragged out the THA election

[pugboy]

the stepping down was a move
to try and get the “fedup rowlee” mentality diluted
most likely orchestrated by the older heads or the 1%

rowley resigning next week

rajesh will become pm supposedly

dragging this out will have the same effect as when they dragged out the THA election

[hover11]

But isn't it the same PNM? Who solving the same "fedup of PNM" mentality?

the stepping down was a move
to try and get the “fedup rowlee” mentality diluted
most likely orchestrated by the older heads or the 1%

rowley resigning next week

rajesh will become pm supposedly

dragging this out will have the same effect as when they dragged out the THA election

[pugboy]

you forget trinis have limited brain cells the memory of a week or less
come april most forget about rowlee

But isn't it the same PNM? Who solving the same "fedup of PNM" mentality?

the stepping down was a move
to try and get the “fedup rowlee” mentality diluted
most likely orchestrated by the older heads or the 1%

rowley resigning next week

rajesh will become pm supposedly

dragging this out will have the same effect as when they dragged out the THA election

[alfa]

In time to come they might even praise Rowley like how some are praising Manning now as being way better than Rowley, forgetting that Manning was the most hated man in 2010

[hover11]

I have come to the conclusion that as a government of this country you don't need to do much.....the bar is so low that this country can simply be on autopilot and it will continue as is. We have seen that the government of the day called an SOE on their terms and murders continue as normal, ppl paying for public services such as water and can only have access to such only once or twice per week. Then as pug stated a while back ....what government wouldn't love a reason for their citizens to be distracted for at least three months EVERY year

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[paid_influencer]

In time to come they might even praise Rowley like how some are praising Manning now as being way better than Rowley, forgetting that Manning was the most hated man in 2010

I could tell you for a fact that there always was a decent contingent of true-believers that loved & were devoted to Manning, in a way that nobody is doing for Rowley.

Manning lead the country through unprecedented boom times. All the wealth that came out of Point Lisas, the liberalization of the economy, floating of the dollar, the removing capital controls, etc, people remember that and associate those things with Manning's term.

But what will people associate with Rowley's term? The only thing here is hopelessness, pain and suffering.

People in the PNM now see it as purely a transactional relationship. Nobody is earnestly buying into Rowley's vision as some did under Manning. Even the most die-hard in the PNM would struggle to define what Rowley's vision ever was, or even if Rowley ever had one.

So no, Rowley in no way shape or form going to be remembered the same way as Manning. Maybe closer to a Chambers, if he lucky.

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If it's one thing he made sure to pay himself a lucrative retirement package before he left us

In time to come they might even praise Rowley like how some are praising Manning now as being way better than Rowley, forgetting that Manning was the most hated man in 2010

I could tell you for a fact that there always was a decent contingent of true-believers that loved & were devoted to Manning, in a way that nobody is doing for Rowley.

Manning lead the country through unprecedented boom times. All the wealth that came out of Point Lisas, the liberalization of the economy, floating of the dollar, the removing capital controls, etc, people remember that and associate those things with Manning's term.

But what will people associate with Rowley's term? The only thing here is hopelessness, pain and suffering.

People in the PNM now see it as purely a transactional relationship. Nobody is earnestly buying into Rowley's vision as some did under Manning. Even the most die-hard in the PNM would struggle to define what Rowley's vision ever was, or even if Rowley ever had one.

So no, Rowley in no way shape or form going to be remembered the same way as Manning. Maybe closer to a Chambers, if he lucky.

[MaxPower]

It’s really unbelievable how you fine gentlemen think that the majority of the population is fed up and vote for who is the “better party”.

PNM 2025 is highly possible…but you knew that already.

[st7]

max, let them men feel important with their posts. they loud on a forum but not in real life

[88sins]

All I know is this
I live in a "PNM area", and I seeing plenty people in the area struggling to live and provide a decent quality of life for themselves and their family.
I'm also hearing them voice their dissatisfaction with the state of affairs, with regard to the constantly rising cost of food, the lack of opportunities for gainful employment, the narcotics situation, the frequent killings by both citizens and law enforcement, poor infrastructure, unreliable utilities, etc.
They're also annoyed at quite a few policies that have been implemented, and rather pissed about several policies that have been bandied about but not yet implemented that may be coming in the future, that WILL make their lives MUCH harder than it already is.


The consensus is, generally speaking, people in "PNM areas" are fed up of having to be the ones to feel the pain of PNM brand of so-called leadership, while a select few others reap the benefits at their expense.

But, at the end of the day, we must accept that people does grumble amongst themselves against the PNM, and still go vote PNM come election day. Because sadly the majority of people in this country vote based on hair texture, and election ditties, and a few dollars wrapped up in a cheap t-shirt tossed at them during voting season, and NOT on track record of performance. It's a shame and a travesty honestly.

All I can say is that I hope the citizenry at large comes to their senses sooner rather than later when trying to decide their future come election day. Because the honest truth is, NOT ONE POLITICAL GROUP that runs for office in this country give a damn about the population outside of their little circles. Once the majority of people figure that out, and start to reject that as the standard, we'll see an improvement.


Rise up and wise up.

[hover11]

All I know is this
I live in a "PNM area", and I seeing plenty people in the area struggling to live and provide a decent quality of life for themselves and their family.
I'm also hearing them voice their dissatisfaction with the state of affairs, with regard to the constantly rising cost of food, the lack of opportunities for gainful employment, the narcotics situation, the frequent killings by both citizens and law enforcement, poor infrastructure, unreliable utilities, etc.
They're also annoyed at quite a few policies that have been implemented, and rather pissed about several policies that have been bandied about but not yet implemented that may be coming in the future, that WILL make their lives MUCH harder than it already is.


The consensus is, generally speaking, people in "PNM areas" are fed up of having to be the ones to feel the pain of PNM brand of so-called leadership, while a select few others reap the benefits at their expense.

But, at the end of the day, we must accept that people does grumble amongst themselves against the PNM, and still go vote PNM come election day. Because sadly the majority of people in this country vote based on hair texture, and election ditties, and a few dollars wrapped up in a cheap t-shirt tossed at them during voting season, and NOT on track record of performance. It's a shame and a travesty honestly.

All I can say is that I hope the citizenry at large comes to their senses sooner rather than later when trying to decide their future come election day. Because the honest truth is, NOT ONE POLITICAL GROUP that runs for office in this country give a damn about the population outside of their little circles. Once the majority of people figure that out, and start to reject that as the standard, we'll see an improvement.


Rise up and wise up.

I just want to ask a question... all the years you lived in this PNM area, what have you seen PNM do for the area to uplift the ppl, to better the community or to even better the standard of living of the constituents?

[88sins]

Not a thing sir, not one thing.
Roads and drains aren't being maintained, irregular water supply, killings and gunfire are a regular occurrence, schools in the area are in desperate need of repairs and upgrades, among other things.
For example, I can show you a box drain that was partially constructed, that was started almost a decade ago, and never finished to this day. Said drain is as I post this literally filled to the level of the road, with dirt and debris, for almost its entire length, width and depth, and I suspect that it will remain that way.

[hover11]

They say ppl have to do better for themselves and that is true in certain aspects but the role of the government is to improve the standard of living of its ppl. I not seeing that happening under the PNM

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[88sins]

That don't happen under NO political party buddy. You fix your mix, and don't waste your time waiting on them, because you will wait forever, and be disappointed in the end.

[paid_influencer]

photo: rajesh talking about women's rights to penny

[hover11]

photo: rajesh talking about women's rights to penny

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Wonder if he called her a zammy

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[The_Honourable]

Young expected to be sworn-in as PM on March 17

ENERGY Minister Stuart Young is expected to be sworn in as prime minister at President's House, St Ann's on March 17, the day after Dr Rowley resigns as PM.

While the PNM is expected to present its candidates at Woodford Square on March 16, it is not clear whether Rowley will use this forum to announce the date for this year's general election or leave that responsibility to Young after he succeeds him.

Rowley is due to return home from California, where he and his wife Sharon are on vacation, on March 9. These were the comments from senior government and PNM officials, speaking under strict condition of anonymity, on March 7.

Government officials said Rowley will demit office from midnight on March 16 and Young will be sworn in the next day.

But they could not say whether it will be Rowley or Young who will announce the election date.

While Rowley has said he will resign as PM and not stand for re-election as Diego Martin West MP, he remains PNM political leader. A government official said this situation is unprecedented in many ways.

March 16 will be the first time the PNM presents its slate of election candidates before the announcement of the election date.

Traditionally, the approval of candidates by the PNM's central executive and the subsequent public presentation happens after the election date is known.

The official said this is also the first time the party and country has an outgoing prime minister before an election is called.

Another official said it would not surprise anyone if there is some kind of legal challenge raised after March 16 regarding the interpretation of Sections 76 (1) (a) and (b) of the Constitution. Section 76 deals with the appointment of a prime minister.

The former subsection concerns who is the MP in the House of Representatives who commands the support of the majority of MPs in the House.

The latter subsection deals with the political party which holds the majority of seats in the House having an undisputed leader.

A third government official said because Rowley is still PNM political leader, some people may use Section 76 (1) (b) to claim he and not Young should be the one to call the election.

This official added a perusal of the Election and Boundaries Commission's (EBC) records will show Rowley is still officially recognized as the PNM's leader.

A fourth government official said Section 76 (1) (a) could be used to argue that since Young commands the majority support of government MPs, he is the prime minister and can call an election.

Rowley announced his decision to retire from electoral politics on January 6.

At a subsequent parliamentary retreat in Tobago, he said Young was selected to succeed him as prime minister.

After a PNM general council meeting in Port of Spain on January 11, party general secretary Foster Cummings said 20 PNM MPs had pledged support to Young as prime minister.

On the same day, it was announced the party would hold its convention on September 28 to decide who will succeed Rowley as political leader. He has held this post since 2010.

A senior party official said the presentation of candidates on March 16 is essentially a special party convention and such occasions do allow for resignations or appointments to be made. This official added if Rowley resigns as PNM leader, it could make any legal interpretation of Section 76 mute.

But another PNM official said the party's opponents may still seek an interpretation simply to create bacchanal.

In a recent newspaper opinion on February 20, attorney Larry Lalla, SC, said because the Constitution has evolved from the 1962 (Independence) to the 1972 version, the interpretation of Section 76 (1) (a) and (b), does not mean Rowley has to resign as PM and PNM political leader for Young to be regarded as the legitimate prime minister.

Lalla, who recently resigned as a member of the Opposition UNC over disagreements about the direction of that party, said this evolution showed the framers of the Constitution clearly envisaged a scenario where "the person holding the office of prime minister could be someone apart from the political leader of the party with the majority of seats in the House of Representatives."

In a commentary on February 16, UWI political scientist Dr Hamid Ghany argued the interpretation of Section 76 meant Young cannot be appointed prime minister while Rowley remains the PNM's leader.

Former House speaker Nizam Mohammed, in a separate opinion piece, agreed with Lalla's view about Section 76 having no relevance to Young being appointed prime minister.

He said the replacement of Rowley as PNM leader rests in the domain of the party and Section 76 has no influence on what happens there.

Government officials also said no legal challenges can be made to the act of President Christine Kangaloo appointing Young as prime minister because the Constitution prevents any such challenges against the President.

Newsday understands a letter with the signatures of the 20 government MPs supporting Young as PM will be sent to Kangaloo on March 17.

On March 7, officials at the Office of the President could not say whether such a letter has been received or if arrangements were being made for a prime ministerial swearing-in. Both Rowley and Young were unavailable for comment.

To date, the PNM has picked 40 candidates with Tabaquite being the only constituency without a candidate. Party sources said a Tabaquite candidate should be selected "very soon."

In January, Rowley said he had certain matters to attend to before he resigned as prime minister.

These included the attending his final Caricom heads of government meeting in Barbados (February 19-21), the official opening of the new Central Block at the Port of Spain General Hospital on March 10, and the official opening of the Arthur NR Robinson International Airport on March 15.

At a ceremony on February 26, for the Works and Transport Ministry's commissioning of the the O’Meara Road upgrade project, Rowley officially announced March 16 as his final day as prime minister.

WHAT SECTION 76 SAYS:

76 (1) (a) The President shall appoint as Prime Minister "a member of the House of Representatives who is the leader in that House of the party that commands the support of the majority of members of that House."

76 (1) (b) The President shall appoint as Prime Minister "where it appears to him that the party does not have an undisputed leader in the House or that no party commands the support of such a majority, the member of the House of Representatives, who in his judgement, is likely to command the support of the majority of members of that House, and who is willing to accept the office of Prime Minister."

https://newsday.co.tt/2025/03/08/young- ... march-1-7/

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T&T's first Prime Minister to not head a major political party

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How is this even legal is the question

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[redmanjp]

How is this even legal is the question

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76 (1) (B) makes it legal

[paid_influencer]

76 (1) (a) has to go through before 76 (1) (b) tho

some ppl saying under strict interpretation (a) will put rowley back as PM, since he is both leader of the PNM and still in the house
rajesh doesn't lead any party so he cannot be appointed under 76 (1) (a)
which is why everybody talking about 76 (1) (b) instead

but the president not suppose to go outside of the constitution, so she not suppose to just duck (a) to go to straight to (b)
if she does it is 100% legal and valid because anything the president do is above challenge.

being legal and being morally legitimate is not the same tho

rajesh need to face an electorate, either within the PNM or the General, to get that moral legitimacy