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Re: 12 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS hospital

Postby redmanjp » April 23rd, 2024, 9:52 pm

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shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Terrence stand up in front the media and say that someone from UDECOTT said it have no NICU at couva hospital ....meanwhile UDECOTT have an entire video showing the NICU.....

Never a dull moment


WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH?

In 2015, the UDECoTT produced a slick ad to promote the opening and capabilities of the since-renamed Couva Children's Hospital. In this video, you can see a medic describing the hospital's neonatal unit. There is now debate by Government and opposition politicians over whether a neonatal unit ever existed.

https://www.facebook.com/ExpressNewspap ... 510755049/


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https://www.facebook.com/share/p9piV51u ... tid=oFDknk

The public is advised that a video currently circulating on social media purporting to be the NICU of the then Couva Children's Hospital, is Fake.
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Re: 12 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS hospital

Postby The_Honourable » April 23rd, 2024, 10:12 pm

redmanjp wrote:
:lol:

https://www.facebook.com/share/p9piV51u ... tid=oFDknk

The public is advised that a video currently circulating on social media purporting to be the NICU of the then Couva Children's Hospital, is Fake.


but wuh the pnm mc is dis

So the udecott video back then was fake? :lol:

Full Udecott Video


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Re: 12 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS hospital

Postby Habit7 » April 23rd, 2024, 10:25 pm

shake d livin wake d dead wrote:Gonna rest this here for the night

That pic corroborates what Deyalsingh said

However, he said, he was informed by the Urban Development Corporation today, that the Couva hospital does not contain a Neonatal Intensive Care Unit (NICU), but instead has a 4-bed special unit intended for less urgent cases.

"I have a brief from the UDeCOTT which says as far as the Couva hospital is concerned there was no NICU...I just want to put that out there again…There was no NICU according to the brief I just got. There was a special SCBU (Special Care Baby Unit) which is what they call less urgent cases. I just want to put that out there as another piece of incorrect information which needs to be corrected," he said.

https://trinidadexpress.com/newsextra/b ... c0f81.html

UDECOTT under PP called it a NICU, under PNM they called it a SCBU.

At the end of the day, it is not relevant to the deaths at POSGH. And the hospital in Couva doesn't need to be opened because it already is in use despite what UNC says.

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Re: 12 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS hospital

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » April 24th, 2024, 6:54 am

So we at 16 deaths....waiting for stones to be left unturned

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby maj. tom » April 24th, 2024, 7:40 am

https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/morvant-couple-reveals-death-of-baby-at-posgh-nicu-6.2.1984110.42b610f908

Morvant couple reveals death of baby at PoSGH NICU:
We didn't think anybody would believe us

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A Morvant couple, whose first child died at the Port-of-Spain General Hospital’s Neonatal ICU on Christmas Eve last year, believes their baby’s death should have alerted health officials that something was wrong at the unit, preventing further loss of life

The couple, Roy Richards and Fayola Andrews, yesterday said they had questions about their baby Roxanne’s care and their concerns grew after her death but they thought no one would take them seriously if they came forward.

Then they saw, almost daily for the past two weeks, parents reliving their nightmare of losing their babies.

The couple said their daughter Roxanne was delivered via an emergency Caesarean section on November 23, 2023. One month and a day later she was dead. The first cause of death, as listed by the hospital, said Roxanne died from Klebsiella pneumoniae sepsis and prematurity. The second one stated the baby died of Klebsiella pneumoniae sepsis, prematurity and low birth weight.

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby pugboy » April 24th, 2024, 7:48 am

last year is a bit of a stretch though
but unfortunately everybody who had a child death gonna be coming out

remember global nicu death rates are 15%
if you have 10 babies in there,
most likely one gonna die
dunno if ours are same or higher

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby j.o.e » April 24th, 2024, 8:12 am

pugboy wrote:last year is a bit of a stretch though
but unfortunately everybody who had a child death gonna be coming out

remember global nicu death rates are 15%
if you have 10 babies in there,
most likely one gonna die
dunno if ours are same or higher


Just was about to say this. In intensive care you gonna have some deaths. It’s just that this is obviously way over the threshold. Media looking for everyone who had a baby who didn’t make it.

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby aaron17 » April 24th, 2024, 8:17 am

One day the covid thing will come out too..maybe 20 years tops.
The amount of ppl died due to to negligence.

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby pugboy » April 24th, 2024, 8:57 am

i know somebody who had bad stomach flu during covid
they put him in the isolation observation tent with them usually panadol
man ded next day, cause was leptospirosis
very sad since a basic course of antibiotics knocks out lepto quick

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby Habit7 » April 24th, 2024, 9:33 am

j.o.e wrote:
pugboy wrote:last year is a bit of a stretch though
but unfortunately everybody who had a child death gonna be coming out

remember global nicu death rates are 15%
if you have 10 babies in there,
most likely one gonna die
dunno if ours are same or higher


Just was about to say this. In intensive care you gonna have some deaths. It’s just that this is obviously way over the threshold. Media looking for everyone who had a baby who didn’t make it.

I won’t just say media alone but ambulance chasing lawyers as well.

Whether it is crime, LMCS divers, Andrea Bharat, Covid and other shocking deaths, there is an imperceptible line between genuine concern for loss of life and improving the system to how can I beat this drum louder to achieve my political goals.

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby sMASH » April 24th, 2024, 10:18 am

Some deaths are inevitable, and some are avoidable.

The tragedy is if they are avoidable but were not avoided.
And a modern country regards that as manslaughter




On the mud slinging side, anil riberts release the clip from the children's hospital vanity vid, where it detailed the NICU.
Thus rubbishing deyalsingh denouncement of NICU there.

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby Chimera » April 24th, 2024, 10:55 am

aaron17 wrote:One day the covid thing will come out too..maybe 20 years tops.
The amount of ppl died due to to negligence.


because of the sheer volume of people having to end up in hospital and they having to test everyone who came in for treatment before treating them

thats why they were pushing vaccines so people could stay home and get better.

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby pugboy » April 24th, 2024, 1:31 pm

terry have a pr mess on he hands now yes

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby Dohplaydat » April 24th, 2024, 1:48 pm

aaron17 wrote:One day the covid thing will come out too..maybe 20 years tops.
The amount of ppl died due to to negligence.


The amount of people die due to negligence is astonishing, even in first world hospitals.

Covid was a nightmare for hospitals which on a normal circumstance, can barely cope with the workload.

While our health staff can definitely do better, I wouldn't blame them.

I know a few people who got treated at couva and by all accounts the care delivered was pretty good.

That said, we need to drastically improve the level of care and quality in our public health facilities. This kind of thing is unacceptable.

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby aaron17 » April 24th, 2024, 1:55 pm

Importance of PPE, sanitisation at NICU


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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby aaron17 » April 24th, 2024, 2:00 pm

at 4:28 timecode
" but one important thing they do do which we tend not to do in Trinidad which I always advise is testing you know I work in a genetic testing laboratory we look for organisms as well as um genetic mutations in humans um even in animals and so on depending on what we testing for but the idea is is on to in order to be able to know what you have you have to be able to diagnose right so they take normal Thro cultures from the Unites um they sometimes even test the caregivers they test the nurses they test the eldies they test um sometimes the doctors have to be subject to tested because some people transmit um some people carry it some people are what we call Natural shutters um depending on what the bacteria is and it's usually important to to have an idea of what is present in at any given time in that particular area right um and that's really what the important thing is so it's normal bacterial infection um they're not unusual bacteria but what is unusual is the level of disease that they cause in New Bor and um they they they all pretty much they um uh you know have the same effect on the on the baby and if not treated that can eventually end in death due to um systemic septicemia and what's the what's the impact in terms of cuz clearly uh the the premature nature of the babies uh we saw that impact in real time it's it's tragic"

sorry for long quote tho

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby Mmoney607 » April 24th, 2024, 2:10 pm

We could take back the national award from Parasram as yet?

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby matr1x » April 24th, 2024, 3:13 pm

While there are plenty fantastic doctors and nurses, there are plenty bad ones.


Issues in public Healthcare have been simmering for years. Every thing from active racism to preferential treatment of foreign nurses and doctors. Some of whom, credentials have been called into question.

Horror stories during the covid vaccine administration were.a microcosm of the rot in the public Healthcare. Poor people spoke about being jabbed and treated badly. Maybe Terrance could cry about that

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby wing » April 24th, 2024, 3:17 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:We could take back the national award from Parasram as yet?
Yeah right after Kamla give back the senior counsel.

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby Habit7 » April 24th, 2024, 3:31 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:We could take back the national award from Parasram as yet?

Public Health ≠ Neonatology

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby The_Honourable » April 24th, 2024, 3:31 pm

pugboy wrote:terry have a pr mess on he hands now yes


MoH double down and say that the video wasn't fake but "inaccurate" :?

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby aaron17 » April 24th, 2024, 3:50 pm

fact checkers be checkin...

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby pugboy » April 24th, 2024, 3:53 pm

heard unc showing vids of nicu equipment

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby sMASH » April 24th, 2024, 4:03 pm

Hmmm
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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby Mmoney607 » April 24th, 2024, 4:39 pm

Habit7 wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:We could take back the national award from Parasram as yet?

Public Health ≠ Neonatology

He was dabbling in everything for covid.

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby Habit7 » April 24th, 2024, 5:58 pm

How is he relevant to this?

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby shake d livin wake d dead » April 24th, 2024, 7:14 pm

sMASH wrote:HmmmFB_IMG_1713988906788.jpg


When pigs fly....trinidad never

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby death365 » April 25th, 2024, 8:20 am

but he was out every day during covid claiming credit for the good, now that it flip around u have to take responsibility for the bad too...

and also resign! but u c tha will neva happen - he done get the nod to go back up for St. Joseph.


shake d livin wake d dead wrote:
sMASH wrote:HmmmFB_IMG_1713988906788.jpg


When pigs fly....trinidad never

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby redmanjp » April 25th, 2024, 11:31 am

wait, how we reach 18?

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Re: 18 (edit) babies die from bacterial outbreak at PoS NICU

Postby maj. tom » April 25th, 2024, 2:55 pm

The report on the first page. Claim from the lawsuit.

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