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Postby Dizzy28 » July 5th, 2017, 12:39 pm

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Postby dude2014 » July 5th, 2017, 12:50 pm

Ah rather have ah duncey hedd chile, even if is ah horn chile who I could hug up every day and love and have fun, teach him to ride a bike and grow up to marry ah gyul with ben teeth than to deal with having to look at the papers and seeing him pass for a good school ......................

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby Chimera » July 5th, 2017, 1:04 pm

them murderers must be hiding out in some forest....

i sure they gonna get gun down as soon as they come out in public

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Postby MaxPower » July 5th, 2017, 1:23 pm

Phone Surgeon wrote:them murderers must be hiding out in some forest....

i sure they gonna get gun down as soon as they come out in public


Na franklin,

Must be partying and making innocent people hide in some forest....and then gun them down infront the public..

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Postby Ben_spanna » July 6th, 2017, 9:56 am

Still cant manage to find the criminals? small a55 island, someone must know their whereabouts......... offer a good enough reward and some one will turn them in!

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Postby hydroep » July 6th, 2017, 10:12 am

The most powerful group is not affected, so this can effectively be put on the back burner.

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » July 6th, 2017, 10:32 am

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20170706 ... ee-on-bail

Were the killers of Videsh and Rose free on bail?

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Killed: Rose Mohammed and Videsh Subar

The Opposition has signaled it will not support the Bail Amendment Bill in its current form as members believe it will allow criminals to be released from prison, like the ones who allegedly killed 13 year old Videsh Subar.

Opposition members Gerald Ramdeen and Wayne Sturge expressed concerns over The Bail (Access to Bail) (Amendment) Bill, 2017 at the Senate sitting on Tuesday.

The legislation seeks to facilitate a move away from the use of property as a means of providing security for accessing bail and the introduction of the requirement for security by way of up front deposits of cash or certified cheque.

Ramdeen asked the Senate to spare a thought for the parents of Videsh Subar- Veena and Lennon Subar, whom would have been celebrating SEA results with their son had been alive.

Last Wednesday Videsh and 57 year Rose Mohammed were brutally murdered with their throats slit at Mohammed's Ajim-Baksh Trace home in Malabar. The murderers remain at large.

“If he (Videsh) was alive, he too tonight, would have been celebrating with his parents, and we should spare a through for them because this Bill that is before us today is a Bill that is supposed to improve the criminal justice system and they tonight don't have their child, 13 years old that was taken from them,” said Ramdeen.

He noted a newspaper report which stated that police had a theory that the perpetrators may have been bandits who were released from prison. He noted the report stated that Mohammed was robbed eight years ago and the criminals were held, jailed and released.

“This (double murder) has occurred, why? because people were allowed out on bail and this is what we have to reap today as the benefits of that and we are not going to support that, I cannot stand here and support that.” he said.

The Bill, he said, is not going to solve the criminal justice problems.

“This Bill has the opportunity of taking the legislative key and opening the prison gates for 839 persons in this country,” he said.

“I want to make it very clear and very plain...that this opposition is not going to support any Opposition at this time that is going to cause people to walk out of prison and continue the siege on our population, our mothers, our fathers, ur children and our youth we are not going to support that,” said Ramdeen.

Sturge also raised concern over the possibility of criminals being unleashed on society by the amendment to the Bail Bill.
“How can we as a Senate justify this sort of legislation keeping in mind what the police are saying about who are the main offenders?” he asked.

He too noted the murders of Videsh and Mohammed and was cautioned by the presiding officer.

Sturge pressed on saying the matter is not sub judice.

“Since there is no charge and given the record of the police serve there may never be a charge,” he said.

He said he has to face face people and justify passing a bill which allow in particular violent repeat offenders to be back on the street.
“We have at stake 839 prisoners who may be freed,” he said.

Sturge said further that he sympathises with first time offenders and they need to be protected from remand yard.

He noted that a person who may be imprisoned for the first time for obscene language would be taken into remand where they could be “indoctrinated into the violent culture of remand yard”.

He suggested the Bill should have some schedule to deal with different types of offenders.

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby aaron17 » July 6th, 2017, 11:56 am

Interesting developments now.

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Postby 16 cycles » July 6th, 2017, 1:59 pm

TWO men have been detained in connection with the Malabar double murders of teenager Videsh Subar and his sitter Rose Mohammed.

Police said that one suspect, in his early 20s, was detained near his home in Arima on Wednesday night.,

The other was detained around 10 a.m on Thursday.

A hunt is on for a third suspect.


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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby bluefete » July 6th, 2017, 2:07 pm

^^ FINALLY. But, as aaron17 wrote: "Interesting developments now."

All may not be as they seem.

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby Freitas21 » July 6th, 2017, 5:14 pm

Ben_spanna wrote:Still cant manage to find the criminals? small a55 island, someone must know their whereabouts......... offer a good enough reward and some one will turn them in!


i don't even see wanted people in the newspapers, notice-boards or social media....makes u wonder what they are protecting.

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby Allergic2BunnyEars » July 12th, 2017, 3:35 pm

Freitas21 wrote:
Ben_spanna wrote:Still cant manage to find the criminals? small a55 island, someone must know their whereabouts......... offer a good enough reward and some one will turn them in!


i don't even see wanted people in the newspapers, notice-boards or social media....makes u wonder what they are protecting.


Relative of Rose in custody: Land dispute link to grisly murders

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20170712 ... ly-murders

A MALE relative of Rose Mohammed who was killed at her Malabar home along with her 13-year-old neighbour Videsh Subar, has been arrested in connection with the killings.

The 54-year-old man was detained near where the brutal killings occurred on June 28.

The man's attorney, Fareed Ali, claimed that a formal statement was taken from the him (suspect) before he was allowed access to a lawyer.

A 25-year-old man of Sangre Grande also remains in police custody for the killings.

Two other suspects - a 19-year-old man of Mt D'or and a 24-year-old man of Arima - were released from custody yesterday at around 6.50 p.m.

Mohammed, 57, and Videsh Subar, 13, were found dead in a bedroom at her home at Ajim Baksh Trace.

They had been tied up and their throats slit.

Police said the house had been ransacked and robbed, but are also exploring another motive for the killings.

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby Monkey Man » July 12th, 2017, 3:42 pm

inserting turn of events

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby maj. tom » July 12th, 2017, 4:00 pm

Alas there will be no real punishment or justice without the hangman. This wasn't a common crime or even a "routine murder in Trinidad."

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Postby RASC » July 12th, 2017, 6:20 pm

Always knew there was something more to this...

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby matr1x » July 12th, 2017, 6:28 pm

Need to hang them by the thumbs

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby TheBoostLord » July 12th, 2017, 6:37 pm

http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20170712/news/malabar-double-murder-suspect-shot-dead-by-cops

Malabar double murder suspect shot dead by cops
'Sausage' was killed in Couva


A MAN who police said was a suspect in the double murders of 13 year old Videsh Subar and his sitter Rose Mohammed was killed by officers on Wednesday.

Kendall “Sausage” Garcia, 23, bled to death after he was shot twice in the chest, an autopsy concluded.

Police said that Garcia was one of four men involved in a robbery at Orange Valley, Couva at 4 a.m.

Police said that officers of the Central Division Task Force responded and confronted four men – two with firearms.

The assailants ran, and police held three men.

Police said that they chased the fourth man.

The fourth man fired at them and the officers returned fire, police said.

He was struck and officers took him to the Chaguanas District Health Facility where he was pronounced dead.

Officers said a loaded Glock pistol was recovered at the scene.

Police said that Garcia was also wanted in connection with other killings.






Is it just me or does it seem like police have stepped their game up recently? Most of the recently reported crimes ended with suspects being caught or killed.

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby TheBoostLord » July 12th, 2017, 6:41 pm

cnc3 has a different version though.


Man shot dead by police was suspect in Malabar murders

http://www.cnc3.co.tt/press-release/man ... ar-murders

A former suspect in the Malabar double murder has been killed in a shootout with officers of the Central Division Task Force.

Reports indicate that around 4 am today, the officers were on patrol in the Enterprise area when they observed a man acting suspiciously, they attempted to question the man when he whipped out a gun and opened fire.

Police say there was an exchange of bullets and that shortly after, the man was seen lying in a pool of blood.

The man has been identified as Kendell Garcia, also known as, 'Sausage'.

Investigations are ongoing.

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Postby matix » July 12th, 2017, 6:58 pm

Doesn't matter, once they get rid of them.

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby matr1x » July 12th, 2017, 10:01 pm

In the ground with the roaches

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby fouljuice » July 13th, 2017, 3:29 am

Heard someone say that he got his nickname from his extreme love of other man's sausage.

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Postby 16 cycles » July 13th, 2017, 6:28 am

Police said that Garcia was also wanted in connection with other killings.


need to have a better system ...

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby greggle71 » July 13th, 2017, 8:44 am

So if we are to believe the reports so far, Mr Sausage, just released from police custody in less than 24 hours was part of a robbery gone bad? Dem men don't waste time at all. I'm sure he was under surveillance subsequent to being released. Ah well.

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Postby nemisis » July 13th, 2017, 9:32 am

Can't solve hi profile crime? Public outcry incoming?

For those annoying cases the Detective manual on how to avoid beating the streets suggest the old "dead men tell no tale" stratergy.

What you do is find some individual whom has been involved and known to have been involved in questionable activities, kill them "important part here can't have them providing alibi", and then saying that they were the most prevalent suspect in that annoying crime people not forgetting after 3 days.

Return to office and profit off a job well done...

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Re: Son and sitter killed in robbery

Postby hydroep » July 13th, 2017, 9:53 am

Not sure about this nuh. Seems like information is being leaked and certain actions being taken just to show the public they're doing something.

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Postby racedriverpro » July 13th, 2017, 3:31 pm

nemisis wrote:Can't solve hi profile crime? Public outcry incoming?

For those annoying cases the Detective manual on how to avoid beating the streets suggest the old "dead men tell no tale" stratergy.

What you do is find some individual whom has been involved and known to have been involved in questionable activities, kill them "important part here can't have them providing alibi", and then saying that they were the most prevalent suspect in that annoying crime people not forgetting after 3 days.

Return to office and profit off a job well done...

Exactly....hearing they kill a suspect should mean case closed.

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Postby maj. tom » July 18th, 2017, 5:26 am

BROTHER CHARGED *
Murder of Malabar caregiver and 13-year-old boy...

The younger brother of Haffiza Rose Mohammed, 56, yesterday appeared before an Arima magistrate charged with her murder as well as that of her 13-year-old neighbour, Videsh Subar.

Solomon Baksh, of Ajim Baksh Trace, Malabar, stood in silence as he appeared before Senior Magistrate Gillian David Scotland at the Arima Magistrates' First Court. Baksh, police said, lived next door to his sister.

Wayne Liverpool, 25, of Sangre Grande, is jointly charged with the two murders.

The two accused were also charged with ten offences of robbery.

It was alleged that they stole an estimated TT$30,000 in cash and valuables, which included a cellular phone, a Milwaukee jack-hammer, a DeWalt hammer drill, a Milwaukee drill kit with pliers, a 32-inch LG flat-screen television, a double link gold chain, a spring-shape gold ring, TT$10,000 in cash, US$900 in cash, and a national identification card.
http://www.trinidadexpress.com/20170717 ... ble-murder

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Postby maj. tom » July 18th, 2017, 5:26 am

Brother, accomplice charged with Malabar double murder

The lawyer representing the two men charged with the grisly Malabar double murder is confident that the case against his clients would be over before it gets to a judge and jury.

Fareed Ali made the bold claim as Solomon Baksh, 54 and Wayne Liverpool, 25, appeared in the Arima Magistrates Court charged with two offences of murder and robbery with aggravation.

Baksh, the younger brother of murder victim Haffiza Rose Mohammed, appeared dishevelled. He squeezed his fingers together as the charges laid by PC Danny Moonsammy of the Homicide Bureau were read to him by Magistrate Gillian Scotland.

His co-accused, Liverpool, unemployed, of North Eastern Settlement, Ojoe Road, Sangre Grande complained through his attorney of pain to his chest, back and legs.

Mohammed, 56, and her neighbour 13-year-old schoolboy Videsh Subar, were both found bound, with their throats slit at Mohammed’s Ajim Baksh Trace, Malabar, Arima home on June 28. Mohammed was the caretaker of Subar since he was a baby.

Baksh also lived at the same house.

Baksh, dressed in blue and yellow jersey, multi-coloured checkered three-quarters pants, with rubber slippers on his feet, and Liverpool dressed in orange jersey, blue jeans looked confused as Scotland read the charges.

They are accused of robbing the victims of cellphones, power tools, a flat-screen television, TT$10,000, US$900, jewelry among other items.

Both men were remanded into custody at the Golden Grove Prison, Arouca and are scheduled to return to court on August 14.

http://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2017-07- ... ble-murder

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Postby maj. tom » July 18th, 2017, 5:27 am

Man in court for killing sister, teenager

DARCEL CHOY Tuesday, July 18 2017

SOLOMON Baksh was among hundreds of mourners at the funeral for Hafeeza ‘Rose’ Mohammed, who together with her neighbour Videsh Subar, 13, were found with their throats slit inside Mohammed’s Malabar home on June 28. Yesterday, Baksh, 54, and another man stood before an Arima magistrate charged for the murders of Mohammed and young Videsh.

Baksh was jointly charged with 25-year-old Wayne Liverpool of Sangre Grande and both men appeared before Senior Magistrate Gillian David-Scotland in the First Court. In addition to murder, the men were also charged with robbery.

Magistrate David-Scotland listed several items which included a cell phone, a red Milwaukee jack hammer valued $4,000, a yellow DeWalt hammer drill valued $6,000, a Milwaukee drill kit with pliers valued $2,000, a 32 inch LG flat screen television valued $2,000, a double link gold chain and gold ring and Mohammed’s national identification card valued at $50.

It is alleged that the men also stole TT$10,000 and US$900.

The charges were laid indictably and both men were not called upon to plead. The men were represented by defence attorney Fareed Ali. The attorney in court yesterday told Magistrate David- Scotland that Liverpool complained that he was beaten by police and needed to seek medical attention.

Ali said his client complained of pains to his head, torso, lower back and wrists. Magistrate David-Scotland said she would make a note that Liverpool be seen by the prison doctor. She later adjourned the matter to August 14. The men were remanded to the Golden Grove Prison, Arouca.

Outside the court, attorney Ali expressed his disappointment with the way the police handled this matter. He said the failure of the Office of the Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) to get convictions is partly due to the way police handle investigations.

“The police deal with suspects so badly and it is so sad to see that things have not changed and they (the police) appear to be a law upon themselves. It is my view that Acting Commissioner of Police Stephen Williams needs to examine and put training in place because if they keep repeating the same mistakes how are things going to change?” The investigations into the murders continue as three other suspects remain in police custody and are expected to be placed in identification parades.

On June 28, Mohammed’s husband returned to his Ajim Baksh Trace, Malabar home at 11 am to find Videsh’s body in the kitchen.

He later found wife Mohammed’s body in a bedroom. Both were bound, gagged and had their throats slit.


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