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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby UML » May 6th, 2015, 4:40 am

Yuh hear LIE?.....DAT IS LIE!!!

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I distinctly remember Dr Rowley saying he did not have any. If it was the PPG the PNM would be calling for his removal :roll:
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Postby rfari » May 6th, 2015, 7:47 am

UML wrote:Yuh hear LIE?.....DAT IS LIE!!!

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I distinctly remember Dr Rowley saying he did not have any. If it was the PPG the PNM would be calling for his removal :roll:
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Yes. I remember growley saying that. What his punishment should be?

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby Habit7 » May 6th, 2015, 7:52 am

Isn't the greater offence the fact that Dr. Moonilal wrongly accused Dr. Rowley of failing to declare the apartment, which is a criminal violation? That is why Dr. Rowley is challenging him to repeat it outside parliament?

Wrongful accusations, the very reason they want to censure Dr. Rowley.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby rfari » May 6th, 2015, 7:58 am

Ah yes. True habit but u not facilitating the straw grasping philosophy aren't you?

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby eliteauto » May 6th, 2015, 10:01 am

UML what is your position on a man getting $34 M for nothing and no attempts being made to recover it?

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby De Dragon » May 7th, 2015, 6:05 pm

Habit7 wrote:Isn't the greater offence the fact that Dr. Moonilal wrongly accused Dr. Rowley of failing to declare the apartment, which is a criminal violation? That is why Dr. Rowley is challenging him to repeat it outside parliament?

Wrongful accusations, the very reason they want to censure Dr. Rowley.

Oh the irony! :lol: :lol:

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby UML » May 8th, 2015, 7:58 am

Two years after Emailgate revelations: Rowley censured

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Thursday, May 7, 2015


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Opposition MPs respond to heckling during their walkout of Parliament over a censure motion against Opposition Leader Dr Keith Rowley. PhotoS: jeff mayers


Approximately six weeks before the end of the Parliamentary term, Opposition People’s National Movement (PNM) leader Dr Keith Rowley was last night suspended from the Parliament’s service for the rest of the term, via majority Government vote. Independent Liberal Party (ILP) MP Jack Warner was the lone voice voting against the historic move, in the face of 24 People’s Partnership (PP) votes in favour of suspending Rowley.

The situation has prompted the PNM to call an emergency general council meeting at Balisier House, Port-of-Spain, at 3 pm today, the party said last night. House Speaker Wade Mark announced the results of the vote at 9.15 pm following the debate, which began at 1.30 pm yesterday on Government’s motion of censure against Rowley — and the bid to suspend him over the presentation of e-mails which he had made in May 2013.

Two years after the event, Mark last night said, “Diego Martin West MP and leader of the Opposition, Dr Keith Rowley, is suspended from the service of this House for the remainder of the term, approved by majority vote of the House.” The e-mails alleged that Prime Minister Kamla Persad-Bissessar and senior members of her Cabinet were involved in a multi-pronged “conspiracy” on the Section 34 issue, including a plot to “harm” a reporter and bug the office of the Director of Public Prosecutions.

The Parliamentary term ends on June 17. PP House leader Dr Roodal Moonilal, in concluding debate, declared,“This is a landmark day...If you lie you must also say goodbye — he (Rowley) is the maker of his own destiny.” None of the 11 PNM MPs, who had been present earlier when debate began, were present for the vote, since they had walked out of the Parliament chamber just before 4 pm after PNM’s Colm Imbert had spoken against the motion. Other MPs Patrick Manning and Joanne Thomas were absent from the session.

Moonilal, who earlier presented a number of opinions from local and international experts who had adjudged the e-mails as fake, said the PP would take the issue to the public — from next week in Diego Martin — and the national community must judge Rowley. He said Rowley would have to defend himself.

“The truth will chase him all over ... PNM Tobago Leader Orville London had said that at the end of this issue there would be one man or woman left standing and there is indeed one woman left standing tonight — but he’s (Rowley) not here, he left kicking and screaming as if he knew this would be the last time he’d be in Parliament,” Moonilal added. Rather than defend Rowley, he said PNM MPs had left the chamber and gone to the Parliament snack hall.

Moonilal reminded Warner that Rowley’s first act as Opposition Leader was to call for the Prime Minister to remove him (Warner) from Cabinet due his international issues with FIFA and that the PM and the Cabinet had supported Warner. He called on the national community to consider what Rowley would do as prime minister if people disagreed with his policies and how he would handle criticism, which is a daily part of a prime minister’s life.

“Will he flee to the golf course? It’s a poor sign of leadership - fleeing. In leaving the Parliament, which was a disrespect to the Parliament and the people who elected MPs to debate issues in the Parliament, he stood by the e-mails,” Moonilal said.

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Persad-Bissessar, who spoke just before debate ended, said Imbert had not defended Rowley on the email issue. She outlined Parliament regulations regarding the motion, saying the PP had given the PNM ample notice. She noted that former United National Congress leader Basdeo Panday and UNC MP Chandresh Sharma had both been suspended from the Parliament without procedural fairness.

She said the Government had shown there was no truth in the fake emails and detailed police findings on some aspects of the alleged emails. This included a police report that confirmed there was no bugging device in the DPP’s office. PP MP Tim Gopeesingh, in debate, called for Rowley to resign as Opposition leader and from the Diego Martin West seat also. He warned the public that the PNM would put a flood of misinformation into the public domain from now.

Absent for the vote were PP MPs Winston Dookeran and Carolyn Seepersad-Bachan. The former was absent for the day and the latter had attended earlier, but wasn’t there for the vote. Parliament continues tomorrow at 1.30 pm.
https://www.guardian.co.tt/news/2015-05 ... y-censured


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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby rspann » May 8th, 2015, 9:54 pm

Something I wondering, when the PP put up billboards for Kamla to wish TnT a merry christmas, everybody was upset and even someone in highways or planning(can't remember who) said it was illegal. I seeing Growley face on billboards on the side of the road in Carenage,but nobody talking about that.
The best joke is that for the last five years Growley only attacking everybody but not once in Parliament I ever hear him say anything on behalf of his constituents.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby 1UZFE » May 9th, 2015, 10:29 am

rspann wrote:Something I wondering, when the PP put up billboards for Kamla to wish TnT a merry christmas, everybody was upset and even someone in highways or planning(can't remember who) said it was illegal. I seeing Growley face on billboards on the side of the road in Carenage,but nobody talking about that.
The best joke is that for the last five years Growley only attacking everybody but not once in Parliament I ever hear him say anything on behalf of his constituents.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby Lance » May 9th, 2015, 10:51 am

rspann wrote:Something I wondering, when the PP put up billboards for Kamla to wish TnT a merry christmas, everybody was upset and even someone in highways or planning(can't remember who) said it was illegal. I seeing Growley face on billboards on the side of the road in Carenage,but nobody talking about that.
The best joke is that for the last five years Growley only attacking everybody but not once in Parliament I ever hear him say anything on behalf of his constituents.


I missed the part where you factored in the funding source.

Perhaps an issue might be that one was funded with public funds and the other wasn't?

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby rspann » May 9th, 2015, 1:21 pm

I know the funding was a problem, I talking about the issue of putting up the billboards . People was talking about the illegality, the distraction etc. Why the double standard?

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby Habit7 » May 9th, 2015, 1:25 pm

rspann wrote:I know the funding was a problem, I talking about the issue of putting up the billboards . People was talking about the illegality, the distraction etc. Why the double standard?
what is the official standard before you claim there is a double standard?

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby rspann » May 9th, 2015, 1:26 pm

Habit, that is three times in five years. That is why his own constituency is not concerned about him being expelled.

I now come back from Chag . The march turned out to be a bust. Supporters from all over and even OWTU and Kirk Waithe ,but all in all a very small crowd. The protest was supposed to be for the lands but the placards were about other things .

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby rspann » May 9th, 2015, 1:30 pm

Habit7 wrote:
rspann wrote:I know the funding was a problem, I talking about the issue of putting up the billboards . People was talking about the illegality, the distraction etc. Why the double standard?
what is the official standard before you claim there is a double standard?


The standard is that you are not supposed to place billboards at the side of the roadways. The PP was wrong then , the PNM is wrong now. My point is that there was real opposition when they did it for Christmas ,why is nobody seeing anything wrong now?

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby rspann » May 9th, 2015, 1:59 pm

The dictatorship getting strong now,nobody have a say in anything in the party again. They bring a man nobody knows and foist him on San Juan, same thing with Amery and Penny. Hypolite would have won again too. Why is everybody being replaced with who The Captain wants?Does he want to form a cabal with no opposition? I feel we might as well leave the PP there.

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Postby Rory Phoulorie » May 9th, 2015, 2:00 pm

rspann wrote:The standard is that you are not supposed to place billboards at the side of the roadways. The PP was wrong then , the PNM is wrong now. My point is that there was real opposition when they did it for Christmas ,why is nobody seeing anything wrong now?

The standard is private entities are not to erect billboards on land allocated to road/river reserves, that is, State land.

Are the Rowley billboards on State land? Yes or no.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby UML » May 9th, 2015, 3:43 pm

UML wrote:Yuh hear LIE?.....DAT IS LIE!!!

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby eliteauto » May 9th, 2015, 4:07 pm

Wade Mark's legacy is complete

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby shogun » May 9th, 2015, 5:30 pm

eliteauto wrote:Wade Mark's legacy is complete


The disparity in how he demands silence from opposition members during contributions in parliament vs how lenient he is with Gov't ministers is a thing to behold sometimes. His disappointing performance during Colm Imbert's contribution to this Rowley censuring matter was so glaring it wasn't even funny. I don't think he gives a sh!t how partisan he comes across. That line isn't going to toe itself, i guess.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby Habit7 » May 9th, 2015, 5:55 pm

I love how Wade Mark smiles from ear to ear at the perversion of the nation's parliament at his hand.




Dr. Rowley is in for a rough ride. If he does become PM he will have a tough job as the PP has planted the seeds of hatred and animosity against this man for the novel idea of him doing his job. He would not have the luxury of claiming he "was advised" or firing his hand picked ministers. Every malady will fall entirely in his shoulders and ppl will cry murder for any little thing that goes wrong.

However, in a sense I dont mind. I hope because of this he lifts the standard of governance help us not compromise "performance" for corruption.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby pugboy » May 9th, 2015, 6:57 pm

they should ask rowleys about the the 2 apts in renaissance towers shorelands

the suspension as panday say is a bad precedent, any govt with simple majority can rule like a dictator and put out anybody they feel from parliament

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby Habit7 » May 9th, 2015, 7:04 pm

Panday was suspended by the Speaker, not the govt.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby pugboy » May 9th, 2015, 7:16 pm

so where the speaker does come from.........

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby Habit7 » May 9th, 2015, 7:36 pm

Doesnt matter, the two events are not the same.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby pugboy » May 9th, 2015, 9:08 pm

You misread my initial post, nfc

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby kjaglal76v2 » May 9th, 2015, 9:54 pm

1UZFE wrote:
rspann wrote:Something I wondering, when the PP put up billboards for Kamla to wish TnT a merry christmas, everybody was upset and even someone in highways or planning(can't remember who) said it was illegal. I seeing Growley face on billboards on the side of the road in Carenage,but nobody talking about that.
The best joke is that for the last five years Growley only attacking everybody but not once in Parliament I ever hear him say anything on behalf of his constituents.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby De Dragon » May 9th, 2015, 10:21 pm

Habit7 wrote:I love how Wade Mark smiles from ear to ear at the perversion of the nation's parliament at his hand.




Dr. Rowley is in for a rough ride. If he does become PM he will have a tough job as the PP has planted the seeds of hatred and animosity against this man for the novel idea of him doing his job. He would not have the luxury of claiming he "was advised" or firing his hand picked ministers. Every malady will fall entirely in his shoulders and ppl will cry murder for any little thing that goes wrong.

However, in a sense I dont mind. I hope because of this he lifts the standard of governance help us not compromise "performance" for corruption.

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Re: No Dr. Rowley

Postby UML » May 10th, 2015, 9:22 pm

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look like the march buss!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

#bussments

Ricardo Welch
Sunday 10th May 2015
By Ricardo "Gladiator" Welch

PNM SUPPORTERS BLANK ROWLEY's MARCH TO CHAGUARAMAS

Yesterday's (Saturday) PNM march to Chaguaramas flopped. Less than a thousand PNM supporters turned up. Though the march was being led by Dr Keith Rowley it fell flat on his face since he failed to attract a large turnout. Only recently the constituents of Diego Martin West expressed growing concerns over the non-performance of their MP, Rowley who has not represented the area effectively and efficiently since 1991. Not even Jack Warner could of bring out 30 persons to support Rowley.

From early yesterday morning PNM activist called organizers complaining that many PNM supporters are blanking the Maxis and buses and were not interested in coming out to support any march to Chaguaramas with its leader. Rowley, who is losing credibility day by day, is now deemed to be a reckless leader as a direct result of his "Rowleygate" or "Emailgate" scam which is a big scandal, in which, he was recently suspended from Parliament for lies, half truths and innuendos. He has even failed to attract the famous PNM "Red-Army" that normally comes out in their thousands. At the end of the day those who turn up left totally disappointed. Some even cuss-up very stink the PNM organizers for not doing enough to bring out the masses but that was only after they eat chicken pelau and had a few spirits.
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Re: No Dr. Rowley

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UML wrote:Just posting this here 8-)

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