COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[maj. tom]

Italy has a lot of experience with the Black Death plague several times in history wiping out more 1/4 of their population. Some historians believe up to 80% of the population at times in Italy.

They have that cultural memory embedded in each citizen.

[sMASH]

they did that because they had to, like china. it hitting hard and fast, so they stepped up protocols.

someone said that CDC is requiring a travel history for every one boarding an american flight. that is significantly more difficult than posting barriers and police by a road way to prevent entry.



its more than likely that its already here in trinidad, but becuase it cant tolerate temps above 30c and less so as it gets higher, that its not getting propagated well.

so, god might very well be a trini.

[maj. tom]

well the sheit pot stirring up here gently eh? For all those who don't want to know that the virus here here some time now.

Canada says covid19 case from Trinidad and Tobago
A Canadian who returned from Trinidad and Tobago recently has tested positive for coronavirus.

A Canadian who returned from Trinidad and Tobago recently has tested positive for coronavirus.

At a press conference on Monday, Alberta's chief medical officer Dr Deena Hinshaw said the number of confirmed cases of covid19 in the province had doubled to 14. She said all of the cases were travel-related.

She named TT as one of 11 destinations that patients had visited.

The others were France, the Netherlands, Egypt, Iran, Taiwan, Germany, Malaysia, Panama, the Philippines, and the US.

Hinshaw said many of the travellers had visited more than one country during their trip and so could not say where each patient may have contracted the virus.

She added that one of the people who tested positive had travelled in the Caribbean on the cruise ship the MS Braemar.

That cruise ship docked in Port Royal, Jamaica.
https://newsday.co.tt/2020/03/10/canada ... nd-tobago/

[Miktay]

From them Aussies down under...

Amid coronavirus panic, Australian newspaper prints extra pages because of toilet paper shortage.

https://www.foxnews.com/world/coronavir ... ilet-paper

[RedVEVO]

New York Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo took the country's most drastic steps .. what he called a "containment zone" for two weeks will keep about half the city's 10,500 students at home and will allow the National Guard to sanitize public spaces.

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/northamerica/ ... li=AABYAMs

[Monk BANzai]

currently.... audio lil sketchy...but good updates at this session.....112 beds alone is woefully inept....6 isolation rooms at couva...woefully...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujpsJ7Y ... e=youtu.be

[2WNBoost]

Be realistic people.
No country will have adequate hospital beds to care for patients in the event of an epidemic / pandemic.
Remember also treating someone for this virus will take away resources for treating other illnesses. Choices will have to be made which illnesses and patients are treated. Doctors, nurses, hospital beds, etc will be allocated based on a triage model.
The wider the spread, the more resources will be consumed, until the health care system becomes overwhelmed.

[Monk BANzai]

Be realistic people.
No country will have adequate hospital beds to care for patients in the event of an epidemic / pandemic.
Remember also treating someone for this virus will take away resources for treating other illnesses, eg doctors, nurses, hospital beds, etc
The wider the spread the more resources consumed until the health care system becomes overwhelmed.

i have no issues with this...the risk assessment..evn at the lower threshold.....112 beds does not even scratch it's lower levels..

This session is showing up some real lack of control over this....you have AATT chairman saying that "they are just the landlords"....smh....

Question: why was there not a center set up in Tobago rather than have the govt transported to Trinidad?

[Chimera]

China did that since the beginning. Suspended mortgage payments

Italy made of the greatest moves I have ever seen regarding this virus : don't pay any mortgages during the coronavirus lock down...........dammmmmmm

[Ben_spanna]

government might have to look for some empty building to house patients in isolation- somewhere that wont be used any time soon- omg- what a coincidence theres that large Building on the corner in Woodbrook !

[sMASH]

isoaltion is kinda simple. the biggest problem we have, is detection, and isolation of undiagnosed cases from regular people. in that, if people go to the hospital, unscreened people who are infected can readily infect others who arent infected.

[Monk BANzai]

this dude tho...... stand up strong against all attacks from the committee... most knowledagable on in the room.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Coronavirus confirmed as pandemic by World Health Organization
March 11th 2020

The coronavirus outbreak has been labelled a pandemic by the World Health Organization (WHO).

WHO chief Dr Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the number of cases outside China had increased 13-fold over the past two weeks.

He said he was "deeply concerned" by "alarming levels of inaction" over the virus.

A pandemic is a disease that is spreading in multiple countries around the world at the same time.

However Dr Tedros said that calling the outbreak a pandemic did not mean the WHO was changing its advice about what countries should do.

He called on governments to change the course of the outbreak by taking "urgent and aggressive action".

"Several countries have demonstrated that this virus can be suppressed and controlled," he said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51839944

"The challenge for many countries who are now dealing with large clusters or community transmission is not whether they can do the same - it's whether they will."

Governments had to "strike a fine balance between protecting health, minimising disruption and respecting human life".

"We're in this together to do the right things with calm and protect the citizens of the world. It's doable," he said.

[redmanjp]

[hydroep]

Yunno, one of the reasons they suspect this thing spreading so fast is that there is a high rate of asymptomatic shedding. Seems like a statement designed to avoid panic rather than one based in reality...

“Even if they would have passed through Trinidad in the recent past they would have probably not have symptoms at the time because you usually can’t board an airplane with symptoms. So the chance of transmitting is extremely low, if not nil,” Parasram explained.

https://trinidadexpress.com/news/local/t-t-contacts-canada-over-covid--patient/article_46b76e5c-63bf-11ea-851f-e3d7abf454e6.html

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

[teems1]

Just came back from Pricesmart. People buying toilet paper and Lysol spray like crazy.

I didn't even intend to stock up on tp but after seeing the demand for it I bought some thinking there might be a possible shortage.

Clear case of making the problem worse but still better safe than sorry.

[FrankChag]

[wickedtuna]

Are there any articles on re infection? Any cases like that ?

[Dohplaydat]

Are there any articles on re infection? Any cases like that ?

Only one but the jury is still out on whether it was a relapse or a false positive on either test. Seems like a one time thing for 99% of people so far.

[Coppershot]

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3074469/coronavirus-south-korea-cuts-infection-rate-without

Coronavirus: South Korea’s infection rate falls without citywide lockdowns like China, Italy
South Korea had 7,513 Covid-19 cases as of Monday, with daily infections falling for a fourth consecutive day
Officials attribute the decrease to mass testing, improved public communication and the use of advanced technology

[K74T]

[redmanjp]

Aggressive action to detect, test, isolate early before it turns into an outbreak is the best course of action, rather than wait till an outbreak where u can't trace anything anymore. With over 100 countries having cases we should really be testing all persons traveling into the country, at least where there's cases involving community transmission. Perhaps impose an arrival tax to cover the cost. If you living under a rock for the past few weeks and still insist on traveling and potentially bring in a dangerous virus to a small island state like ours which could wreal havoc with our health system and economy then pay it.

We need to do lile South Korea and implement mass testing.

[fokhan_96]

I confused, why toilet paper?

Just came back from Pricesmart. People buying toilet paper and Lysol spray like crazy.

I didn't even intend to stock up on tp but after seeing the demand for it I bought some thinking there might be a possible shortage.

Clear case of making the problem worse but still better safe than sorry.

[screwbash]

I was speaking to a person who works at Pricesmart – one of our large wholesalers – and she said a man came in and bought 50 palettes of hand sanitizers, each palette had about 300 units each. She also said, it was like there was a hurricane on the way how persons were buying this weekend."

300x$10 is $3000x50cases=$150000. dat man hadda be reselling that. unless he gonna bathe in that. i wonder how he pay for dat

[screwbash]

I confused, why toilet paper?

Just came back from Pricesmart. People buying toilet paper and Lysol spray like crazy.

I didn't even intend to stock up on tp but after seeing the demand for it I bought some thinking there might be a possible shortage.

Clear case of making the problem worse but still better safe than sorry.

part of the symptoms of the corona virus is Diarrhoea so if they get it they will need the stock.

The most detailed breakdown of symptoms of the disease comes from a recent World Health Organization analysis of more than 55,000 confirmed cases in China. Here are the most common symptoms and the percentage of people who had them:

Fever: 88%
Dry cough: 68%
Fatigue: 38%
Coughing up sputum, or thick phlegm, from the lungs: 33%
Shortness of breath: 19%
Bone or joint pain: 15%
Sore throat: 14%
Headache: 14%
Chills: 11%
Nausea or vomiting: 5%
Stuffy nose: 5%
Diarrhea: 4%
Coughing up blood: 1%
Swollen eyes: 1%
COVID-19 is a lower respiratory tract infection, which means that most of the symptoms are felt in the chest and lungs. That’s different from colds that bring on an upper respiratory tract infection, where you get a runny nose and sinus congestion. Those symptoms seem to be mostly absent for people with COVID-19, though they’re not unheard of.

[Gladiator]

Just came from Pricesmart ... Lots of toilet paper buying. People does real think bout dey bum bum

Also almost all carts had canned foods, crix, lysol, bleach, bottle water... trinis much smarter than their govt!!!

[screwbash]

lysol is 50% alcohol and that is not enof to kill corona. shud be 60% or more. wasting money.better to buy bleach.

[paid_influencer]

i was checking to buy crix, but the expiration date too short. like 6 months from date of production. not good for long term, unless you does real eat crix anyway.

[redmanjp]

lysol is 50% alcohol and that is not enof to kill corona. shud be 60% or more. wasting money.better to buy bleach.

the spray should be enough.

https://www.lysol.com/healthy-home/understanding-coronavirus/

the 60% alcohol requirement is only for hand sanitizer, not so?