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agent007 wrote:KJR, maybe I’m not understanding the way how you put it but based on how I interpret the sentence, it’s drawing reference to the hybrid vehicle’s total combined power output and not simply adding the output of the motor and engine to derive a figure. The Aqua/Sienta/Axio/Fielder Hybrids have 99hp which is lower than the 105hp or 78kW. “typical” value suggested.
Stuff like the Prius, Prius alpha, Corolla cross hybrid, RAV4 hybrid, Camry hybrid, pretty much all Lexus hybrids, Accord hybrid, Serena s hybrid, Xtrail hybrid, Axela hybrid, outlander phev, XV hybrid, 330e, x5 40e, c350e, e350e, xc40 recharge, xc60/XC90 hybrids, gle450/gls450, panamera and cayenne hybrids etc pass 1600cc and are in the 1.8/2.0/2.5/3.0 bracket with combined values surpassing 105hp or 78KW.
But then again the C180, Yaris Cross, Vezel, Note ePower, Fit, Niro and Ioniq hybrids all pass 105hp too despite sticking to 1.2/1.5/1.6. We just need more clarification from the state which I presume will be cleared up next month.
If they plan this properly, ALL dealerships could get to eat some food and all segments of income earners can pay less for what suits them.
.“What he has done is to throw out some figures on capacity, but we cannot get vehicles that conform to that capacity. There is no vehicle that we can get with that combined kilowatt that he spoke about. He is confusing the population. Citizens are thinking that they will get exemption up to 1600 cc, the problem is that we can’t get any vehicles in that category
Isn't it amazing that the government continues to increase gasoline hoping for a miracle of some sort, causing a domino effect on the prices of all goods and services,but are adamant that if they increase the salaries of the working class, inflation would rise and there'll be retrenchment in the public sector.RedVEVO wrote:^^
Why the beat up with gas and diesel price ?
Why do you complain ? Can you do without gas ?
Can you control the price ? So hush ya ..
Everybody knew was inevitable and a certainty .
T&T Peeps price is sooooooooo LOW as compared to the US and Europe .
Tomorrow fill up and enjoy it's cheapness until April 19 ..
Darn sufferers !!
hover11 wrote:Isn't it amazing that the government continues to increase gasoline hoping for a miracle of some sort, causing a domino effect on the prices of all goods and services,but are adamant that if they increase the salaries of the working class, inflation would rise and there'll be retrenchment in the public sector.RedVEVO wrote:^^
Why the beat up with gas and diesel price ?
Why do you complain ? Can you do without gas ?
Can you control the price ? So hush ya ..
Everybody knew was inevitable and a certainty .
T&T Peeps price is sooooooooo LOW as compared to the US and Europe .
Tomorrow fill up and enjoy it's cheapness until April 19 ..
Darn sufferers !!
But this same government raised the salaries of ministers and the pensions of the two heads of state and took away the allowances of certain members of the public sector.
THAT IS PERFORMANCE, red supporters beat their chests
agent007 wrote:KJR, the NHP10 Aqua/Priuc C is rated at 99hp. In calculating it's net output, we do not combine the ICE + Electric Motor figures.
The newer Aqua 11 released in Japan got a marginal power increase so maybe you're referring to that one.
Research it again bro, the first gen Aqua does not have 120hp lol.
But thanks for the explanation otherwise.
agent007 wrote:KJR, the NHP10 Aqua/Priuc C is rated at 99hp. In calculating it's net output, we do not combine the ICE + Electric Motor figures.
The newer Aqua 11 released in Japan got a marginal power increase so maybe you're referring to that one.
Research it again bro, the first gen Aqua does not have 120hp from the 1NZ-FXE. That's impossible because that is the Atkinson cycle equivalent to the Ottocycle 1NZ-FE which still doesn't have 120hp.
"1NZ-FXE engine produces 54 kW (73 hp) and the HSD motor is rated at 45 kW (60 hp). Total output is rated at 74 kW (99 hp)".
Notice they didn't combine both to arrive at 133hp. It doesn't work that way.
But thanks for the explanation otherwise.
RedVEVO wrote:hover11 wrote:Isn't it amazing that the government continues to increase gasoline hoping for a miracle of some sort, causing a domino effect on the prices of all goods and services,but are adamant that if they increase the salaries of the working class, inflation would rise and there'll be retrenchment in the public sector.RedVEVO wrote:^^
Why the beat up with gas and diesel price ?
Why do you complain ? Can you do without gas ?
Can you control the price ? So hush ya ..
Everybody knew was inevitable and a certainty .
T&T Peeps price is sooooooooo LOW as compared to the US and Europe .
Tomorrow fill up and enjoy it's cheapness until April 19 ..
Darn sufferers !!
But this same government raised the salaries of ministers and the pensions of the two heads of state and took away the allowances of certain members of the public sector.
THAT IS PERFORMANCE, red supporters beat their chests
So do something about it !
Minsters happy with their perks and power ..
It's YOU who suffering ..
OK time for lunch ..
It's HUGE !!
The SAE uses nominal total Hp. Toyota rates their hybrid vehicles' power outputs differently from most other OEMs.K_J_R wrote:agent007 wrote:KJR, the NHP10 Aqua/Priuc C is rated at 99hp. In calculating it's net output, we do not combine the ICE + Electric Motor figures.
The newer Aqua 11 released in Japan got a marginal power increase so maybe you're referring to that one.
Research it again bro, the first gen Aqua does not have 120hp from the 1NZ-FXE. That's impossible because that is the Atkinson cycle equivalent to the Ottocycle 1NZ-FE which still doesn't have 120hp.
"1NZ-FXE engine produces 54 kW (73 hp) and the HSD motor is rated at 45 kW (60 hp). Total output is rated at 74 kW (99 hp)".
Notice they didn't combine both to arrive at 133hp. It doesn't work that way.
But thanks for the explanation otherwise.
no. I'm referring to the common 2014+ Aqua.
can you share that link you got your figures from?
either way, the f-used car dealers are saying the aqua (nor any car currently imprted) will meet the minister spec for exemption. and by virtue of electric rating only.
they actually dealing in buying and importing and licensing these cars, not just searching on Google, so I'll rely on their opinion.
thanks anyway.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Sporting bodies not concerned by gas increase
THE president of both the Trinidad and Tobago Powerboat Association (TTPBA) and the TT Automobile Sports Association (TTASA) said the increase in gas prices locally will not affect their participants as they mostly use race fuel.
On Friday, Minister of Finance Colm Imbert announced in the House of Representatives that premium gasoline, super gasoline, diesel and kerosene will all increase from April 19.
President of the TTPBA Roger Bell said, “We use race fuel for the majority. Maybe a handful of boats use premium.”
Bell said the association informed its members of the price increase and there has been little concern among the racers.
“We have not heard anything from any of the race teams on it because as an association we forwarded the information throughout the fraternity and we have had no feedback today (Saturday) so far and I suspect that’s because it’s a handful (that use premium).”
President of the TTASA Fyzool Madan said, “We use race fuel…the price of that is a fixed price.”
Madan said it “does not affect motor racing in general.”
Madan thanked the Government for the small increase in premium, super, diesel and kerosene as it could have been worse for consumers.
https://newsday.co.tt/2022/04/10/sporti ... -increase/
It is impsbert ppl tho, the 1 percent invest in boat racing for their pleasure. Ofc they not hurt by such is only the average man who have to traverse from sando to POS everyday will feel suchDe Dragon wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Sporting bodies not concerned by gas increase
THE president of both the Trinidad and Tobago Powerboat Association (TTPBA) and the TT Automobile Sports Association (TTASA) said the increase in gas prices locally will not affect their participants as they mostly use race fuel.
On Friday, Minister of Finance Colm Imbert announced in the House of Representatives that premium gasoline, super gasoline, diesel and kerosene will all increase from April 19.
President of the TTPBA Roger Bell said, “We use race fuel for the majority. Maybe a handful of boats use premium.”
Bell said the association informed its members of the price increase and there has been little concern among the racers.
“We have not heard anything from any of the race teams on it because as an association we forwarded the information throughout the fraternity and we have had no feedback today (Saturday) so far and I suspect that’s because it’s a handful (that use premium).”
President of the TTASA Fyzool Madan said, “We use race fuel…the price of that is a fixed price.”
Madan said it “does not affect motor racing in general.”
Madan thanked the Government for the small increase in premium, super, diesel and kerosene as it could have been worse for consumers.
https://newsday.co.tt/2022/04/10/sporti ... -increase/
Wait till Impsy hear this............
hover11 wrote:It is impsbert ppl tho, the 1 percent invest in boat racing for their pleasure. Ofc they not hurt by such is only the average man who have to traverse from sando to POS everyday will feel suchDe Dragon wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Sporting bodies not concerned by gas increase
THE president of both the Trinidad and Tobago Powerboat Association (TTPBA) and the TT Automobile Sports Association (TTASA) said the increase in gas prices locally will not affect their participants as they mostly use race fuel.
On Friday, Minister of Finance Colm Imbert announced in the House of Representatives that premium gasoline, super gasoline, diesel and kerosene will all increase from April 19.
President of the TTPBA Roger Bell said, “We use race fuel for the majority. Maybe a handful of boats use premium.”
Bell said the association informed its members of the price increase and there has been little concern among the racers.
“We have not heard anything from any of the race teams on it because as an association we forwarded the information throughout the fraternity and we have had no feedback today (Saturday) so far and I suspect that’s because it’s a handful (that use premium).”
President of the TTASA Fyzool Madan said, “We use race fuel…the price of that is a fixed price.”
Madan said it “does not affect motor racing in general.”
Madan thanked the Government for the small increase in premium, super, diesel and kerosene as it could have been worse for consumers.
https://newsday.co.tt/2022/04/10/sporti ... -increase/
Wait till Impsy hear this............
hover11 wrote:UNC: 45 per cent less purchasing power for gas now than in 2015
https://newsday.co.tt/2022/04/10/unc-45 ... 8.facebook
How many salary negotiations has the PNM settled.... I still waiting
MaxPower wrote:Wow
Nissan Frontier 2022 selling like hot hot hops.
Allyuh Trinis going crazy and MUST have.
Red government wants an island of ilterate citizens. They gladly want injuns to migrate to lessen the intellectual votesMASH wrote:The more tjngs get hard, the more crime will go up, the more injun will migrate, and the more secure the lefffff foot ritttte foot will be in govament.
Win win win.
It have 320k chipping with they balisier, cheering imburt right nowzoom rader wrote:Red government wants an island of ilterate citizens. They gladly want injuns to migrate to lessen the intellectual votesMASH wrote:The more tjngs get hard, the more crime will go up, the more injun will migrate, and the more secure the lefffff foot ritttte foot will be in govament.
Win win win.
Imburt touch my soulll. 74kW = 99hpK_J_R wrote:agent007 wrote:KJR, the NHP10 Aqua/Priuc C is rated at 99hp. In calculating it's net output, we do not combine the ICE + Electric Motor figures.
The newer Aqua 11 released in Japan got a marginal power increase so maybe you're referring to that one.
Research it again bro, the first gen Aqua does not have 120hp from the 1NZ-FXE. That's impossible because that is the Atkinson cycle equivalent to the Ottocycle 1NZ-FE which still doesn't have 120hp.
"1NZ-FXE engine produces 54 kW (73 hp) and the HSD motor is rated at 45 kW (60 hp). Total output is rated at 74 kW (99 hp)".
Notice they didn't combine both to arrive at 133hp. It doesn't work that way.
But thanks for the explanation otherwise.
no. I'm referring to the common 2014+ Aqua.
can you share that link you got your figures from?
either way, the f-used car dealers are saying the aqua (nor any car currently imprted) will meet the minister spec for exemption. and by virtue of electric rating only.
they actually dealing in buying and importing and licensing these cars, not just searching on Google, so I'll rely on their opinion.
thanks anyway.
zoom rader wrote:Red government wants an island of ilterate citizens
Good boy u brightmero wrote:zoom rader wrote:Red government wants an island of ilterate citizens
Hmm
Toyota's spec shows a 54 kw engine while using a 45 kw traction motor. According to the MoT definition (which is widely used), the total is 99 kw.agent007 wrote:74kW = 99hpK_J_R wrote:agent007 wrote:KJR, the NHP10 Aqua/Priuc C is rated at 99hp. In calculating it's net output, we do not combine the ICE + Electric Motor figures.
The newer Aqua 11 released in Japan got a marginal power increase so maybe you're referring to that one.
Research it again bro, the first gen Aqua does not have 120hp from the 1NZ-FXE. That's impossible because that is the Atkinson cycle equivalent to the Ottocycle 1NZ-FE which still doesn't have 120hp.
"1NZ-FXE engine produces 54 kW (73 hp) and the HSD motor is rated at 45 kW (60 hp). Total output is rated at 74 kW (99 hp)".
Notice they didn't combine both to arrive at 133hp. It doesn't work that way.
But thanks for the explanation otherwise.
no. I'm referring to the common 2014+ Aqua.
can you share that link you got your figures from?
either way, the f-used car dealers are saying the aqua (nor any car currently imprted) will meet the minister spec for exemption. and by virtue of electric rating only.
they actually dealing in buying and importing and licensing these cars, not just searching on Google, so I'll rely on their opinion.
thanks anyway.
You would observe that the ICE is putting out 54kW or 72hp. Again, there is no way a NHP10 putting down 120hp. Google up breds and lol at using figures derived from Gran Turismo. Just remember this, iirc them polyphony people got the hp of the rx8 wrong back then. I think they quoted 250hp when actual was around 228hp so I'm sure there are more errors in there.
Be it as it may, let's see what these concessions mean when an official release is made by the Ministry on the matter. Cheers.
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