T&T OFFICIAL New Vehicle Prices & Discussion Thread

[tacf85]

Welcome the feedback again guys.. I tired the NP300 and there is no isofix for the kids and only dual airbags. The Hilux has the same Cabin as the Toyota Corolla and also dual airbags. The Amarok has 6 airbags... I did some research on the Amarok myself and didn't really get much bad reviews though. It even won best pick up for 2013 & 2014 in the UK which is probably the version we are getting because they are right hand drive. Click on links to see:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volkswagen/amarok

http://www.carbuyer.co.uk/reviews/volks ... cle/review

http://www.carsguide.com.au/car-reviews ... test-35271

[Allergic2BunnyEars]

Ok. Vw usually wins over persons on features locally. Particularly safety. They lose out on reliability generally. In the amorak's favor though is that the tranny in it is shared amongst other manufacturers and it doesn't shown any grave issues. Same tranny as found in bmw, jaguar etc.

The engine is anyone's guess. It's a euro 3 engine so should actually be able to tolerate high sulphur diesel. Check an amorak forum if you can.

[zoom rader]

What are your opinions on the ISUZU Dmax 4x4s.
Any one have issues with them. They rated as the top 5 in the UK

[tacf85]

What are your opinions on the ISUZU Dmax 4x4s.
Any one have issues with them. They rated as the top 5 in the UK

Haven't checked the ISUZU Dmax.. Don't really like the look but I'll consider it. Thanks

[cinco]

What are your opinions on the ISUZU Dmax 4x4s.
Any one have issues with them. They rated as the top 5 in the UK

Haven't checked the ISUZU Dmax.. Don't really like the look but I'll consider it. Thanks

I know two person who had timing chain issues within 60k with the dmax

[kamakazi]

Diesel gate? Didn't know you cared about the environment so much cinco.
Amarok has been out since 2010/2011 in other markets.

All automotive companies have scandals, Trini's beloved Toyota's were killing people with poorly designed accelerator pedals that were getting stuck and they covered it up until they were caught.

You do realize that the accelerator issue was mainly due to driver/owner incompetence.

Anyhow.... Love my Toyota.... Hate the dealership... namely the service dept.
I haven't gone back to service since the 1000km checkup. I only go back to get certain parts that cannot be located easily on the outside.

[carluva]

This week in the newspapers i saw isuzu advertising a new 7 seater 2.5 l turbo diesel called the MU-X. 396k i believe.

Also ford have the new everest. Got a brochure via email from a salesman. Really gorgeous but wait for it....

... 495k.

[drchaos]

Diesel gate? Didn't know you cared about the environment so much cinco.
Amarok has been out since 2010/2011 in other markets.

All automotive companies have scandals, Trini's beloved Toyota's were killing people with poorly designed accelerator pedals that were getting stuck and they covered it up until they were caught.

You do realize that the accelerator issue was mainly due to driver/owner incompetence.

Anyhow.... Love my Toyota.... Hate the dealership... namely the service dept.
I haven't gone back to service since the 1000km checkup. I only go back to get certain parts that cannot be located easily on the outside.

No no no no ... Toyota first tried to blame victims and toyota owners ... Then they tried to blame it on floor mats. Then the buggers tried to hide documents that showed flaws in the pedal assembly. They then decided it was a good idea to pay the Federal gov in the us 1.2 billion dollars to avoid prosecution. Finally after three years they admitted fault and recalled 9.3 million cars.
All the large companies are the same.

[kamakazi]

While there were faults with the accelerator pedal.... Investigations into the accidents which caused fatalities revealed that incorrect floor mats were the real reason. In one of the incidents the driver had time to call 911 and talk to a dispatcher but couldn't figure out he could put the car into neutral to take away the acceleration.
I am not denying a pedal problem, but that isn't the reason people died to acceleration of an engine running at wot. The sticking pedal just meant it took longer for the pedal to return to 0% or would stick at partial throttle.
The charges were due to cost of investigations and Toyota's failure to report the pedal problem.
Recalls were done to address the pedal and also to modify existing systems to better assist the driver in emergency situations.
America is the land of opportunity and sue.

[jhonnieblue]

Not local yet but would be interesting to see if the volvo xc90 reaches our Shores


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[scotty_buttons]

There was one (new model xc90) in the showroom a couple months ago. Not sure if it's sold yet

[drchaos]

Yeah saw a white XC90 on the road near massy compound already. Probably a special order due to economic situation.

[drchaos]

While there were faults with the accelerator pedal.... Investigations into the accidents which caused fatalities revealed that incorrect floor mats were the real reason. In one of the incidents the driver had time to call 911 and talk to a dispatcher but couldn't figure out he could put the car into neutral to take away the acceleration.
I am not denying a pedal problem, but that isn't the reason people died to acceleration of an engine running at wot. The sticking pedal just meant it took longer for the pedal to return to 0% or would stick at partial throttle.
The charges were due to cost of investigations and Toyota's failure to report the pedal problem.
Recalls were done to address the pedal and also to modify existing systems to better assist the driver in emergency situations.
America is the land of opportunity and sue.

No offense man but basically you added alot of fluff to say same thing I was saying ...
1) The cars had a design flaw
2) Company tried to cover up
3) People died ... and you may say driver error but if the accelerator pedal never had a problem in the first place those people would have been alive. Pedal problem precedes the decisions the drivers made in a frightening situation. You can stand there and judge but in a frightening situation you don't even know how you would react.
4) Recall and big fine was paid out for their mess and trying to hide it.

America is the land to sue but the company was FINED by the FEDERAL government, mega difference.

As Allergic2bunnyears will say these cars are made by men and will always have design flaws. Its how you handle those design flaws. The correct thing to do is have a immediate recall not try to cover it up. Which leads again to the point that the big three car companies don't care about you. All they care about your money and after they get it they don't care if your wife has a miscarriage from inhaling toxic amounts of diesel fumes from an amarok or you die from burns to 90% of your body when your corolla bursts into flames from faulty wiring in the door.

[carluva]

^^^ amen

[Gladiator]

hi friends...
looking for a suv/cuv within the range of 300k.
Except for front grill and fog lights, kia sporage 2016 is very tempting ..considering the price and number of features(300k/fully loaded). but heard so many negative comments about southern sales...sooo confused whether to go with them or look for alternatives...please give your valuable suggestions/alternative suv within my range.

RAV 4

thanks for the reply
but,any specific reason for RAV4?

Pretty reliable with a solid build and good power. Sips gas with the CVT. Handles like a boat (SUV I guess).

Packed with safety features and much better looking than the sportage. Currently have a friend that had to wait 6 weeks to get a replacement tailgate for the sportage.

[neexis]

Not local yet but would be interesting to see if the volvo xc90 reaches our Shores


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Considering the increased prevalence of Euro ownership, anyone knows why they stopped pushing Volvo as much? The cars appear to be solid with good specs.

[drchaos]

They were too busy trying to manage their two big heavy hitters, nissan and hyundai.

[andy22]

The reason I want to choose VW because firstly my wife don't want a foreign used vehicle.. All the seven seaters SUV are to expensive and the other brand new 7 seaters we don't really like. We saw the Amarok yesterday and it was very wide and spacious.. The car seats are fitting without stress and there is feature to deactivate the airbag in front if we decide to put a child there. The normal 5 seat SUV's is a very tight fit. The Amarok is not cramping for space at all.. But I'm still listening to advice.. Nothing cast on stone yet.. Appreciate the feedback I'm getting. Also it have isofix and some pretty good safety features for the kids safety.

My VW CC still at the dealership since August 2015. They say the problem is the remote start, but I had the remote start installed since September 2014 and it was working fine. It only started to give problems less than a week after I got a service done at Best Auto in August 2015. They ordered like 3 different parts, each taking 3 weeks to a month to arrive. None of those parts solved the problem. Honestly, I just find it odd that they blame it on the remote start that was working fine for 11 months. They say they've been working on the car, but I highly doubt it.

[EcoTune Trinidad]

Sometimes during servicing they do software updates as are available via intranet...what if the updated software is maybe having engine immobilizer issues?How did the installer of the remote start bypass immobiler to enable remote start? (Genuinely asking)

Sometimes this can be as simple as a relay that is blown assuming it was aftermarket part?

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[kamakazi]

While there were faults with the accelerator pedal.... Investigations into the accidents which caused fatalities revealed that incorrect floor mats were the real reason. In one of the incidents the driver had time to call 911 and talk to a dispatcher but couldn't figure out he could put the car into neutral to take away the acceleration.
I am not denying a pedal problem, but that isn't the reason people died to acceleration of an engine running at wot. The sticking pedal just meant it took longer for the pedal to return to 0% or would stick at partial throttle.
The charges were due to cost of investigations and Toyota's failure to report the pedal problem.
Recalls were done to address the pedal and also to modify existing systems to better assist the driver in emergency situations.
America is the land of opportunity and sue.

No offense man but basically you added alot of fluff to say same thing I was saying ...
1) The cars had a design flaw
2) Company tried to cover up
3) People died ... and you may say driver error but if the accelerator pedal never had a problem in the first place those people would have been alive. Pedal problem precedes the decisions the drivers made in a frightening situation. You can stand there and judge but in a frightening situation you don't even know how you would react.
4) Recall and big fine was paid out for their mess and trying to hide it.

America is the land to sue but the company was FINED by the FEDERAL government, mega difference.

As Allergic2bunnyears will say these cars are made by men and will always have design flaws. Its how you handle those design flaws. The correct thing to do is have a immediate recall not try to cover it up. Which leads again to the point that the big three car companies don't care about you. All they care about your money and after they get it they don't care if your wife has a miscarriage from inhaling toxic amounts of diesel fumes from an amarok or you die from burns to 90% of your body when your corolla bursts into flames from faulty wiring in the door.

While the issues are similar they are not the same
One held the throttle at or near 100%/ the other just made it take longer to return to 0% or might remain engaged at 10% or so.
One was caused by the end user /the other by the manufacturer
One resulted in fatalities/the other did not.

[Pointman-IA]

Sometimes during servicing they do software updates as are available via intranet...what if the updated software is maybe having engine immobilizer issues?How did the installer of the remote start bypass immobiler to enable remote start? (Genuinely asking)

Sometimes this can be as simple as a relay that is blown assuming it was aftermarket part?

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Sir.
You are indeed a master of your work.

I was about to ask how did the installer carry out such work.

[tacf85]

Why install an after market remote start on a VW?? You looking for trouble.. That's not a Nissan, Toyota, Mazda or other Japanese vehicles.. If you wanted a remote start then you should have bought a VW with one stock..

[carluva]

The reason I want to choose VW because firstly my wife don't want a foreign used vehicle.. All the seven seaters SUV are to expensive and the other brand new 7 seaters we don't really like. We saw the Amarok yesterday and it was very wide and spacious.. The car seats are fitting without stress and there is feature to deactivate the airbag in front if we decide to put a child there. The normal 5 seat SUV's is a very tight fit. The Amarok is not cramping for space at all.. But I'm still listening to advice.. Nothing cast on stone yet.. Appreciate the feedback I'm getting. Also it have isofix and some pretty good safety features for the kids safety.

My VW CC still at the dealership since August 2015. They say the problem is the remote start, but I had the remote start installed since September 2014 and it was working fine. It only started to give problems less than a week after I got a service done at Best Auto in August 2015. They ordered like 3 different parts, each taking 3 weeks to a month to arrive. None of those parts solved the problem. Honestly, I just find it odd that they blame it on the remote start that was working fine for 11 months. They say they've been working on the car, but I highly doubt it.

Thats a long time to be out of your vehicle. Did they give you a courtesy car for this long duration?

[Dave]

More so did they give you a new car instead? A month under warranty and that should be grounds for a replacement vehicle.

[Kenjo]

Are those Euros and other highly computer controlled cars compatible with Carsearch and other tracking security features ? If a remote start supposedly could mess up a vehicle so much . We can't say for sure what messed up This persons VW but does anyone else have any idea ?

[Kenjo]

And yes we know these cars have a low rate of being stolen.

[Pointman-IA]

Wasn't the warranty considered void when he allowed a third party to install the remote start?
Unless he has written approval from BA.

[drchaos]

Basically his warranty should be void.

[andy22]

Sometimes during servicing they do software updates as are available via intranet...what if the updated software is maybe having engine immobilizer issues?How did the installer of the remote start bypass immobiler to enable remote start? (Genuinely asking)

Sometimes this can be as simple as a relay that is blown assuming it was aftermarket part?

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I'll ask if they updated any software from that August 2015 service. The installer removed the immobilizer from the key fob and stuck it into the slot where the key fob enters. I thought this was the problem and I had him uninstall the remote start when the car started giving problems. But a few days later it started giving me the same problems again (no A/C, no indicator lights, and no infotainment system).

BTW, warranty was expired when I got the remote start installed as Best Auto only offered 2 years warranty.

[drchaos]

You supposed to have 2 extra years of goodwill which means you pay for the labour and they request the part free from vw. But after that the goodwill should be void as well.