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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby zoom rader » March 16th, 2012, 12:21 pm

Tools missing is a big fraud by the Contractors themselfs. What they do is to insure the tools and then they themselfs hide the tools and claim that workers have stolen the tools or its missing. What they then do is to claim insurance money. Contractor never use new tools on any new jobs, its always the same old tools they had, they just keep re-using the old tools and claiming insurance for new tools.

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Rooki3 » March 16th, 2012, 12:24 pm

Humes wrote:Justified or not, one thing I doh ever do is speak out against unions taking industrial actions. Mightn't speak out in support either, but I definitely doh speak out against them.

I doh think people (workers, at least) understand how much they're undermining themselves when they stand against other workers and in solidarity with corporations. That is an age-old tool of the wealthy to divide and control the working class, and to create conditions where workers have no rights and no leverage. Nobody quarreling about how much profit companies can make, or how wealthy the wealthy can get. Read about the countries with no unions or weak unions when yuh get a chance.

Let the workers fight their fight. It might be your turn to fight next, and no matter how hard you workin or how reasonable you think your salary is, it will have some ignorant jealous loudmouth kant who will want to pull yuh down and talk about how yuh doh do nutten so yuh doh deserve nutten.


this is exacty what goes on

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Team Loco » March 16th, 2012, 2:05 pm

zoom rader wrote:Tools missing is a big fraud by the Contractors themselfs. What they do is to insure the tools and then they themselfs hide the tools and claim that workers have stolen the tools or its missing. What they then do is to claim insurance money. Contractor never use new tools on any new jobs, its always the same old tools they had, they just keep re-using the old tools and claiming insurance for new tools.


my tools are not insured.......

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Damien » March 16th, 2012, 5:07 pm

It is alleged that some rastaman from the village is the one who damaged the maxi, i think the person is a casual employee and the police are "investigating"

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby zoom rader » March 16th, 2012, 9:38 pm

Damien wrote:It is alleged that some rastaman from the village is the one who damaged the maxi, i think the person is a casual employee and the police are "investigating"

I am sure the rastaman was paid by TCL

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby SR » March 17th, 2012, 6:49 am

tcl's production output surpassed its regular output with less staff and mostly women running the plant on less work shifts as well.........................


go figure

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby kurpal_v2 » March 17th, 2012, 8:06 am

SR wrote:tcl's production output surpassed its regular output with less staff and mostly women running the plant on less work shifts as well.........................


go figure



Fact or old talk?

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby shaneelal » March 17th, 2012, 8:31 am

It was the best the got using that method. Not the best off the plant.


Plant restarted

Story Created: Mar 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM ECT

Story Updated: Mar 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM ECT

USING a skeleton staff of strike breakers and managers, Trinidad Cement Ltd (TCL) has restarted the factory and resumed the production of cement.

This despite an almost three-week strike by all but a few of the company's 600 workers who have refused a 6.5 per cent increase in salaries.

TCL's production manager, Keith Ramjitsingh, said the plant was running on "mill and roller press mode" and did not require a large number of workers. He said in six hours, 370 tonnes of bulk cement was produced on Thursday.


Bulk cement is used by ready-mix and concrete block companies. The company took media workers on a tour of the Claxton Bay plant yesterday.

Ramjitsingh said: "The good news about that is, that is one of the highest production numbers per hour we have ever gotten on the roller press since this plant was commissioned (five years ago). That was an excellent effort on the people who ran the plant yesterday."

Ramjitsingh said on a normal eight-hour shift the plant produces 480 tonnes of cement.

Ramjitsingh said the plant would eventually run on a two-shift system, producing up to 6,000 tonnes of cement a week.

Ramjitsingh said TCL had a stockpile of approximately 25,000 tonnes of clinker—the core material used to manufacture cement.

In the interim, the bagged cement will continue to be imported from TCL's subsidiaries in Barbados and Jamaica.

Ramjitsingh said the plant was being operated by managers and senior employees who were part of the design, build and construction of the facility.

But Ancel Roget, president general of the Oilfields Workers' Trade Union (OWTU), said the managers were not certified in operating the highly technical plant.

He said proper Occupational, Health and Safety procedures were not being practised and noted the amount of cement produced was being exaggerated.

Roget said workers were not deterred and intend to continue the planned 90-day strike.

The company's 6.5 per cent wage increase was refused by the union demanding 16 per cent. The company has since mailed individual contract offers to its 600 workers.

TCL's general manager Satnarine Bachew said several workers have accepted the package. But Roget said contracts were being burnt at the strike camp in Claxton Bay daily. —Carolyn Kissoon



http://www.trinidadexpress.com/news/Plant_restarted-143020995.html

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Damien » March 17th, 2012, 11:45 am

:lol: :lol: :lol: dirty games they aint produce sheit

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Scoobert Bauce » March 17th, 2012, 11:45 am

Damien wrote:according to some of your views its okay to pay a manager $35k a mth for doing nothing than to pay a laborer 10k a mth to do something??? why do we pay deep sea divers all that money and what about people who work on riggs are there salary justified?


Do you have an MBA? No.

I understand where you coming from, but to say execs dont deserve too work for that kind of money is ignorant thinking.

Now JOB performance... thats a different story lol

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Scoobert Bauce » March 17th, 2012, 11:50 am

but on a side note, TCL workers does be stealing the old laptops and bringing them to technicians to fix and do fresh installs...

Allegedly.

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby De Dragon » March 17th, 2012, 12:09 pm

I am still waiting on official condemnation of the stoning of the maxi by ANY Union official. All we hear is that it "should be investigated"

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby bluestarz9 » March 17th, 2012, 3:03 pm

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby SR » March 19th, 2012, 7:35 pm

awaits video survelance footage of the 2 individuals who firebomb a tcl employee house



more villagers again???????

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby 200sx » March 19th, 2012, 7:39 pm

They also spilled oil on the roadway to the back gate!

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Damien » March 19th, 2012, 7:43 pm

the oil one is true the next one is a lie, dont believe what you hear on $$$cnc3$$$

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby SR » March 19th, 2012, 7:51 pm

ok
so belive you then??

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby brams112 » March 19th, 2012, 8:03 pm

well they are going towards a month strike,hope they get pay for striking,,,,roget is the only one working his mouth,then there is the dunce who represents the tcl faction talking a pack of crap for the press to lap up,,,and he is a dunce eh,,,fool leading the fools,,,,

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Damien » March 19th, 2012, 8:06 pm

believe what you want, i just posted that for the others who not like you to just watch the news and come to rant nah, media said that they firebomb the house but someone throw a flambeau on the concrete driveway wtf?, i have no reason to lie i am satisfied with the current offer and even the existing rates the strike means nothing to me

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby brams112 » March 19th, 2012, 8:09 pm

so ur wukking pallie?

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Damien » March 19th, 2012, 8:14 pm

nah i not breaking no line

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby brams112 » March 19th, 2012, 8:21 pm

why ur afraid of your friends?do you know tcl still making money just by workers not working?if you want to strike let the company do their stuff and the consumers get on with their jobs,if all of you who are striking feel is only you all are are suffering is the guy who is a tradesman is also losing,with the labourer eh pallie,,,if the job not paying to your friends and fellow strikers liking get another job nah,,,,,

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Damien » March 19th, 2012, 8:43 pm

i not afraid of anyone, i just decided to stay outside with the workers because of the after effect remember after this everyone goes back to work as normal and there will be victimization from both sides

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Damien » March 19th, 2012, 8:46 pm

in a strike remember every party loses, the worker, the company and the consumer

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby brams112 » March 19th, 2012, 8:51 pm

boi workers in trinidad to happy,they want more money but do not produce labour output for their alloted time,ever travel pallie?there are places where people wait outside of business places for men to slipup on their jobs just by not coming to work eh,so what is the word people want to work or is there fear of what you said,,,ur still did not say why srtikers not looking for better paying jobs,,

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby Damien » March 19th, 2012, 8:58 pm

some people still don't know what the real world of employment is and how difficult it is to get a job especially one with a good salary

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby brams112 » March 19th, 2012, 9:04 pm

so why strike,a steady job better than none,,,,not so,,,,,,,or as i said look for something better,be self employed,,,,get into transport,,,,

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby biggreen » March 20th, 2012, 11:44 am

Employees are being warned not to "lose their head" and take contracts of employment from the company, also they are being reminded that we know where u live, where ur children go to school blah blah blah... (lots of people want to work but can't, there are abt 30 of the same people at the gate over and over taking names in books)

Is this called for? The OWTU has their own agenda, u guys need to wake up and smell the coffee. The next step is called restructuring... just know what ur about, you are not going to make this $ working for 70% of the companies out there, doing what u do in TCL u will have to really work and then u still will not have the same benefits..

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby 200sx » March 20th, 2012, 12:06 pm

I heard that TCL looking for new workers! Documents in hand!

But how to get in the company gates?

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Re: TCL Strike - justified or not justified

Postby kurpal_v2 » March 20th, 2012, 2:38 pm

brams112 wrote:boi workers in trinidad to happy,they want more money but do not produce labour output for their alloted time,ever travel pallie?there are places where people wait outside of business places for men to slipup on their jobs just by not coming to work eh,so what is the word people want to work or is there fear of what you said,,,ur still did not say why srtikers not looking for better paying jobs,,



LOL so true.

I hope these workers realising that in management's eyes they are just a renewable resource.

Example:

200sx wrote:I heard that TCL looking for new workers! Documents in hand!

But how to get in the company gates?


^^ Plenty more of these guys out here willing to jump at the opportunity of a job paying $10,000/month(iirc). Health conditions? Pfff Ive seen men do worst for less.

Hardlucks but stay strong and follow the union, Roget membership mornee in the bank, most allyuh getting if this blows up in yall face is a "We will continue to press on and pursue this matter in teh courts! JUSTISS!!" and a "hardlucks deyboidan"

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