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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby pugboy » August 10th, 2025, 12:07 pm

is it true that native africans also enslaved their fellow
africans in africa?

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby Dizzy28 » August 10th, 2025, 12:42 pm

timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:I am in support of the First People having this spot. Columbus enslaved them first
There are no first people In Trinidad.
The Arima tribe is led by a man named Bharath Hernandez.

Generations of miscengation have ensured Trinidad doesn't have a true indigenous population unlike Guyana. Some American uni did a study of St Vincent and TT years ago to study the genotypes of the "first peoples". It was as expected.

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Google Christo Adonis
My maternal side family is from Arima. I am fully aware who these ppl all are.

I am also willing to bet Adonis is probably 65% African, 10-15% European with a 5% East Indian.


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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby timelapse » August 10th, 2025, 1:10 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:I am in support of the First People having this spot. Columbus enslaved them first
There are no first people In Trinidad.
The Arima tribe is led by a man named Bharath Hernandez.

Generations of miscengation have ensured Trinidad doesn't have a true indigenous population unlike Guyana. Some American uni did a study of St Vincent and TT years ago to study the genotypes of the "first peoples". It was as expected.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using TriniTuner mobile app
Google Christo Adonis
My maternal side family is from Arima. I am fully aware who these ppl all are.

I am also willing to bet Adonis is probably 65% African, 10-15% European with a 5% East Indian.


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That's not the point. These people need to be remembered in some way or the other. They don't even have a national holiday dedicated to them.
I also found the sculpture that was done for the Sando wharf facelift was very disrespectful towards these people.Is not everything has to be African and Indian so. We have Chinese here since before Indian Indentureship that we don't give a rat's arse about.

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby Dizzy28 » August 10th, 2025, 3:56 pm

timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:I am in support of the First People having this spot. Columbus enslaved them first
There are no first people In Trinidad.
The Arima tribe is led by a man named Bharath Hernandez.

Generations of miscengation have ensured Trinidad doesn't have a true indigenous population unlike Guyana. Some American uni did a study of St Vincent and TT years ago to study the genotypes of the "first peoples". It was as expected.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using TriniTuner mobile app
Google Christo Adonis
My maternal side family is from Arima. I am fully aware who these ppl all are.

I am also willing to bet Adonis is probably 65% African, 10-15% European with a 5% East Indian.


Sent from my Pixel 7 using TriniTuner mobile app
That's not the point. These people need to be remembered in some way or the other. They don't even have a national holiday dedicated to them.
I also found the sculpture that was done for the Sando wharf facelift was very disrespectful towards these people.Is not everything has to be African and Indian so. We have Chinese here since before Indian Indentureship that we don't give a rat's arse about.
I don't disagree with you on recognition. And I was always in belief that there should be one public holiday set aside for celebrating the various ethnicities - Indian Arrival, Chinese Arrival, European Arrival for those French creoles, Maderians etc. as well recognition of First People's. In a country with 14 PH plus Carnival we very well can't be giving everyone a day.

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby timelapse » August 10th, 2025, 4:07 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:I am in support of the First People having this spot. Columbus enslaved them first
There are no first people In Trinidad.
The Arima tribe is led by a man named Bharath Hernandez.

Generations of miscengation have ensured Trinidad doesn't have a true indigenous population unlike Guyana. Some American uni did a study of St Vincent and TT years ago to study the genotypes of the "first peoples". It was as expected.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using TriniTuner mobile app
Google Christo Adonis
My maternal side family is from Arima. I am fully aware who these ppl all are.

I am also willing to bet Adonis is probably 65% African, 10-15% European with a 5% East Indian.


Sent from my Pixel 7 using TriniTuner mobile app
That's not the point. These people need to be remembered in some way or the other. They don't even have a national holiday dedicated to them.
I also found the sculpture that was done for the Sando wharf facelift was very disrespectful towards these people.Is not everything has to be African and Indian so. We have Chinese here since before Indian Indentureship that we don't give a rat's arse about.
I don't disagree with you on recognition. And I was always in belief that there should be one public holiday set aside for celebrating the various ethnicities - Indian Arrival, Chinese Arrival, European Arrival for those French creoles, Maderians etc. as well recognition of First People's. In a country with 14 PH plus Carnival we very well can't be giving everyone a day.

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We really do not need carnival

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby 88sins » August 10th, 2025, 5:45 pm

pugboy wrote:is it true that native africans also enslaved their fellow
africans in africa?

Yes
Slavery is a hell of a thing

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby matr1x » August 11th, 2025, 8:06 am

bluefete wrote:
matr1x wrote:Some of of them eff up before euros. Africa was a disaster without the euros


Are you serious?

You do not know the history of Africa.



Yes, and they have been engaging in slavery long before Europeans show up.


Don't make it right, but let's stop making it seem like Africa was wakanda

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby Dizzy28 » August 11th, 2025, 10:17 am

timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:I am in support of the First People having this spot. Columbus enslaved them first
There are no first people In Trinidad.
The Arima tribe is led by a man named Bharath Hernandez.

Generations of miscengation have ensured Trinidad doesn't have a true indigenous population unlike Guyana. Some American uni did a study of St Vincent and TT years ago to study the genotypes of the "first peoples". It was as expected.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using TriniTuner mobile app
Google Christo Adonis
My maternal side family is from Arima. I am fully aware who these ppl all are.

I am also willing to bet Adonis is probably 65% African, 10-15% European with a 5% East Indian.


Sent from my Pixel 7 using TriniTuner mobile app
That's not the point. These people need to be remembered in some way or the other. They don't even have a national holiday dedicated to them.
I also found the sculpture that was done for the Sando wharf facelift was very disrespectful towards these people.Is not everything has to be African and Indian so. We have Chinese here since before Indian Indentureship that we don't give a rat's arse about.


Just to back up my earlier point and now that I had some time to find the article.
Our First People actually have more native ancestry than St Vincent's. However African and European genetics still dominate the ancestry of the community.

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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8095721/#ABS1

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Re: Murderer & Rapist Christopher Columbus

Postby timelapse » August 11th, 2025, 12:01 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
timelapse wrote:I am in support of the First People having this spot. Columbus enslaved them first
There are no first people In Trinidad.
The Arima tribe is led by a man named Bharath Hernandez.

Generations of miscengation have ensured Trinidad doesn't have a true indigenous population unlike Guyana. Some American uni did a study of St Vincent and TT years ago to study the genotypes of the "first peoples". It was as expected.

Sent from my Pixel 7 using TriniTuner mobile app
Google Christo Adonis
My maternal side family is from Arima. I am fully aware who these ppl all are.

I am also willing to bet Adonis is probably 65% African, 10-15% European with a 5% East Indian.


Sent from my Pixel 7 using TriniTuner mobile app
That's not the point. These people need to be remembered in some way or the other. They don't even have a national holiday dedicated to them.
I also found the sculpture that was done for the Sando wharf facelift was very disrespectful towards these people.Is not everything has to be African and Indian so. We have Chinese here since before Indian Indentureship that we don't give a rat's arse about.


Just to back up my earlier point and now that I had some time to find the article.
Our First People actually have more native ancestry than St Vincent's. However African and European genetics still dominate the ancestry of the community.

Capture.JPG

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8095721/#ABS1
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