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Postby rollingstock » April 25th, 2024, 9:33 pm

Heinz need to catchup with the laws(plural)

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Postby Supra GT-FOUR » April 25th, 2024, 9:36 pm

rollingstock wrote:Heinz need to ketchup with the laws(plural)
(pun intended).

Fixed it for ya.

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Postby pugboy » April 25th, 2024, 9:37 pm

thing is gg pulled him up on it the last time he open his mouth on it, i think was after army fete when patrice roberts where a hot camo pants

clearly heinz has amnesia or is just plain ignorant of the laws or both

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Postby Habit7 » April 25th, 2024, 10:09 pm

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Hinds and GG seem to be on the same page if you ask me.

“That is to ensure that persons cannot imitate members of the protective services to be involved in criminal activities, so there can be some degree of understanding of the value of that.

“What I understood, however, is that when I was the Minister of National Security, through Customs, there was a misinterpretation of that law and they extended that law to be as ridiculous as it can be. If a child has an orange camouflage toy, if a lady has a blue camouflage short pants that is illegal,” he said.

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Postby bluefete » April 30th, 2024, 8:00 pm

Undercover police, no doubt.


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Postby maj. tom » May 12th, 2024, 8:09 am

Secrecy surrounds CoP's tenure as contract expires
https://newsday.co.tt/2024/05/11/secrecy-surrounds-cops-tenure-as-contract-expires/

With two days left on her contract, there is no hint from Commissioner of Police Erla Harewood-Christopher or the government on if she will be returning to the position or whether there will be a new acting CoP.

Newsday asked questions of the Office of the President, the Police Service Commission (PolSC), National Security Minister Fitzgerald Hinds, Attorney General Reginald Armour, SC, and acting prime minister Colm Imbert to get clarity on what would be the fate of the police service past May 14, but the responses from the politicians were non-committal while there was no response from the other independent bodies.

However, people close to Harewood-Christopher said she was “calling it quits” after serving as the substantive CoP from February 2023 and would not resume the role even if offered another one-year contract as she did not get the support she expected in the police ranks and received unfair criticism from the public.

When asked if he received the appraisal for Hareword-Christopher from the PolSC in during a press briefing on May 9, Imbert suggested reporters look to the judgment of High Court Judge Nadia Kangaloo in October 2021.

He said,“I suggest you go and look at the law. I think it will give you some idea of what has to take place,” thereby suggesting an extension was not forthcoming.

In the judgment, Kangaloo said former police commissioner Gary Griffith’s appointment as acting commissioner by the PolSC was illegal and unconstitutional, which left the post vacant.

She also said, under Section 123 of the Constitution, for both the acting and substantive CoP, a merit list had to be prepared by the PolSC and sent it to the President, who would then issue it to the House of Representatives for approval.

Section 75 of Police Service Act also allows for the President to extend the term of a first division officer who is due to retire.

An extension in Harewood-Christopher’s tenure was approved by Parliament in May 2023 and it ends on May 14, as she celebrates her 62nd birthday the following day. And, under the law, she could receive two one-year extensions but it would have to be based a favourable appraisal from the PolSC.

Harewood-Christopher had been acting in the post from December 7, 2022 when then acting commissioner Mc Donald Jacob went on vacation. She was confirmed as the substantive CoP on February 3 but was due to retire when she turned 60 on May 15, 2023.

An acting CoP will have to be appointed in order to give the PolSC an opportunity to appoint a substantive commissioner as, in 2022, seven months lapsed between the deadline for application for the position and Harewood-Christopher’s confirmation in the position.

The position was advertised in daily newspapers on April 11. The deadline for applications was May 3. Parliament has a sitting on Monday but according to the Order Paper there is no nomination before the Lower House from the Office of the President for the post of acting CoP.

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Postby pugboy » May 12th, 2024, 9:04 am

well it have a bunch of cronies who they promoted the other day to act in position

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Postby alfa » May 12th, 2024, 9:22 am

So all the lawsuits before her and PAP letters they not responding to, tanty going leave that mess for a next man to inherit :?

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Postby pugboy » May 12th, 2024, 9:44 am

one thing, she was the only one who does wear body cam

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Postby MaxPower » May 12th, 2024, 10:05 am

pugboy wrote:one thing, she was the only one who does wear body cam


Well pug.

God watching her, and she watching you

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Postby pugboy » May 12th, 2024, 10:25 am

max, yuh watch any of the vids of the white man who visiting gangster hoods?
the common thing them gangsters does say is god in charge

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pugboy wrote:one thing, she was the only one who does wear body cam


Well pug.

God watching her, and she watching you

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Postby MaxPower » May 12th, 2024, 4:42 pm

pugboy wrote:max, yuh watch any of the vids of the white man who visiting gangster hoods?
the common thing them gangsters does say is god in charge


Yeh pug i see them lol

They does get dotish when they see the white man.

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Postby matr1x » May 12th, 2024, 6:17 pm

There is another way to look at it....

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Postby pugboy » May 12th, 2024, 7:05 pm

so gangaloo going to proclaim one of them deaf and dumb cronies who does sit next to erla at them press conf as a next acting cop?

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Postby MaxPower » May 12th, 2024, 7:36 pm

matr1x wrote:There is another way to look at it....


Preach it na top dog

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MaxPower wrote:
matr1x wrote:There is another way to look at it....


Preach it na top dog



The pecking order

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Postby 16 cycles » May 13th, 2024, 6:23 pm

Frank took her to task for not dealing with the FuL process in a timely manner...so salt for his detail?


Anyways...


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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » May 13th, 2024, 6:37 pm

16 cycles wrote:Frank took her to task for not dealing with the FuL process in a timely manner...so salt for his detail?


Anyways...


+1 more year of prayers

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Postby aaron17 » May 13th, 2024, 6:38 pm

Let us pray again

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Postby pugboy » May 13th, 2024, 6:40 pm

all who ain’t install perimeter burglar alarm and wall spikes need to put that on their agenda

don’t become another statistic

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Postby Habit7 » May 13th, 2024, 8:23 pm

Hearing the CoP speak really does not inspire confidence.

But as a logical numbers person, murders are down in comparison to the previous year for a second year in a row. For any generic CoP that would be commendable. But it seems like for her she can’t beat her perception of incompetence despite her success.

Ppl seem like they prefer someone to call bandits cockroaches and to regale stories of their time at Sandhurst all will murder toll climbing every year.

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Postby shake d livin wake d dead » May 13th, 2024, 8:50 pm

^ because murder is the only type of crime to measure "success"?

We hovering around 10 home invasions per month and at least 3 vehicles being stolen in the one day.....together with all types of other crimes....but carry on smartly.

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Postby alfa » May 13th, 2024, 9:01 pm

Erla probably raking in excess of 30k a monthe plus perks and a nice enhanced retirement package. Think she studying anybody, especially if she have no shame, she crusing into retirement comfortable next year.

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Postby paid_influencer » May 13th, 2024, 9:16 pm

Habit7 wrote:Hearing the CoP speak really does not inspire confidence.

But as a logical numbers person, murders are down in comparison to the previous year for a second year in a row. For any generic CoP that would be commendable. But it seems like for her she can’t beat her perception of incompetence despite her success.

Ppl seem like they prefer someone to call bandits cockroaches and to regale stories of their time at Sandhurst all will murder toll climbing every year.


true facts.

and trinis ent going to admit to themselves their perception is shaped in particular because she is a black religious woman.

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Postby alfa » May 13th, 2024, 9:21 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Hearing the CoP speak really does not inspire confidence.

But as a logical numbers person, murders are down in comparison to the previous year for a second year in a row. For any generic CoP that would be commendable. But it seems like for her she can’t beat her perception of incompetence despite her success.

Ppl seem like they prefer someone to call bandits cockroaches and to regale stories of their time at Sandhurst all will murder toll climbing every year.


true facts.

and trinis ent going to admit to themselves their perception is shaped in particular because she is a black religious woman.

The head of the SSA is a black very religious man who got entaggled with a pastor/spy and the rest of the story lead to possible murder, poisioning and guns galore. What kinda point you trying to make by pulling the race card and religion one in the same sentence?

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Postby Habit7 » May 13th, 2024, 9:27 pm

paid_influencer wrote:
Habit7 wrote:Hearing the CoP speak really does not inspire confidence.

But as a logical numbers person, murders are down in comparison to the previous year for a second year in a row. For any generic CoP that would be commendable. But it seems like for her she can’t beat her perception of incompetence despite her success.

Ppl seem like they prefer someone to call bandits cockroaches and to regale stories of their time at Sandhurst all will murder toll climbing every year.


true facts.

and trinis ent going to admit to themselves their perception is shaped in particular because she is a black religious woman.

I know plenty Black religious women who don’t like her either. I don’t want to go to race and gender. I want to deal with the facts. I dealing with objective numbers, not critical race theory.

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Postby The_Honourable » May 15th, 2024, 10:57 am

Hinds: Erla received a good rating

Police Commissioner Erla Christopher was given a one-year extension because she received a good rating from the Police Service Commission, Minister of National Security Fitzgerald Hinds said yesterday.

He was speaking with reporters during the launch of the 2024 Vision on Mission Preparation for Release Programme, at the Maximum Security Prison, Golden Grove Road, Arouca.

He said: “The law says you have to review the Commissioner’s extension for a maximum of three years, but it is reviewable every year. So it is a year-by-year for three years maximum. We’re following the law, as I told you.

“We reached out to the Police Service Commission, which had the mandate and the responsibility, not the Government, to assess her work during the period of the year that she served in the extension, and they responded to us because we asked did you do a review and, if so, can you help us, what is your finding?”

Hinds said the commission “came back telling us, having looked at a number of different cri­­­teria, they came back telling us her overall rating was good, so we knew the Police Service Commission, which appointed her, and we extended and now want to consider a further extension, they having assessed her performance in the last year and found that it was good. And with that in mind, we were more emboldened to act in accordance with the law and public inte­rest expectations.”

He said when the Government looked at the commission’s assessment of a good rating for Christopher, “we realised that they would have reached out to several stakeholders, not the least the remainder of the executive, the leadership or a sample thereof.... I notice the police association elatedly saying that they give full support to the Commissioner.”

Hinds said a good rating and combination of other factors guided the Government’s decision. He no­ted a few serious and imposing conditions influenced the decision, saying: “The first and foremost is the law, the Constitution and Section 75 of the Police Act, which permits the extension of an officer, along with, of course, I think Section 15. Anyway, Section 75 was the provision that our granting Madam Erla Harewood-Christopher the extension for the past year was challenged in the court and the court had to interpret that law, Section 75 of the Police Service Act as against the Constitution, and eventually found that...it was quite proper, nothing irregular, not unconstitutional but in keeping with the law.”

He said Government has noted that the Commission, on April 12, 2024, posted an advertisement inviting applications for the position.

He estimated the process could take six more months to be completed.

For this reason, Hinds said, the Government did not “want to return to the untenable, ungainly and undesirable situation of a Police Service with no Commissioner”.

“I told you our desire was to do that; we eventually got one failed experiment and then we got Mr Jacob who served and then Madam Christopher, having attained age 60, Section 15, I think it is, allows for extension of her service by the service commission, she being a First Division officer of the Police Service. So we moved to have her extension, as I told you it was challenged in the court, the court upheld what we have done,” he said.

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Postby Mmoney607 » May 15th, 2024, 12:01 pm

If people vote back in Rowley, why not

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Postby 16 cycles » May 21st, 2024, 5:56 pm

Erla, TTPS miss the mark on objectives
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According to figures compiled for the commissioner’s Compstat between January 1 and May 13, 2024, compared to the same period last year, police are falling behind in five categories.

 

Falling behind

 

• While a ten per cent reduction rate in murders was set as a goal, the police were only able to achieve a seven per cent decrease. As of Friday, the murder toll stood at 208, compared to 225 for the same period last year. Of this figure, only 23 murders have been considered solved for the year thus far.

 

• While the TTPS had hoped for a murder detection rate of 20 per cent, they only achieved an 11 per cent detection rate. 

 

• The detection rate for violent crime was also well below the target of 25 per cent, with only 17 per cent achieved.

 

• On the issue of illegal gun seizures, not only did the TTPS fail to meet the prescribed 15 per cent increase, but a 28 per cent drop in the number of guns found was reported.

 

• Car thefts were also a challenge for police, with a 17 per cent increase reported for the year thus far compared to the ten per cent reduction set as a goal.

 

Improvements

 

Despite these shortcomings, the report also outlined three areas where the TTPS has seen some improvements.

 

• These include a 17 per cent drop in violent crime, a 19 per cent decrease in Serious Reported Crimes (SRCs), and a 19 per cent decrease in fatal Road Traffic Accidents (RTAs).

 

• Some improvement has been observed as another report analysing data gathered between January 1 and April 1 showed at that time only two target objectives—reductions in SRCs and fatal RTAs—were met.

 

Murders particularly 
high in three divisions

 

Murders remain a nationwide concern, but data contained in the Compstat report revealed that the Port-of-Spain, Western and Tobago divisions were actively driving the murder toll.

Figures reported that as of May 13, there were 39 murders in the Port-of-Spain Division, compared to only 15 for the same period in 2023.

One of the more significant bursts of violence reported for the year thus far was observed in Harpe Place when five men were killed in a drive-by shooting in March.

The murders are believed to be part of ongoing warfare between Sixx and Seven gangs. No one was arrested or charged for the murders as of Wednesday evening.

Of the 39 murders in the Port-of-Spain Division, only three have been detected.

For years, the Port-of-Spain Division has had a relatively low individual murder toll compared to the Northern, North-Central and Central divisions.

During her Independence Day toast to the nation last year, Harewood-Christopher acknowledged that the North-Central Division which covers a significant stretch of the east-west Corridor was one of the divisions where an active increase in the murder toll was reported.

One senior officer said the return of the Port-of-Spain Division as a murder “hotbed” was worrying as it signalled unrest in the underworld.

“Usually when these kinds of murders increase in numbers around the capital, which is for want of a better term, the ‘headquarters’ of these gangs that means big changes are going on.

“It also means that there are a lot more incidents of violence to come before things can calm down again. We, the police, do our best, but ultimately we can’t be everywhere at once.”

The officer noted the brazen nature of some killings in the capital earlier this year, particularly the murder of Akeil Archer who was gunned down at the Queen’s Park Savannah in January, and the killing of Omar Hunte at the Breakfast Shed days later. Both murders occurred in broad daylight.

In the Western Division, there have been 23 murders for the year thus far, a marked increase from 14 reported for the same period in 2023.

On May 4, gunmen opened fire on a group of limers in Powder Magazine, Cocorite, killing four men and wounding eight others. These murders are also believed to be caused by ongoing gang warfare.

One source said the uptick in violence was believed to be a spillover from the feud in neighbouring Port-of-Spain Division.

In the Tobago Division, eight murders were reported as of May 13, compared to six for the same period last year.

In the most recent killing, Nikeisha Sandy was gunned down at Arnos Vale Road, Plymouth. Sandy is the third woman to be killed in Tobago in 2024 thus far, behind Deborah Gopaul, whose burnt remains were found off the Claude Noel Highway on March 26 and Shellon Walters-Joseph whose body was found over a precipice on May 4.

Of the remaining seven police divisions, the North Eastern Division showed the largest drop in murders, with 20 murders being reported as of May 13, compared to 42 murders for the same period last year.

 

Fewer guns being seized

 

As of May 13, police have seized 193 guns, compared to 267 for the same period in 2023.

For the year thus far, pistols were the most numerous type of gun seized, followed by revolvers and rifles.

One police source said while the seizure of automatic weapons in Santa Cruz, Carapo, and Princes Town in 2023 led to a “shortage” of weapons on the street, it was equally likely that smugglers and criminal clients have changed their strategies in how importing and hiding weapons.

In 2022, National Security Minister Fitzgerald Hinds reported that there were approximately 12,000 illegal guns in T&T.

Then police commissioner McDonald Jacob spearheaded the beginning of a gun-retrieval campaign combining intelligence from the Strategic Services Agency (SSA), Special Investigations Unit (SIU) and foreign agencies, particularly the Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) Unit.


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