COVID-19 in Trinidad & Tobago (Local Updates & Discussions Only)

[st7]

then doh take the vaccine *shrugs

Yea just continue spinning top in mud

do u know what that means? i doh think you do because you seem to not understand what you saying.

anyway, if you doh trust the vaccine doh take it *shrugs

nobody forcing you to take it, and if you take it it will be against all your morals you claim to have.

[adnj]

Covid: Why are UK cases so high?

Thanks to the vaccine, getting infected is now much less likely to land you in hospital. But soaring cases - which are outstripping some European nations - are still proving a cause for concern.

The more virus there is about, the more chances there are for it to break through the defences of vaccines, reach vulnerable people and put pressure on health services.

What do the figures show?

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Less mask-wearing?

UK residents were significantly more likely than people in Germany, France, Spain and Italy to say they no longer wear a face mask or covering.

Covid cases are higher in the UK than in any of those countries - but we can't necessarily say that one is causing the other.

Looser rules, more mixing?

The UK relaxed many restrictions sooner than most of the rest of Western Europe. People in England, Wales and Scotland have been able to go to nightclubs and attend gatherings of unlimited numbers of people since the summer, unlike in many other countries.

Imperial College survey data suggests people in the UK are slightly more likely than some of their nearest European neighbours to take public transport, and less likely to avoid going out.

Waning immunity?

The UK surged ahead in its rollout of the vaccine. That's undoubtedly saved many lives by preventing severe cases of Covid, but this early progress could give a clue as to why the country is facing higher cases now.

A study - of Covid test results of vaccinated people who logged their symptoms in an app - suggested the vaccine's protection against catching the virus wanes significantly after five or six months.

Stalled vaccine rollout?

The UK's quick start in its vaccination rollout has stalled in recent months. Its rate of fully-vaccinated people no longer ranks in the top 10 countries with a population of at least one million.

In the first two weeks of October, the proportion of the British public aged 12 and over who had received at least one dose of the vaccine barely moved.

A government spokesperson said: "The vaccination programme has significantly weakened the link between cases, hospitalisations and deaths, and will continue to be our first line of defence against Covid-19.

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58954793

[widdyphuck]

Russia in a mess with a death record of 1036 within the last 24 hours.

[adnj]

Trust the science

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The UK has more than 4x Trinidad's confirmed COVID cases per million people.

The UK has about 1/2 of Trinidad's COVID deaths per million people.

The UK has no COVID restrictions.

The UK is 68% fully vaccinated.

[redmanjp]

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Hey now, let the UK be a test bed to see what the future holds. It'd be very interesting to see what happens this winter.

some measures, doubt it will be lockdowns. perhaps just masks and limited capacity instead of complete closures. maybe safe zones.

[hover11]

Where Dohplaydat, didn't you state that covid doesn't live on surfaces for long so why are companies still using these harsh sanitization methods if that is the case?

FCB workers fall ill during COVID-19 sanitisation at branch

By

 Guardian Media Newsroom

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October 22, 2021

[https://i0]Customers line up outside FCB’s San Fernando branch yesterday, a day after seven staff members fell ill after becoming exposed to bio-fogging chemicals used at the bank to sanitise for COVID-19.

radhica.sookraj@guardian.co.tt
Seven staff members of First Citizens’ San Fernando branch suffered nose-bleeds, shortness of breath, wheezing, nausea, throat tightness, body pains and vomiting on Thursday, after they came into contact with bio-fogging chemicals a day after another worker tested positive for COVID-19.
Questions are now being asked about why the workers and customers were allowed into the building while the bio-fogging was taking place.

A source said around 3 pm on Wednesday, information surfaced that a staff member had tested positive for COVID-19.
A sanitisation company was called in to bio-fog the workspace between 6.30 am to 7.30 am on Thursday.
Concerns were raised by staffers about whether the building would be safe for occupation and the workers were reportedly told it was. They were advised they should report to duty as usual at 7.45 am the next day. Over 50 workers usually report for work at that time.
However, on Thursday when the staffers came in, the bio-fogging crew was busy sanitising the teller area, as well as the vaults.

Staffers were told to enter through the basement located at Penitence Street. The bio-fogging crew wore respiratory masks and hazmat suits. They then left the vault and went to sanitise the basement.
Minutes later, tellers were told to go to the vault to get their daily cash. When the bank was opened promptly at 8 am, customers were oblivious that bio-fogging was taking place.
Shortly after, a supervisor at the bank fell ill and began experiencing breathing problems.
“More workers began complaining and had trouble breathing, complained of headaches, chest pains, nausea, feeling weak and dizzy. All that happened. The supervisor went in an ambulance, she could not breathe. Seven others fell ill, the tellers and telephone operator, yet the bank stayed open,” the source added.

Guardian Media understands that the workers were taken to San Fernando General Hospital, but after being told they would have to wait at the COVID testing area, where other COVID-19-positive cases were being checked, the workers decided to go to Surgi-Med Clinic in San Fernando. They were monitored their vitals checked and they were given chest X-rays and ECGs but no COVID tests were done.
The workers were discharged and given medicine but the source said some of them had to go back for intravenous liquids overnight.
When Guardian Media contacted a senior official at the bank yesterday, he denied he gave clearance to the workers and customers to enter the bank while bio-fogging was being conducted. He declined further comment and directed questions to the head of FCB’s Brand and Marketing Gillian Benjamin.
However, calls and messages to Benjamin went unanswered.

[hover11]

Wait, you mean to tell me that a company is believing in a product that it manufacturers? I'm sure they have great moral intentions with no greed involved at all

[adnj]

Where Dohplaydat, didn't you state that covid doesn't live on surfaces for long so why are companies still using these harsh sanitization methods if that is the case?

You can contact COVID from surfaces but that is not the most likely mechanism.

How COVID-19 is spread

The most common way you can get COVID-19 is by coming into close contact with someone who has the virus.

Close contact

COVID-19 is mainly spread through the air in drops of liquid that come from the nose and mouth of an infected person.

Airborne spread

In crowded indoor places with poor ventilation, tiny drops containing the virus can sometimes spread over a longer distance.

Infected surfaces

You can also get the virus from infected surfaces. For example, when someone who has the virus sneezes or coughs, droplets with the virus can fall onto surfaces around them.

If you touch that surface and then touch your eyes, nose or mouth, you could become infected too.

Getting COVID-19 from surfaces is probably much less common than getting it through the air from someone who has the virus. But keeping your hands clean can reduce the risk of getting COVID-19 and other infections.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/covid19/ ... us-spread/

[hover11]

Where Dohplaydat, didn't you state that covid doesn't live on surfaces for long so why are companies still using these harsh sanitization methods if that is the case?

You can contact COVID from surfaces but that is not the most likely mechanism.

How COVID-19 is spread

The most common way you can get COVID-19 is by coming into close contact with someone who has the virus.

Close contact

COVID-19 is mainly spread through the air in drops of liquid that come from the nose and mouth of an infected person.

Airborne spread

In crowded indoor places with poor ventilation, tiny drops containing the virus can sometimes spread over a longer distance.

Infected surfaces

You can also get the virus from infected surfaces. For example, when someone who has the virus sneezes or coughs, droplets with the virus can fall onto surfaces around them.

If you touch that surface and then touch your eyes, nose or mouth, you could become infected too.

Getting COVID-19 from surfaces is probably much less common than getting it through the air from someone who has the virus. But keeping your hands clean can reduce the risk of getting COVID-19 and other infections.

https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/covid19/ ... us-spread/

So safe to say, a simple wiping of surfaces with cleaning agents would suffice

[widdyphuck]

Wiĺl COVID-19 ever be over?

[aaron17]

Wiĺl COVID-19 ever be over?

I am sure a different virus will come around..much deadlier and will take precedence over this one.

[eitech]

Wiĺl COVID-19 ever be over?

All smokescreens eventually fade…

[hover11]

Wiĺl COVID-19 ever be over?

I am sure a different virus will come around..much deadlier and will take precedence over this one.

Very correct this was just a test trial ....a type of classical conditioning to see how society would accept such notions as vax passes and safe zones

[Kenjo]

then doh take the vaccine *shrugs

Yea just continue spinning top in mud

Proposed solution ?

[hover11]

then doh take the vaccine *shrugs

Yea just continue spinning top in mud

Proposed solution ?

Were they not the same country under boris leadership that disregarded what the scientists were saying such as mask wearing and keeping the restrictions, stating that they will live with the virus why now are you returning to eat your own vomit, when you could have kept the restrictions and mask wearing in the first place. Proposed solution :stop pretending that the virus is going to disappear because you want it to be over , it doesn't work like that

[Kenjo]

So keep a compromise with restrictions and do all measures such as vaccination , masks , social distancing etc

[hover11]

So keep a compromise with restrictions and do all measures such as vaccination , masks , social distancing etc

Exactly those deaths were unwarranted if they kept the restrictions and mask wearing but no they decided that they were back to normal but covid had another opinion on that matter, just yesterday we had over 300 cases with mask wearing a tiny country like this

[eitech]

What really causing the general rise in infections? Is it the unvaxxed, or people in general not following the basic protocols what was stated from the start?

[hover11]

What really causing the general rise in infections? Is it the unvaxxed, or people in general not following the basic protocols what was stated from the start?

I believe it is both tbh, a majority of the public think that because they are vaccinated they are somewhat immune and safe from harm, so they flaunt the rules or relax them a bit to the point where if you tell a man to pull up his mask he quick to tell you I vaccinated what's the problem, so you see what we dealing with......

[hover11]

So we've been lied to all along when they said that the Delta variant was extremely deadly and would lead to more hospitalizations? This is why a lot of us do not believe nor trust the CDC

[Dohplaydat]

So we've been lied to all along when they said that the Delta variant was extremely deadly and would lead to more hospitalizations? This is why a lot of us do not believe nor trust the CDCFB_IMG_1634997910507.jpg

Honestly, it was always hard to say if Delta was more deadly than the original strain. What did seem worse with the newer variants was that younger people were getting sicker resulting in somewhat healthy middle-aged persons dying. Overall though the stats didn't show any significant increase in CFR. However, deaths could have gone up due to fewer hospital facilities to treat the sick.

[MaxPower]

Wiĺl COVID-19 ever be over?

Only a human action can make that possible.

We must ALL follow the protocols.

[MaxPower]

So we've been lied to all along when they said that the Delta variant was extremely deadly and would lead to more hospitalizations? This is why a lot of us do not believe nor trust the CDC

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Jason,

The cases and deaths alone could tell us that. Look how long the Delta is here.

They should stop reporting Delta cases and report normally rather than causing panic. It’s either you have Covid or not.

[st7]

So we've been lied to all along when they said that the Delta variant was extremely deadly and would lead to more hospitalizations? This is why a lot of us do not believe nor trust the CDCFB_IMG_1634997910507.jpg

look at this c9nt hover...posting sheit without context because he so desperate to be right about something.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/live-upda ... 5#80732058

A new report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests that although the delta variant is significantly more transmissible than prior variants, it is not more likely to lead to hospitalization.

Instead, the dramatic uptick in hospitalizations seen during the summer's delta surge was fueled by the highly transmissible variant spreading easily among mostly unvaccinated people, the CDC said.

The report, which analyzed COVID-19 hospitalization data from 14 states, also found that the proportion of people aged 18 to 49 hospitalized with delta increased "significantly" in July and August to 35.8% of all hospitalizations compared to 24.7% from January to June of this year. This was likely due to lower vaccination rates among younger people, the CDC said.

-ABC News' Sony Salzman

ouch... u look at a real dumb c8nt again. must have come outta one too to be this way

[aaron17]

all responses are too general . That's why there would be back and forth talk like this.

[hover11]

all responses are too general . That's why there would be back and forth talk like this.

Which makes them look highly indecisive and incompetent

[sMASH]

https://youtu.be/H7inaTiDKaU


Forcing the givt to acknowledge and de with negative side effects from the vaccines.

[adnj]

So we've been lied to all along when they said that the Delta variant was extremely deadly and would lead to more hospitalizations? This is why a lot of us do not believe nor trust the CDC

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No. You are lying to yourself. No one, NO ONE has said any VOC was more deadly, save for the Alpha variant in the UK but this was not definitive.

What has been said, time and time again, is that the VOCs are mutating to become more transmissible and more able to evade immunity.

Anything else is some dumb sh*t that you thought up.

https://www.publichealth.Colombia.edu/p ... s-immunity

https://deadline.com/2021/10/delta-plus ... 234858486/

[widdyphuck]

Some people still don't know how to wear a mask properly.

[adnj]

all responses are too general . That's why there would be back and forth talk like this.

Which makes them look highly indecisive and incompetent