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Computerman wrote:Can you elaborate as to when this rule was infringed upon?nismo_demon wrote:wagonrunner wrote:if this is a rule then i have no problem whatsoever with it, it just has to be followed at all times and it must be made clear to all competitors, am i being unfair or unreasonable?
wagonrunner wrote:you're not unfair or unreasonable.
I am saying it's a law of life.
Who finishes first, wins (except in case of red-light / breakout). right. And it is possible for a faster ET to finish last.
So my next question, can you give an example when it wasn't followed? based on "all the time".
forgot the breakout part. sorry about that.
vtmiller11 wrote:I absolutely ppreciate a competitor's right to seek clarification on competition issues and would like some clarification myself. It's no secret that quite a few competitors in 2B have complained about 'sandbaggers' (me too, at one point, but I've since moved on). What I find absolutely hilarious now though, is the fact that the breakout time was moved from 56 to 55 seconds and competitors still breaking out . Mr. Autosport please change the breakout time to 54 next event just to see if our 'B' drivers could continue to breakout and run 53s like the 'A' drivers.
AutoSport wrote:Should we run Classes according to the real capability of car and driver, that is, discard the 1600 Class 1 limit, the 2000 Class 2 limit etc.
And come up with classes, 59 secs, 58 secs, 57 secs, etc..
So we can see the real potential of driver and car, note carefully, THE REAL POTENTIAL OF CAR AND DRIVER!
wagonrunner wrote:AutoSport wrote:Should we run Classes according to the real capability of car and driver, that is, discard the 1600 Class 1 limit, the 2000 Class 2 limit etc.
And come up with classes, 59 secs, 58 secs, 57 secs, etc..
So we can see the real potential of driver and car, note carefully, THE REAL POTENTIAL OF CAR AND DRIVER!
Should have been it from day one. Bracket race around corners.
That engine CC thing has too many holes.
8 classes, a second gap each.
the problem with that is consistency, tires that put you in a class today, when worn could see you out of your league two three events down.
I agree with the bracket system. Let competitors utilise the first two events to determine their class (for those who don't know where they 'fall') and 'lock in' from event #3.AutoSport wrote:wagonrunner wrote:AutoSport wrote:Should we run Classes according to the real capability of car and driver, that is, discard the 1600 Class 1 limit, the 2000 Class 2 limit etc.
And come up with classes, 59 secs, 58 secs, 57 secs, etc..
So we can see the real potential of driver and car, note carefully, THE REAL POTENTIAL OF CAR AND DRIVER!
Should have been it from day one. Bracket race around corners.
That engine CC thing has too many holes.
8 classes, a second gap each.
the problem with that is consistency, tires that put you in a class today, when worn could see you out of your league two three events down.
That is not a problem, allow free movement up or down, and still do not have to bother with upgrades, not even Turbo.
When this was discussed at the 1st meeting the majority decided to stay with the existing system. So, although my personal preference is to use the 'brackets only' system, I support the decision that was taken based on the input from the competitors.ng357 wrote:i agree with the bracket racing for one reason that it wud encourage driver ability rather dan spending a lot of money on ur car to be competitive. some people have to purchase expensive tires, upgrade to coilovers etc just to keep up and still may not be too close to first. thats just my opinion
afternex2 wrote:This is not drag racing, times are not 10 11 12 seconds they are 50 plus seconds buh anyway.
afternex2 wrote:I didn't kno u use examples frm one type to another. But anyway no need to get all technical professor. Do u always point out stuff, thinkin that u alone can understand what the other person wrote, since u kno stuff tell me some more about how they check times on d slip when qualifyin cars boss man?
afternex2 wrote:I didn't kno u use examples frm one type to another.
Yup it's done all the time, for easier referencing. Did you do CXC English?
In CXC English it's called "Comparison and Contrast". It makes life very easy when explaining a more technical subject to a person of lesser intelligence.
But anyway no need to get all technical professor.
It was very simple actually. I just read it to a 12 yrold....they seemed to understand Are we talking about the same thing here?
Do u always point out stuff, thinkin that u alone can understand what the other person wrote, since u kno stuff tell me some more about how they check times on d slip when qualifyin cars boss man?
NO. I'm not telling you anything until you apologise to me, and your fellow tuners. Now sit in the corner and think about what you just did.
afternex2 wrote:i gettin d info sir rasc.no need to beat up k.thanks for ur explanation though,ur too kind.
Quite rightly so! It's bracket racing, not "PINKS All Out"!pete wrote:Ideally, if you want to win the bracket, the car should be FASTER than the bracket time.
vtmiller11 wrote:I absolutely ppreciate a competitor's right to seek clarification on competition issues and would like some clarification myself. It's no secret that quite a few competitors in 2B have complained about 'sandbaggers' (me too, at one point, but I've since moved on). What I find absolutely hilarious now though, is the fact that the breakout time was moved from 56 to 55 seconds and competitors still breaking out . Mr. Autosport please change the breakout time to 54 next event just to see if our 'B' drivers could continue to breakout and run 53s like the 'A' drivers.
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