I had a bad experience with a Toyota filter that I bought locally from a reseller sometime ago. After servicing, oil started leaking from around the filter while driving. It could have cost me an engine.
Last week, the same thing happened with my father in law. He serviced at a popular garage (diagnostic services etc in Mc Bean opposite a savannah) and paid for a genuine filter. After he got home, he realized oil was leaking from around the filter.. (His vehicle wasn't a Toyota but another popular brand) .
When he took it back, the garage owner said, he's been having that problem a lot with oem brands.
Please note that this information is for educational purposes only and by no way meant to dis-credit anyone on the forum.
Re: Good Info to know
Posted: October 9th, 2012, 6:49 am
by Paullct
i chose the one on the left because it said made in japan and had 'japanese' writing as opposed to the one that said made in thailand and it had french translation. i really don't know for sure.
good post nevertheless
Re: Good Info to know
Posted: October 9th, 2012, 10:58 am
by badart
very difficult to tell which one is fake, the major difference between the two is the size
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 9th, 2012, 9:16 pm
by ranger
not necessarily a fake...two different part numbers....two different filters.....
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 9th, 2012, 9:51 pm
by wagonrunner
ranger wrote:not necessarily a fake...two different part numbers....two different filters.....
even though googling toyota 90195-20003 returns nothing? googling toyota 90195-yzzd3 has lots of info though.
noone in the habit of doing that before they make purchases?
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 10th, 2012, 6:48 am
by ruffrider27
Went in TTTL Monday, in a glass show case they have the fake and real oil filters,the real is made in Japan and inside is made up of a spongy honey mustard color fabric layers and the fake is just a light yellow paper filter inside and is made in Thailand,so i'll chose the one on the left ,the price was $140 for the original.
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 10th, 2012, 8:10 am
by ranger
http://www.toyotapartszone.com/oem/toyo ... htmlToyota Part: FILTER, OIL Part NO.: 90915-20003 Genuine Toyota Parts backed by Manufacturers WarrantyShipped quickly from Authorized Toyota DealershipLowest Price with Award Winning Customer Service Your Price:$3.96 Toyota's Retail Price:$5.41 You Save:$1.45 Qty. Notes: Replaced by: 90915-YZZD1 To check if this part fits your vehicle using the VIN, click here. Compatibility Info: Part No. 90915-20003 fits the vehicle applications listed below: ModelProduction DateEngineTransmissionTrimBodyDoor Tacoma 2008.05- 4cyl 2.7L Tacoma 2004.09-2008.05 4cyl 2.7L Tacoma 2000.09-2004.09 4cyl 2.4L MTM DLX Tacoma 2000.09-2004.09 4cyl 2.4L ATM DLX Tacoma 2000.09-2004.09 4cyl 2.7L MTM DLX Tacoma 2000.09-2004.09 4cyl 2.7L ATM DLX Tacoma 2000.09-2004.09 6cyl 3.4L MTM SR5 Tacoma 2000.09-2004.09 6cyl 3.4L MTM DLX Tacoma 2000.09-2004.09 6cyl 3.4L ATM SR5 Tacoma 2000.09-2004.09 6cyl 3.4L ATM DLX Tacoma 1999.08-2000.09 4cyl 2.4L MTM DLX Tacoma 1999.08-2000.09 4cyl 2.4L ATM DLX Tacoma 1999.08-2000.09 4cyl 2.7L MTM DLX Tacoma 1999.08-2000.09 4cyl 2.7L ATM DLX Tacoma 1999.08-2000.09 6cyl 3.4L MTM SR5 Tacoma 1999.08-2000.09 6cyl 3.4L MTM DLX Tacoma 1999.08-2000.09 6cyl 3.4L ATM SR5 Tacoma 1999.08-2000.09 6cyl 3.4L ATM DLX Highlander 2007.08- 6cyl 3.3L STD Highlander 2007.08- 6cyl 3.3L LIMD
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 10th, 2012, 8:57 am
by FilterProz
Hey Guys please see attached Pic ,
This Is what I have been selling to multiple large customers (vehicle owners and dealers) over the last couple of months. As you can see it is made in Thailand and I can assure this was purchased from Toyota Thailand directly. There is no French writing on it and the box is totally different . I sell these for 55.00 and for my next shipment I will post my Delivery note from Toyota Thailand. $140.00 is way to expensive for this item as I can bring 90915-20003 for the same $55.00 from Japan. What I will do as I am currently out of stock I will bring in both part numbers(japan and thailand) for the same price and I will purchase a filter from Toyota just to prove how much we are robbed....lol
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 10th, 2012, 12:49 pm
by Rory Phoulorie
FilterProz wrote:. . . .I will bring in both part numbers(japan and thailand) for the same price and I will purchase a filter from Toyota just to prove how much we are robbed....lol
This is what I can't quite understand. The local Toyota dealership was taken over by the parent company of Toyota when Robert Amar was "distracted" with his other businesses. So it is not a local dealership "robbing" us, but the Toyota Corporation itself. Why would they not provide competitive pricing since they are in control?
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 10th, 2012, 3:37 pm
by badart
I dont know about u guys but TTTL charged me $66.78 for an oil filter, my last service (70,000km) cost $900 how great is tht!
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 10th, 2012, 4:56 pm
by wagonrunner
badart wrote:I dont know about u guys but TTTL charged me $66.78 for an oil filter, my last service (70,000km) cost $900 how great is tht!
$900?? what model lexus SUV was that?
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 10th, 2012, 9:30 pm
by badart
wagonrunner wrote:
badart wrote:I dont know about u guys but TTTL charged me $66.78 for an oil filter, my last service (70,000km) cost $900 how great is tht!
$900?? what model lexus SUV was that?
LX570
Have no problem at all paying tht since i service every 10k which is twice a year, the cheapest i ever paid was $600 at TTTL, average service is $1200, while the average service we pay at ANSA is $1600.
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 12th, 2012, 6:51 am
by Aaron 2NR
i'm also seeing this as being the correct filter for my truck
my truck was bought from maska and all you pay for is parts (i.e oil, filters) my service is usually $900-$1100(if i change fuel filter)
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 14th, 2012, 6:02 am
by sweeks
The filter on the left turns out to be the fake.
Both part numbers are valid. It's very difficult to tell by just looking at it however the following can help:
- the original Toyota sticker (not found on all boxes but on the d4d oil filter boxes). - the original filter has a plastic seal over the filter opening to prevent any dust particles from entering the filter. - believe it or not TTTL uses the original filter for two oil changes (I've used them up to 16000km). - know and trust your supplier bearing in mind that cheaper isn't always better. Most parts place will resale to make an extra dollar. It's your respondsibility to ensure that whatever you parts your vehicle uses will be safe and protect your investment in the long run.
Thanks for all your input and thanks Aaron for the photos.
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 14th, 2012, 4:55 pm
by homeboy
ruffrider27 wrote:Went in TTTL Monday, in a glass show case they have the fake and real oil filters,the real is made in Japan and inside is made up of a spongy honey mustard color fabric layers and the fake is just a light yellow paper filter inside and is made in Thailand,so i'll chose the one on the left ,the price was $140 for the original.
So people buying all pickup trucks coming from Thailand and it's original but the spare parts are fake? interesting............
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 14th, 2012, 7:52 pm
by sweeks
Apparently there are factories in the Asian countries that would run off a minimum of a 100 filters any brand. You describe what you want, tell them what brand you want and they can make it. Those fakes are so good that it's hard for an inexperience person to tell the difference. The difference is mostly in the quality and build of the product.
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 19th, 2012, 11:20 pm
by FilterProz
Hey guys ,
Just adding to this thread so you all can be aware when buying your products...
I added The pics of the Cases for Oil Filter and Disc Pads for vigo/ Fortuner , need to confirm if 2012 running the same setup..
This is just what to look for when buying these products...
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 20th, 2012, 6:43 am
by ruffrider27
FilterProz wrote:Hey guys ,
Just adding to this thread so you all can be aware when buying your products...
I added The pics of the Cases for Oil Filter and Disc Pads for vigo/ Fortuner , need to confirm if 2012 running the same setup..
This is just what to look for when buying these products...
to put this to rest ,cut one oil filter in half ,let's see what's inside made up of cause TTTL ,has the fake and original in a case both are cut in half ,will take a pic,today.
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: October 20th, 2012, 7:27 am
by Aaron 2NR
the 2012 hilux brakes look different from those on the 2011.....await confirmation from yall....
pm me your price list for ford and toyota parts plz
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: December 28th, 2012, 6:30 pm
by topshotta20
Really dont know what to believe both have the original Toyota sticker on it
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: December 30th, 2012, 11:31 pm
by Team Loco
Interesti.g. I have 3 different variations to these filters at work. Gonna check them asap
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: January 4th, 2013, 9:50 pm
by FilterProz
hey guys ,
Just to add to this discussion , Toyota is not the only brand with multiple filters for the same Van , See attached for the navara from nissan .
The grey filter is sold by nissan Thailand(used by import maska mrampersad etc) , the black is made by nissan Europe (used by neal and massy) both are inter -changeable and I have heard that the grey one is fake as well. The best defense is buy from trusted suppliers, in opening i faced issues of my parts being fake and customers skeptical , but any honest business can work through this as alot of tuners have used my parts and saved, and can easily recommend me .
Just be careful and examine your products properly before buying...
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: January 5th, 2013, 12:40 am
by lighthammer
^^ i hope you have more of them black filters in stock eh bai!
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: January 21st, 2013, 2:10 pm
by FilterProz
lighthammer wrote:^^ i hope you have more of them black filters in stock eh bai!
hey guys just posting an update to this thread noticed when i brought in the 90915-20003 two months ago it was made in japan . It seems toyota japan changed it to the same Denso part no as the 90915-yzdd2....as you can see in the first pic 90915-20003 is now made in thailand .
The difference you may as well about 35.00 dollars as 90915-yzdd2 cost about 45.00tt abd 90915-20003 cost about 80.00 for the exact same part made in the same country and at the same factory just different part numbers
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: August 23rd, 2013, 1:48 pm
by mad
Using SAKURA aftermarket in all my vans. No problems at all. Cheap and gets the job done.
Re: Can you tell the fake?
Posted: August 1st, 2014, 9:50 am
by Xplode
Ordered some Toyota oil filters online and came across some videos and remembered this thread