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Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 9:53 am
by ronsin1
Any one in this group has ever considered Bio-Diesel and the benefits of it.

From what I have heard there is one person some where in the west that is using bio-diesel in his truck.

Will it have the required combustion as regular diesel.
How will it benefit you engine

I have done some research and everything indicated is positive.

But it seems due to production cost local companies do not want to invest.

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 10:08 am
by civic minded
from what i understand - bio diesel is better than regular diesel, burns better, less pollution and better for your engine. You get more HP from it as well

Downside is that - it is made from Organic - and alot of corn and maize is needed to make it. We being such a small country- it will be uneconomical to go bio-diesel.

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 11:14 am
by ronsin1
but the thing is you can also use old vegetable oil to make it. There is one company that now collects this old oil from various restaurants, purifies it and send it abroad to make bio diesel.

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 11:49 am
by sweeks
I believe it's available in Barbados but doubt unsure if we can get it here.

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 12:09 pm
by Haunted
there is a guy who does it down here...the guy with the mystic hemp van

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 12:52 pm
by CD4Accord
Troy is the man name and he have it on his L200 (i think)

Worth asking him how he did it.. If I remember from a UK experiment, all you needed fo biodiesel was the used vegetable oil, a good screen filter to take out the solids, then add 1oz pure white spirits for every litre of biodiesel and good to go..

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 3:30 pm
by badart
bio diesel would the alternative energy source of the future mainly because its cheap to produce compared to fuel cells etc, alot of ppl in the UK are starting to use bio-diesel

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 3:34 pm
by lighthammer
there was a topgear episode on this... can't remember if they used old restaurant oil. I do remember there was an episode where they tried to grow their own biodiesel and then epically messed things up when they rented the tractors....


Also remember seeing something on Mythbusters, whether you can run an old mercedes e-class diesel on old restaurant oil - myth was confirmed.

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 4:08 pm
by PariaMan
Ride on Troy Hadeed’s veggie oil-fuelled van
Published: 18 Mar 2010
Troy Hadeed got tired of the smoke emanating from the use of diesel. Hadeed, 30, who already owns a successful and environmentally-conscious business: Mystic Hemp, selling clothes and other products made of organic ingredients like hemp, has converted his SsangYong Musso pick-up truck’s diesel engine to run on a dual tank—one for diesel, one for vegetable oil. Painted boldly on the left fender are the words: “Powered by waste vegetable oil.” For the last five months, Hadeed has been driving around in his truck fuelled by used vegetable oils he collects from popcorn fryers at MovieTowne and Spalkers restaurant in Cascade. Carlton Savannah hotel in St Ann’s is soon to come on board.

Since the switch, Hadeed said there’s been no change in the vehicle’s performance or decrease in the 11 days’ worth of mileage he’d normally get from a diesel engine. When he drove the truck back onto the lot where he purchased it two years ago, the head mechanic was amazed by how quiet the Mercedes engine was. Instead of producing clouds of familiar sooty smoke, the SsangYong Musso—painted bright green to reflect the environmentally-conscious 1960s—emits no visible exhaust. Hadeed’s psychedelically-coloured truck is the calling card of his new company: Ecoimpact. In partnership with the Telecommunication Services of T&T’s (TSTT) Live Green, Live Clean campaign, Ecoimpact plans to facilitate and promote using recycled veggie oil as fuel as a way to manage the disposal of cooking oil and reduce carbon emissions in T&T, TSTT said in a statement.

TSTT said it has already committed to eco-friendly waste disposal by ensuring its internal waste—batteries, paper, oils and ink toner—is safely disposed of by accredited material recyclers in accordance with international standards. Hadeed commended TSTT for supporting Ecoimpact and others who want to ensure that T&T’s modernisation takes place through sustainable, green methods. The unsafe practices of cooking oil disposal threaten that balance, TSTT said. “There’s no one collecting used cooking oil, and the laws about cooking oil disposal are not enforced. So it’s either frozen and thrown away, or poured down the drain,” Hadeed explained. “And that’s an environmental hazard.” According to the US Environmental Protection Agency, a gallon of diesel produces 22 pounds of carbon dioxide (Co2) emissions. It’s widely accepted that carbon emissions are linked to global warming.

Vegetable oil, though, is a carbon-neutral fuel, Hadeed said. It emits only as much Co2 as it absorbed while growing in the field as plants. It’s a win-win in terms of improving T&T’s eco impact, he said. “When I get out of my vehicle, I smell popcorn.” Ecoimpact plans to campaign widely so that private companies like TSTT and government agencies like the Environmental Management Authority (EMA) can get on board with this eco-friendly project. According to TSTT, converting one’s engine for use veggie oils as fuel costs about $15,000. The conversion of Hadeed’s vehicle was done by Ryan Garcia’s United Auto and Performance Ltd, 149 Eastern Main Road, Barataria. “They do all the installations of any vehicle that I sell a conversion kit to,” Hadeed said. “They are the only ones locally who do this kind of work. Other mechanics saw it as a joke. They gave it a shot. They wanted to do it well because if it worked, it could bring in new business.”

Hadeed said he’d been studying biofuels for the last four years. His initial intention was to run his vehicle on biodiesel, which is a chemical process involving blending vegetable oil with methanol and “a catalyst called sodium hydroxide.” Hadeed realised he wouldn’t have the time or money to produce biodiesel. “I was tired of running on diesel and polluting the atmosphere, so I decided to make the change on my own. Hadeed he plans to place drums at restaurants and fast food outlets and arrange to empty those drums once monthly, for a minimal fee, and take it to a storage facility for recycling. Eventually, he wants to collect all waste vegetable oils in the country.

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 4:12 pm
by PariaMan
Also check this link! Apparentlently the guy has a facebook page too!

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=294833&start=0

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 7:51 pm
by venum
CM, SVO is the one that will be more expensive as it is pure, just buy in supermarket, add some methanol I think and go thru

WVO is cheaper as it is made from waste, but takes more work to clean up and purify somewhat - u just can pass by KFC, collet oil strain and add to your tank

Lots of guys on the L200 owners club run it in their K74T model, less in the KB4T

I think that the common rails are more sensitive to the WVO than SVO

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 9th, 2011, 11:27 pm
by lighthammer
if i gonna run biodiesel in my common rail engine, i gonna make sure it's the best g*ddamned sunflower oil waste on the market.

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 10th, 2011, 9:16 pm
by venum
^ ^ ^ corn is most popular and the most economic

But if we talking bout luxury grade . . . Well some extra extra virgin olive oil should be your preference

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 11th, 2011, 12:37 am
by lighthammer
Mmmmm... extra virgin...

Not only will my truck run clean, it'll smell delicious too!

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 11th, 2011, 2:39 pm
by PariaMan
venum wrote:CM, SVO is the one that will be more expensive as it is pure, just buy in supermarket, add some methanol I think and go thru

WVO is cheaper as it is made from waste, but takes more work to clean up and purify somewhat - u just can pass by KFC, collet oil strain and add to your tank

Lots of guys on the L200 owners club run it in their K74T model, less in the KB4T

I think that the common rails are more sensitive to the WVO than SVO



Venum

I not clear do you have to modify your engine to use these oils?

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 11th, 2011, 3:40 pm
by ronsin1
no you do not need to modify you engine as far as I know

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 11th, 2011, 5:09 pm
by venum
the L200 guys in the Uk run without any modification to the engine

they add a second fuel tank though because theystart up on diesel and switch over to teh bio, then switch back to diesel to shutdown

can't start the engine on the bio

also need a heater for teh bio tank to keep it liquid as with teh cold climate it freezes or the water in it freezes

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 12th, 2011, 10:42 pm
by DSG
sweeks wrote:I believe it's available in Barbados but doubt unsure if we can get it here.


Yes its available in Barbados, a few companies manufacturer it. I'm yet to try some.

Re: Bio Diesel Benifits

Posted: May 13th, 2011, 11:14 pm
by MonsterPower
so anyone read the way to make it .. . both methods

i got a few empty barrrels and a contact in kfc .. anyone willing to help?