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rough idle with a/c

Posted: October 13th, 2010, 4:18 pm
by qd32
Hi, the problem I am having is this... Whenever the A/C is on in my van it idles roughly. The engine is a QD32 non turbo. Usually one would look for a Dashport Valve and adjust accordingly (on gas engines) but I am lost on a diesel.

Any suggestions?

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: October 14th, 2010, 4:57 am
by 3stagevtec
i'm not sure myself, but since diesels typically don't have any throttle bodies, i figure the step up control comes from the ecu, or some electronic fuel control.. assuming all the electrics are ok, i figure the problem could be as simple the need for a 'tune up'..

try the regular stuff and see if that helps.. fuel filter / air filter / injector cleaner etc..

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: October 14th, 2010, 10:25 am
by qd32
3stagevtec... thanks I already tried that yet same problem. thanks

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: October 14th, 2010, 11:45 am
by lighthammer
might be the a/c clutch or fuel control problems.

Carry it back to the stealership and ask them to do a full review.
Make sure you get to demonstrate & recreate the problem to the technicians - last time I brought my frontier to the stealership about a steering-rack noise, they couldn't reproduce the problem although I specifically wrote it down on the submission card when booking in.

If all else fails, bring the truck to a qualified AC-repair company to have it checked. Most likely it has something to do with the AC drawing power from the engine, since your engine is fine when the a/c is off.

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: October 14th, 2010, 11:47 am
by qd32
'Carry it back to the stealership and ask them to do a full review.'


oh yes yuh en easy...

my van was bought from the stealership in 2002...

they don't even what to smell me

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: October 14th, 2010, 2:39 pm
by termite01
I had the same problem when i bought my frontier with QD32

This is all i did and it worked
1) Change air filter if needed
2) Drain fuel filter or change both if neccessary. I put 3/4 filter with Redline into one of the fuel filters before priming
3) Put 3 to 4 corks of Redline in tank at each full up

Since then i had no problems

If that don't work you may need to check diesel specialist to service your pump and injectors

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: October 14th, 2010, 3:47 pm
by sweeks
Taking a long shot here ... but are the engine mounts good?

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: October 14th, 2010, 4:32 pm
by qd32
termite01 wrote:I had the same problem when i bought my frontier with QD32

This is all i did and it worked
1) Change air filter if needed
2) Drain fuel filter or change both if neccessary. I put 3/4 filter with Redline into one of the fuel filters before priming
3) Put 3 to 4 corks of Redline in tank at each full up

Since then i had no problems

If that don't work you may need to check diesel specialist to service your pump and injectors


I will try this.. what is the correct name for the Redline treatment

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: October 14th, 2010, 5:56 pm
by bigchief3679
you guys trying to frighten the man orr? it may be as simple as a loose vacuum hose on the AC step up soleniod, diaphragm needs adjusting or the solenoid itself. get someone to switch the AC on and off and look at the little arm on the diesel pump and see if it moves (unless its the electronic QD32)

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: October 15th, 2010, 3:57 pm
by qd32
ok bigchief will try this tomorrow thanks

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: October 16th, 2010, 9:32 am
by termite01
Redline Diesel Fuel Enchancer.
I usually pay $50 dollars a bottle

Re: rough idle with a/c----solved sort of......

Posted: November 1st, 2010, 7:30 am
by qd32
ok guys, I did a complete service, pump, adjusted valves etc... runs smooth.

one problem... the hose that runs from the air filter box to the intake burst in half. I have flashband holding it together now. This morning I will call the firm to get a cost of a replacement. But any suggestions on aftermarket parts to use and where it might be available?

I do serious mileage so the flashband not going to hold it for long.

thanks

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: November 1st, 2010, 11:49 am
by venum
when you were idling with A/C on and experiencing the rough idle

when u stepped on the throttle did the rough vibration stop

if so, then a manual step up on the injection pump may be needed

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: November 1st, 2010, 12:02 pm
by qd32
venum wrote:when you were idling with A/C on and experiencing the rough idle

when u stepped on the throttle did the rough vibration stop

if so, then a manual step up on the injection pump may be needed


absolutely right.....my van although it came with a/c it did not come with the step up.

Know where i can get one?

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: November 1st, 2010, 1:23 pm
by venum
any knowledgeable diesel mech would be abke to do that

prob need to raise the idle by 100 - 200 rpm

adjustment done to the rest/idle position of the throttle on the injection pump

Re: rough idle with a/c----solved sort of......

Posted: November 3rd, 2010, 8:34 pm
by bleedingfreak
qd32 wrote:ok guys, I did a complete service, pump, adjusted valves etc... runs smooth.

one problem... the hose that runs from the air filter box to the intake burst in half. I have flashband holding it together now. This morning I will call the firm to get a cost of a replacement. But any suggestions on aftermarket parts to use and where it might be available?

I do serious mileage so the flashband not going to hold it for long.

thanks


Trinidad Hose on Mucarapo Rd in POS.
They will actually sleeve it for you as well. Just take out the old one and carry it. However, if you have alot of bends in the line, it may get alil more complex but nothing they cant handle.
Clamps, everything they gots... When they done is just a swap in...

Cost me about 1/10th the price of buying the hose by Toyota

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: November 3rd, 2010, 8:36 pm
by bleedingfreak
qd32 wrote:
venum wrote:when you were idling with A/C on and experiencing the rough idle

when u stepped on the throttle did the rough vibration stop

if so, then a manual step up on the injection pump may be needed


absolutely right.....my van although it came with a/c it did not come with the step up.

Know where i can get one?


Check ah A/C place...? But be warned its bloody expensive....

Re: rough idle with a/c----solved sort of......

Posted: November 4th, 2010, 10:51 am
by qd32
bleedingfreak wrote:
qd32 wrote:ok guys, I did a complete service, pump, adjusted valves etc... runs smooth.

one problem... the hose that runs from the air filter box to the intake burst in half. I have flashband holding it together now. This morning I will call the firm to get a cost of a replacement. But any suggestions on aftermarket parts to use and where it might be available?

I do serious mileage so the flashband not going to hold it for long.

thanks


Trinidad Hose on Mucarapo Rd in POS.
They will actually sleeve it for you as well. Just take out the old one and carry it. However, if you have alot of bends in the line, it may get alil more complex but nothing they cant handle.
Clamps, everything they gots... When they done is just a swap in...

Cost me about 1/10th the price of buying the hose by Toyota


will check them out thanks.... heh heh my sis in law works there 'that spells discount'..probably not... :(

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: November 7th, 2010, 3:44 pm
by dyna9275
u need to check the step up on the pump and see a professional like myself

Re: rough idle with a/c

Posted: November 10th, 2010, 12:58 pm
by qd32
dyna9275 wrote:u need to check the step up on the pump and see a professional like myself


that is the problem.. i have no step up... do you know where I can get one and for what price?