TECH Thread - MITSUBISHI L200, Sportero, Triton.

[firaz25]

Hey guys,

I changing all the belts one time so i would come check u out.
Wheres your place at?

It van was doing 79 000, shocking i know

[DVSTT]

Evaporator gone at 3 years :/. Have a 1999 hilux and the evaporator only recently went. Relly beginning to question the build quality of the sportero

[venum]

^^^ A/C evaporator and clock spring are know faults on teh sportero

King Kool were repairing lots of sporteros under warranty for DM

check them for a repair

[DVSTT]

^^^ A/C evaporator and clock spring are know faults on teh sportero

King Kool were repairing lots of sporteros under warranty for DM

check them for a repair

Kool but wat are clock springs? . You know where I can get the workshop manual for the van so I can see what needs to be done to get to the evaporator? All I have is the service manual.

[venum]

^^^ i don't have the service manual.

but access to teh evaporator usually involves removal of teh dashboard or parts of it

any A/C guy can diagnose it and will readily offer to do the repair

due to the nature of the repair you don't want any dumb F%*k doing it, so spend your $$$ by someone who can do it properly and neatly so when complete, you cannot tell that it was done

a "clock spring" which is in the steering column right under the steering wheel. It's called that because it simply looks like a clock spring that winds and unwinds. This is how they could make a positive electrical connection to the airbag and still be able to turn the wheel back and forth.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_an_a ... pring_work

[DVSTT]

^^^ i don't have the service manual.

but access to teh evaporator usually involves removal of teh dashboard or parts of it

any A/C guy can diagnose it and will readily offer to do the repair

due to the nature of the repair you don't want any dumb F%*k doing it, so spend your $$$ by someone who can do it properly and neatly so when complete, you cannot tell that it was done

a "clock spring" which is in the steering column right under the steering wheel. It's called that because it simply looks like a clock spring that winds and unwinds. This is how they could make a positive electrical connection to the airbag and still be able to turn the wheel back and forth.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_does_an_a ... pring_work

Well repairs were done and the evaporator changed, it works well and looks stock. A guy named Krishna from up couva did it, I think.

[venum]

great.


if u can share his number it would be great as many others gonna have this problem

[mighty]

Hey guys,

I changing all the belts one time so i would come check u out.
Wheres your place at?

It van was doing 79 000, shocking i know

Clearly a victim of an unscrupulous seller and a rolled back odometer………….

[DVSTT]

great.


if u can share his number it would be great as many others gonna have this problem

Ok I'll try and get it from my dad for you guys.

[bagoking]

guys i have a big problem. the camshaft pulley for the air condition compressor on my k74 4d56, part of it is broken so the ac belt runs on it but it runs and cuts lean anyone has an engine scrapping, i'm willing to buy it. i will be in trinidad next week.

[AllTrac]

tell me if this is legit grounds for divorce:

my wife came out of the passenger side of my triton this morning and managed to kick the door light lens cover with her pointed heels and cracked it. Seriously as soon as I heard the noise i just couldn't look, i actually turned the next way lol
Where can i get this lens cover?

[DVSTT]

tell me if this is legit grounds for divorce:

my wife came out of the passenger side of my triton this morning and managed to kick the door light lens cover with her pointed heels and cracked it. Seriously as soon as I heard the noise i just couldn't look, i actually turned the next way lol
Where can i get this lens cover?

First I ever heard of this happening, but ur wife should be worth more to you than your ride.....jk

But maybe check and see if anyone has a crashed one and buy the upholstery and remove the lens for the door light. Not near ours atm so can't remember if it screws off or built into the upholstery.

[venum]

doesn't screw, it clips into place

[AllTrac]

thanks venum and DVSTT

[FilterProz]

Hey guys,

I changing all the belts one time so i would come check u out.
Wheres your place at?

It van was doing 79 000, shocking i know

Clearly a victim of an unscrupulous seller and a rolled back odometer………….

yup...felt sorry for this guy...brought in rocker arms already and camshaft coming in tom plus belts..some ppl really wicked to do that..

[AllTrac]

What's you guys take on injecting grease into the boot rubber, do you do it?

[venum]

What's you guys take on injecting grease into the boot rubber, do you do it?

NO F$%KING WAY

I only put grease where there is a nipple to take it

the oem ball joints and rod ends do not have nipples like the older models - no injection for mine

[AllTrac]

I only put grease where there is a nipple to take it

well put

[tourniquet]

gents, a noobish question here, but how much engine oil does the 2.5L sportero take? I've only done the oil change on a hilux and navara, and those took a little over 1.5 gallons. Additionally, with the hilux, I noticed that once it crossed around 8000 kms (using amsoil and a change interval at 10,000km), it seemed to burn through almost a quart of oil; for those of you using amsoil in your mitsu, have you noticed this as well?

[venum]

^^^ my 3.2L doesn't burn any oil

I use Amsoil only, everywhere

the 3.2L takes 2 gallons and about 1/2 quart

the 2.5L should take the full 2 gallons

[tourniquet]

^^ as usual, thanks for the advice Just today I was looking at some of our old invoices from DM; turns out you're spot on with the 2 gallons Oh and just in case anyone's wondering, they use Total 10W40 (at least that's what the invoice said)

[venum]

^^ as usual, thanks for the advice Just today I was looking at some of our old invoices from DM; turns out you're spot on with the 2 gallons

no scene, anytime bro

they use Total 10W40 (at least that's what the invoice said)

yes they do use Total, now

they changed from Chevron which was a brief stint when they chnaged from Shell

not sure why they chnaged from Shell as Shell has great oils, prob got to expensive to buy from FT Farfan as teh Shell factory markets and distributes their automotive line exclusively from Farfan

the R6 diesel synth is supposed to be great, but I never tried it

used Rimula R4 in teh previous L200

running Shell in one Lancer and Amsoil in my Sportero

Total is supposed to be great stuff as well, but it don't dig French food [only]

[AllTrac]

decided to give my egr a clean, the following pics were taken Saturday when I removed it, my vehicle hasn't done 100K km yet in mileage.
Take a look at how much emissions crap the blows into the intake and how thick it was caked up:






^^ thats the end that bolts into the egr pipe



^^ thats the intake manifold.
I removed the egr motor first, then cleaned out the egr valve. Sorry, no after pics my hands were in a mess, couldnt hold the camera

[AllTrac]

oh, thats the 3.2 DiD

[AllTrac]

hey guys i have 5 qts of Mitsubishi auto transmission oil for sale, did a full transmission flush today and over estimated on how much oil i needed, ended up with 5 qts left back, i paid $70 a qt, willing to sell all 5 at $60 per qt. just for you guys.

[tourniquet]

Trac a few things:
1. wrt the EGR, what did you use to actually remove all that buildup? Is carburetor cleaner fine or is there a specific "EGR cleaner" out there
2. I read in the oil thread that you're using Amsoil engine oil, however, are you using their cetane and diesel concentrate additives as well? I mean it's clear you know what you're doing maintenance wise, but that looks pretty damn dirty
3. I'm gonna do the transmission flush for my next service, so I'll give someone else a chance and not be greedy (...yet ) For future reference though, how many quarts did you use? I think it's a little less than 16 quarts, but I'm not a 100% on that.

Also, for anyone doing a fuel filter replacement on their triton/ sportero soon, could you please do a step by step (with pictures) breakdown and post it here? thanks

[AllTrac]

tourniquet,
1) the EGR soot build up probably looks powdery in the pics but its more sludgy, paste like, I still have some of it in my nail cuticle. The carb cleaner just couldnt cut through the thick build up, so i hit it with some gas and an old tooth brush and it worked like a charm.
Please bear in mind, i cleaned the EGR VALVE, NOT THE EGR MOTOR. When u remove the eniter egr assembly, 2 bolts holds it on from the egr pipe to the egr valve (exhaust manifold -> egr cooler-> egr pipe -> egr valve-> intake mani)) then 4 bolts hold the egr valve to the intake manifold. All bolts easy to access, may need to spray some WD40 on the 2 bols that hold the egr pipe to the egr valve.
When u have this removed it comes of in one assembly, egr motor bolted to the egr valve. 4 philip screws hold the motor to the valve and its easy to remove. Onve removed I put the motor aside, it doesnt need cleaning. Now the valve is all mechanics, no electrical, I went to town on it, cleaning it out, soaking it in gas and scrubbing it out with a tooth brush, you can push the valve with your thumb and clean it out nicely.

I really wish I had the time to remove the intake manifold and give that a good clean out also but ill need to be well prepared for that which is having about 2 days off and without a vehicle (could get it done in a day but need a safety net) plus have the gaskets with me OR I can just buy a replacement manifold which is friggin expensive.

2) The only other amsoil product i use other than their engine oil is the diesel concentrate, i dont use the cetane booster cause i dont really see the need to, dont have nothing against it. I change my fuel filter every 1-2 months because its cheap, $40 sakura filter, since its a monthly or bimonthly thing, everytime i change it i fill the filter with the diesel concentrate, thats the only time i really use the diesel concentrate, so i basically use it monthly. I dont add it to my fill ups, i just fill up normal and wait till its time to do the monthly filter change. Its just something i did with all my past diesel vehicles (surf, pajero, frontier 4x4 and 4x2, hilux, prado) ive never had smoking issues with any of them (monthly fuel filter change filled with diesel concentrate) probably thats why or probably doesnt affect sheit, either way never had negative effects, so im sticking with that.
changing the fuel filter is easy, my next schedule is first week in january, ill take some pics

3) took 14qts, million thanks to venum on his write up on flushing out the powersteering lines, followed it and did the flush today, powersteering old fluid was black, powersteering feels so much lighter now, btw, getting that clip off the bottom of the power steering reservoir was a beeeeyatch!

[venum]

well done AllTrac

did that on my Sportero already

believe me, you had a lot of time left before you had to do it

mine was caked so badly, the actual passage way was about a lil more than the diameter of a pencil

popped a egr hose and engine management light came on for me to realize how bad it was

the 4M41 DiD is very tolerant with a clogged egr

you will see better performance now, esp on the highway

i regret not taking pics of mine

to clean teh manifold, you are right, it will take a lot of time and dedication to get teh upper and lower intake manifold off

the 4M41 DiD is much easier to service egr than the 4D56DiD, because of the position of teh egr motor and components

3) took 14qts, million thanks to venum on his write up on flushing out the powersteering lines, followed it and did the flush today, powersteering old fluid was black, powersteering feels so much lighter now, btw, getting that clip off the bottom of the power steering reservoir was a beeeeyatch!

should have asked me buddy, i would have warned you. me and my buddy that did it got soem nice scratches on our arms and knuckles doing that

2. I read in the oil thread that you're using Amsoil engine oil, however, are you using their cetane and diesel concentrate additives as well? I mean it's clear you know what you're doing maintenance wise, but that looks pretty damn dirty
3. I'm gonna do the transmission flush for my next service, so I'll give someone else a chance and not be greedy (...yet ) For future reference though, how many quarts did you use? I think it's a little less than 16 quarts, but I'm not a 100% on that.

Amsoil for the anti-soot additives cuz it specially formulated for egr applications, but no it only helps a little and cannot totally prevent egr buildup

15 qts of tranny fluid for the tranny fluid change

[AllTrac]

venum, a couple quick questions, did you remove the top and bottom intake manifold? did you reuse the gasket or had to get new ones? also does the diesel injectors need to come off to get both manifolds off?

[AllTrac]

3) took 14qts, million thanks to venum on his write up on flushing out the powersteering lines, followed it and did the flush today, powersteering old fluid was black, powersteering feels so much lighter now, btw, getting that clip off the bottom of the power steering reservoir was a beeeeyatch!

should have asked me buddy, i would have warned you. me and my buddy that did it got soem nice scratches on our arms and knuckles doing that

boy i replaced that clip with a screw type yes, never me and that again