L200 owners........what are your experiences???

[madman2961]

my engine never overheated... and ent if water enters the chamber the engine goh like FCUK up!?

http://www.greaseolineplus.com/page2.html

[speedaholic]

i still doh trust that... but anyways...my engine still needs help..... not gettin the amount of power i shud and it black smokin rellll plenty now... i cant cross 120 on highway! :\! idk what to do now na....

[madman2961]

you might have to service the fuel pump and check the timing.

[speedaholic]

where can i get this done and aprox how much will it cost??

[venum]

plenty places

Sookhai's most expensive

when i was at specialist motors some time ago they were telling me about a place in barataria

call them and find out

[speedaholic]

you mean special auto.. the mitsu place in aranguez?

[MadCrix]

electro diesel cipero street

[venum]

yeah speedy, them self

crix, he from north, so i ent bother to tell him bout any places in south

[speedaholic]

yea me eh able to go south na! lol! so i pass i pass by sookhais yest...! dem want $5000.00!!!!! to recalibrate fuel pump and clean injectors an change the tips.. an set back everything! WTF!!! do i really need all that to be done???! sigh....

[l200]

my engine never overheated... and ent if water enters the chamber the engine goh like FCUK up!? so i rell doubt is water... my guess its a fuel contamination problem.. the night it happened my fuel tank was like a gud way below quarter... this mornin i made it to the gas station and put in a $40... and well.. as i was pullin out of the station.. (NP) but a gud one.. i noticed i slight power increase... but white smokin stoped.. and it started Black smokin now at very low RPMs.. just got back home from a drive... d van cya reachh 100 dred.. and rell black smoke.. jes chcked radiator and oil level again.. all is gud... must be a injector or fuel contamination problemm.. i gone check ryanm this evening and well figure it out.. he lives in my area.. think glow plugs cud have anything to do with that?

Hi speed, a friend of mines had the same experience just like yours, ..... he has a turbo engine thou, he thought it was fuel, de pump, or injectors, but it was non of that it was his ERG valve = Exhaust Gas Recirculation Valve.

The EGR valve controls formation of noxious emissions.The EGR valve, or Exhaust Gas Recirculation valve, is a vacuum controlled valve which allows a specific amount of your exhaust back into the intake manifold. This exhaust mixes with the intake air and actually cools the combustion process. Cooler is always better inside your engine. The exhaust your EGR valve recirculates also prevents the formation of Nitrogen related gases. These are referred to as NOX emissions, and are a common cause for failing emissions testing. Unfortunately, your EGR valve can get stuck, causing NOX gases to build up. You'll know if your EGR valve is stuck or malfunctioning because your car will experience symptoms like rough idle and bucking on accelertaion.

Rough idle and poor acceleration can be caused by a faulty EGR valve, and in his case alot of white smoke and no power, he couldn't even go up a slight incline.

I try to take a pic this evening to show what it looks like, on his engine

He had another 4d56 t on the ground, so he changed the valve and he running now

[venum]

i don't think that n/a engines have EGR components

I may be wrong though

[madman2961]

Venum, you are correct

there is no EGR on the N/A 4d56

Below is a pic that a tuner put of his engine bay the is a K34

[l200]

speedaholic, I didn't know what type of engine you had, jus thought the info would be helpful, if not to you probably to someone else on the forum ....

<<<<<<<Good luck with sorting out the problem wit the engine>>>>>

[speedaholic]

yea i have the N/A 4D56. engine has regained some power... but still black smokin plenty on acceleration.. and still dont have the kinda power i used to... dunno what to do now na...

[ryanm]

see the kerosene now startin to work. Very likely there are deposits on the injectors which cause them to dribble instead of spray and disperse the diesel into a fine mist. This leads to incomplete combustion because the diesel spray has not atomized, hence the black smoke.

Hope it's as simple as that and not the pump.

btw did you ever adjust the starting pressure on the pump?

[speedaholic]

i hope so to... shud i put another $20 kerosene? and no.. i have never adjusted the starting pressure on the pump.. shud i? how is it done?

[ryanm]

how much has it improved since?

[speedaholic]

i gettin gud acceleration and stuff.. but still not as before... and the blackin is gettin kinda annoying for me now... it black smokin at the higher RPM's or on hard acceleration! but it WAY more than normal.. i cud prob check you this evening after i cellect meh DB tshirt from gerry in grand bazar.. that wud be around 6 or so

[cutthroatInt]

L200.... can u text me ur fone number.... (761-2627) i wanna find out some info bout ur mechanics..
meh engine eh sounding too rite rite now....

i dont have regular internet these days... so i;ll look out for ur text..

thanks.

[l200]

Hey tuners, having a problem,,,,, my van hard starting when the engine is hot. When cold it starts in a one, but of lately, when warm, i have to tumble for abt 4-6 seconds before it starts........

>>>>>>> Any suggestions????

[speedaholic]

check glow plug tempreture sensor

[ryanm]

is it a healthy tumble as the one in the morning?

Try cleaning the contacts on the bttery and the starter cable both at the battery terminal and the starter.
Give it a good steelbrush or sandpaper cleaning until it shiny and then put it bach together.

While you at it clean the ground cable on the body and engine of the van too

[l200]

Ok, new temp. sensor, new glow plugs, clean all battery poles, and connectors on engine harness, and still getting the problem.

My starter was serviced 4months ago, glow plugs relay changed abt 6months ago..........

Battery is 13 months old, carried it to the dealer to check it an it passed all their test, also started another van with it and it worked fine.

Any more suggestions???

[ryanm]

stumped!!!

[speedaholic]

mee tooo!!

[trinibajan34]

fellas i have been toying with the idea of buying a k34 4x4 fully loaded model, i want to know would it be a good investment because i see a lot of them on the road and they still look damn good, soo what do you guys think ?

[madman2961]

Hey tuners, having a problem,,,,, my van hard starting when the engine is hot. When cold it starts in a one, but of lately, when warm, i have to tumble for abt 4-6 seconds before it starts........

>>>>>>> Any suggestions????

2 things coming to mind:-
1) is your oil in need of changing?
2) maybe your compression is not that great.

[l200]

The oil has abt 1000 km again, compression, hmmmmm possible, but i don't think likely, Ah want to believe the (timer)box that controls the relay that heats the plugs is malfunctioning.

I was reading that when the engine is hot , it is supposed to heat the plugs for ab 6-8sec, and when cold for abt 14-16 sec. (not sure abt the figures, but was something like that) So I've been checking mines and it isn't coming on when hot, now i'm not too sure if its the problem, but hopefully this week i'll be swapping out the box, will keep you guys posted!!!....

>>>>> trinibajan34<<<<<, the 4x4 k34 fully loaded is great, and once properly maintained, its reliable, economical and is more durable than the k74 or so I have been told by a couple of mechanics, if you can get a good one, I'll say go for it.

keep in mind - mileage ( the lower the better)
- maintainance (frequent oil change, timing belt etc)

and carry a person wit you who is knowledgeable abt the diesel.

[trinibajan34]

thanks for the advice l200 ,but those vans are over ten years old the mileage would be high ,what would be a suitable mileage to look at or look for if i am going to purchase one

[ryanm]

[quote="l200"]The oil has abt 1000 km again, compression, hmmmmm possible, but i don't think likely, Ah want to believe the (timer)box that controls the relay that heats the plugs is malfunctioning.

I was reading that when the engine is hot , it is supposed to heat the plugs for ab 6-8sec, and when cold for abt 14-16 sec. (not sure abt the figures, but was something like that) So I've been checking mines and it isn't coming on when hot, now i'm not too sure if its the problem, but hopefully this week i'll be swapping out the box, will keep you guys posted!!!....

L200 - I checked heater relay on both the k34 and 74 and the glow plugs aren't energized when the engine is hot. Jus bonks starter and go. I don't think thats your problem .