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Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby aaron17 » December 27th, 2023, 6:28 pm

Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

https://guardian.co.tt/news/health-minister-wary-of-tts-low-fertility-rate-6.2.1884993.d8de819fa3

Wham to he dred :agrue:

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby The_Honourable » December 27th, 2023, 6:30 pm

Except in hot spots apparently :?

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Postby paid_influencer » December 27th, 2023, 6:49 pm

he know what he do

he know what all them pnm do

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby paid_influencer » December 27th, 2023, 6:55 pm

yea this country going good lewwe make a battalion who dead dead god goh provide mami goh be we childcare while both parents working and yes everything going up and contract is 1 year property tax current bill baby grant medical care children killing each other in school wha we goh do god goh provide doc say i could dead anytime too

i say we appreciate the venes that want to take up the burden because me eh able
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Postby VII » December 27th, 2023, 7:00 pm

Thank God !

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Postby nervewrecker » December 27th, 2023, 7:18 pm

paid_influencer wrote:yea this country going good lewwe make a battalion who dead dead god goh provide mami goh be we childcare while both parents working and yes everything going up and contract is 1 year property tax current bill baby grant medical care children killing each other in school wha we goh do god goh provide doc say i could dead anytime too

i say we appreciate the venes that want to take up the burden because me eh able
Them vene come here and breeding like rat. One after the next they making.

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby AlphaMan » December 27th, 2023, 7:31 pm

Is he aware of the cost to bring kids up these days?

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Postby Kickstart » December 27th, 2023, 8:11 pm

AlphaMan wrote:Is he aware of the cost to bring kids up these days?
Not so much the cost of kid, but seeing about ur self .

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Postby alfa » December 27th, 2023, 8:56 pm

This isn't necessarily a bad thing. We could have one of them inverted population pyramids like those fancy smanchy European countries and use cheap immigrant labor to support the NIS system. The venes already not going anywhere anytime soon

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby DMan7 » December 27th, 2023, 9:11 pm

People approaching the low fertility rate from a health perspective which is low sperm count and women waiting later in life to have children who will likely have 0 eggs by then.

I'm approaching this issue by saying it's a societal issue that men and women aren't getting together the way their parents and grand parents generation used to. I think society the world over is breeding introverted people whose traits doesn't lend itself to socializing with people far less for having a family and kids.

Too much entertainment options in the modern world that people can enjoy solo without the need for other people present for example the internet and easy accessibility to it as well. I always said that the pandemic has turned introverted people into super introverted and those who were on the borderline before becoming fully introverted.

Japan is notorious for this as they have an extremely low birth rate as well. Nothing can be done about this and it's only going to get worse is my prediction.

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Postby dogg » December 27th, 2023, 9:58 pm

This is a worldwide phenomena. Low fertility rate is an issue throughout the world, more so in "developed" territories. Some coountries have even resorted to offering financial incentives to couples to have more children. the simple fact is that raising kids is an expensive endeavour today. Strangely, Only in poverty stricken countries and communities do we high fertility rates

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby paid_influencer » December 27th, 2023, 10:02 pm

dman7, do you think the root cause is capitalism. what do you think about microplastics entering the human food chain. what does it do to your balls

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby DMan7 » December 27th, 2023, 10:08 pm

Like I said Paid, the problem is a societal decaying issue more so than any other issue like health issue related or economic.

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Postby 88sins » December 28th, 2023, 7:02 am

Heavy and unjust taxation, dilapidated infrastructure, uncontrolled crime, astronomically unaffordable prices for housing, constantly increasing cost of basic food items, a long outdated judicial system, damn near nonexistent healthcare system, corrupt government offices and officials, etc, and so on and so forth.
Any of these things sound like something a sane person would want to bring a child into this world to deal with in this day and age?

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Postby maj. tom » December 28th, 2023, 8:23 am

But wasn't all that part of the Vision 2020 manifesto?

The ruling class are shored up and protected against the reality of what's going on in this country. Every time they speak or make policy you realize they don't care and are disconnected from the grounded reality that the rest of us are facing. From the greedflation to traffic to crime to basic water supply to corruptly appropriated taxation to the condition of the roads. They don't experience it and are unaffected. The gangs have become and are growing into a powerful mafia akin to the Medellin gang relationship to the Colombian government in the 1980s and are running the country behind every institution. Don't you think there was a reason that Gary was removed and Hinds and Erla were placed there stubbornly without moving no matter the level of guaranteed failure? A little lip service now and then with fake apology and red flag waving and everything ok again. A lil ranting bout Kamla by a raging bull with all the morals and values befitting a leader. Everything good when supporters get somebody else to blame.

Do the younger educated middle class to want to raise a family in this?

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby Dohplaydat » December 28th, 2023, 8:45 am

People aren't having kids because kids are a lot of work. Trust me, it's not financial. You're just telling yourself that, it's that life has gotten too easy and kids are a huge inconvenience

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby Dizzy28 » December 28th, 2023, 9:00 am

Blame the DINK lifestyle.
People can afford kids. It's just requires a little sacrifice.

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby Rovin » December 28th, 2023, 10:43 am

d country & world already over populated so no need to be making more than 2 kids in these modern times

ppl supposed to be more educated in d last few decades in that doh go making 10+ chirren like how our elders used to - birth control is a must ...

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby fokhan_96 » December 28th, 2023, 10:47 am

88sins wrote:Heavy and unjust taxation, dilapidated infrastructure, uncontrolled crime, astronomically unaffordable prices for housing, constantly increasing cost of basic food items, a long outdated judicial system, damn near nonexistent healthcare system, corrupt government offices and officials, etc, and so on and so forth.
Any of these things sound like something a sane person would want to bring a child into this world to deal with in this day and age?
This. Why would you bring a human into this world just for them to ketch dey arse ?

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby Dizzy28 » December 28th, 2023, 10:51 am

Rovin wrote:d country & world already over populated so no need to be making more than 2 kids in these modern times

ppl supposed to be more educated in d last few decades in that doh go making 10+ chirren like how our elders used to - birth control is a must ...


By who's metric is Trinidad overpopulated?

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby FrankChag » December 28th, 2023, 10:52 am

According the Churchill and friends (2022, cit. below), if we're anything like Australia, Fertility (and probably Fertility Intentions), should be booming here.

Interesting also that House_prices and School_Quality mediate the effect.
And, they found the strongest effect with folks who own their own homes.

Someone should replicate this in our context.



Local crime and fertility.


Abstract


We present the first estimates of the impact of local area crime on fertility. We first develop a simple theoretical model to examine the relationship between crime and fertility. We explore labor income, as a proxy for labor market conditions, house prices and school quality as potential channels. The model predicts that individuals change their demand for children through the income and substitution effects in response to changes in crime rates. We test the theoretical predictions of the model using longitudinal data from the Household, Income and Labour Dynamics in Australia (HILDA) survey that matches each household to crime statistics, school quality and house prices at the Local Government Area (LGA) level. We find that a one standard deviation increase in the LGA crime rate causes a 7.8 per cent increase in fertility and that house prices and school quality are channels through which crime influences fertility. We find that the mediating effect of school quality is stronger than that of house prices, and that the interaction between school quality and house prices reinforces the role of house prices as a mediator. Further, the positive effect of crime on fertility rates is stronger for homeowners compared to non-homeowners and weaker for those homeowners with a mortgage, relative to those who own their home outright.

Churchill, Sefa Awaworyi, Russell Smyth, Trong-Anh Trinh, and Siew Ling Yew. "Local crime and fertility." Journal of Economic Behavior & Organization 200 (2022): 312-331.

https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jebo.2022.06.019

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Postby AlphaMan » December 28th, 2023, 12:00 pm

fokhan_96 wrote:
88sins wrote:Heavy and unjust taxation, dilapidated infrastructure, uncontrolled crime, astronomically unaffordable prices for housing, constantly increasing cost of basic food items, a long outdated judicial system, damn near nonexistent healthcare system, corrupt government offices and officials, etc, and so on and so forth.
Any of these things sound like something a sane person would want to bring a child into this world to deal with in this day and age?
This. Why would you bring a human into this world just for them to ketch dey arse ?

Exactly. Where's the fun in watching your off spring suffer.

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby aaron17 » December 28th, 2023, 1:34 pm

It jus overpopulated in the bad places.

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby Dohplaydat » December 28th, 2023, 2:37 pm

aaron17 wrote:It jus overpopulated in the bad places.


It is, but not where it counts. This issue affects all of us and the future of any kids we do have.

Look at Japan and Korea, you have a population demographic of a hugely aging population.

This leads to a shrinking workforce, which in turn strains the economy and reduces the nation's ability to support its ageing population. Additionally, it may lead to a decline in innovation and a reduced consumer base, further hampering economic growth and societal dynamism.

Basically, by not having 2.1 kids we are negatively affecting everyone's future.

AI and robotics could be the answer but only really in first world countries.

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Postby Kickstart » December 28th, 2023, 3:42 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
aaron17 wrote:It jus overpopulated in the bad places.


It is, but not where it counts. This issue affects all of us and the future of any kids we do have.

Look at Japan and Korea, you have a population demographic of a hugely aging population.

This leads to a shrinking workforce, which in turn strains the economy and reduces the nation's ability to support its ageing population. Additionally, it may lead to a decline in innovation and a reduced consumer base, further hampering economic growth and societal dynamism.

Basically, by not having 2.1 kids we are negatively affecting everyone's future.

AI and robotics could be the answer but only really in first world countries.
shrinking workforce?

That's bull, we have people with certs that still can't get a job. Some have degrees.

Those who Lucky migrate.

This workforce bull is from government as they only looking to plug the NIS and Tax hole that was created by them.

Don't have kids , it's not worth it in Trinidad. Your kids will just be another cash cow and slave

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby Mmoney607 » December 28th, 2023, 3:43 pm

Dohplaydat wrote:
aaron17 wrote:It jus overpopulated in the bad places.


It is, but not where it counts. This issue affects all of us and the future of any kids we do have.

Look at Japan and Korea, you have a population demographic of a hugely aging population.

This leads to a shrinking workforce, which in turn strains the economy and reduces the nation's ability to support its ageing population. Additionally, it may lead to a decline in innovation and a reduced consumer base, further hampering economic growth and societal dynamism.

Basically, by not having 2.1 kids we are negatively affecting everyone's future.

AI and robotics could be the answer but only really in first world countries.

It's a ponzi scheme, you have to bring in more people or it will crash

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby PariaMan » December 28th, 2023, 3:45 pm

If you could afford for your child to have a good start, then go for it

If your child is gonna suffer, then just forget it

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby Kickstart » December 28th, 2023, 3:46 pm

PariaMan wrote:If you could afford for your child to have a good start, then go for it

If your child is gonna suffer, then just forget it
It's not worth having kids in Trinidad

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Re: Health Minister wary of T&T’s low fertility rate

Postby aaron17 » December 28th, 2023, 3:49 pm

End of times in TNT...it aint worth it...investors bussin out.

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