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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby RedVEVO » August 5th, 2022, 4:08 pm

pete wrote:Yeah it's just something most people don't know. For the states that only allow abortions up to 6 weeks pregnant, that's actually 6 weeks from the start of the last period even though ovulation/fertilization takes place around 2 weeks after that. Also, a lot of women have irregular menstrual cycles so if they miss it by a week they don't take it on. Another week goes by and they're at that 6 week limit even though they would've only had intercourse 4 weeks before.


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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby adnj » January 6th, 2023, 4:56 am

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The 3-2 decision comes nearly two years after Republican Gov. Henry McMaster signed the restriction into law, banning abortions after cardiac activity is detected. The ban, which included exceptions for pregnancies by rape or incest or pregnancies that endanger the patient’s life, drew lawsuits almost immediately.

Justice Kaye Hearn, writing for the majority, said the state “unquestionably” has the authority to limit the right of privacy that protects from state interference with the decision to get an abortion. But she added any limitation must afford sufficient time to determine one is pregnant and take “reasonable steps” if she chooses to terminate that pregnancy.

“Six weeks is, quite simply, not a reasonable period of time for these two things to occur,” Hearn added.

Currently, South Carolina bars most abortions at about 20 weeks beyond fertilization, or the gestational age of 22 weeks.

On Twitter, White House spokesperson Karine Jean-Pierre applauded the clampdown “on the state’s extreme and dangerous abortion ban.”

https://apnews.com/article/abortion-pol ... f183be203c

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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby maj. tom » January 11th, 2023, 6:34 pm

Women can be prosecuted for taking abortion pills, says Alabama attorney general

https://www.al.com/news/2023/01/women-can-be-prosecuted-for-taking-abortion-pills-says-alabama-attorney-general.html

One week after the federal government made it easier to get abortion pills, Alabama Attorney General Steve Marshall said Tuesday that women in Alabama who use those pills to end pregnancies could be prosecuted.

That’s despite wording in Alabama’s new Human Life Protection Act that criminalizes abortion providers and prevents its use against the people receiving abortions. Instead, the attorney general’s office said Alabama could rely on an older law, one initially designed to protect children from meth lab fumes.

In 2019, Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey signed the Human Life Protection Act, which banned abortion except in cases where the mother’s health is in danger. That law went into effect when the U.S. Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade last summer.

The law specifically states that women receiving abortions cannot be held criminally liable. However, Marshall said women using pills to induce abortions could be prosecuted under the chemical endangerment law.

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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby teems1 » January 12th, 2023, 12:14 pm

How they gonna prove it?

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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby Dizzy28 » January 12th, 2023, 12:48 pm

The House on Wednesday passed a bill that would require that all infants born after attempted abortions get medical care, the first abortion-related legislation from the House GOP majority after the Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade over the summer.

The measure, titled the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, passed in a mainly 220-210-1 vote. Rep. Henry Cuellar (Texas) was the only Democrat to vote for the measure. Rep. Vicente Gonzalez (D-Texas) voted “present.”

The bill, which House Republicans vowed to bring up even before they clinched the majority, would mandate that an infant born alive after an attempted abortion receives the same degree of care that any other child born prematurely would receive. The measure also requires that the infant is taken to a hospital. And it threatens providers who don’t comply with a fine or up to five years in prison
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3 ... abortions/

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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby adnj » January 12th, 2023, 1:05 pm

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The House on Wednesday passed a bill that would require that all infants born after attempted abortions get medical care, the first abortion-related legislation from the House GOP majority after the Supreme Court struck down Roe v. Wade over the summer.

The measure, titled the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, passed in a mainly 220-210-1 vote. Rep. Henry Cuellar (Texas) was the only Democrat to vote for the measure. Rep. Vicente Gonzalez (D-Texas) voted “present.”

The bill, which House Republicans vowed to bring up even before they clinched the majority, would mandate that an infant born alive after an attempted abortion receives the same degree of care that any other child born prematurely would receive. The measure also requires that the infant is taken to a hospital. And it threatens providers who don’t comply with a fine or up to five years in prison
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/3 ... abortions/
That's a rewrite of existing law passed 20 years ago.
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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby redmanjp » January 12th, 2023, 1:17 pm

once u born u not a human being with rights? can't imagine anyone would disagree.

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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby Jared Mohammed » January 13th, 2023, 10:13 am

Having abortion rights is essential for the protection of women’s rights, autonomy, and bodily autonomy. Abortion bans are an attempt to control women’s bodies and strip them of their dignity as independent decisionmakers. The reality is that women’s lives are more likely to be disrupted and devalued without access to safe abortions.

Banning abortions also demonstrates a lack of faith in an individual’s capacity to decide on medical issues. This act is oppressive and paternalistic; it deprives individuals from making decisions about their own health - which is the hallmark of a free society.

At its core, banning abortions denies a woman’s right to bodily autonomy and self-determination. A woman should be able to make her own decisions regarding her reproductive health with support, guidance, and resources available if needed - particularly in cases where there may be serious risks or complications with regard to the pregnancy or the mother's physical or mental health. Legally banning abortion means many pregnant persons are left with limited options that may ultimately have dire consequences - including self-induced abortion due to lack of access - which can endanger a person's safety if performed unsafely or under unprofessional supervision.

In addition, abortion bans put up additional barriers in obtaining sexual healthcare services designed specifically for women (e.g., contraception). Unfortunately, this means that there could potentially be an increase in unwanted pregnancies and even greater disparities between those who can afford early detection services compared to those who cannot because they don't know feasible options exist for them in other countries due to travel limitations caused by legal restrictions at home. All people deserve access to comprehensive sexual health care services – but stripping away these crucial healthcare rights impacts marginalized communities more than anyone else because it takes away their ability make informed decisions about their bodies and their futures. Limiting access only further perpetuates inequality among societal groups, which is a clear demonstration of why banning abortions inherently sexist —women suffer disproportionately from lack of access without appropriate checks and balances from the government protecting citizens' basic rights.

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Postby adnj » January 13th, 2023, 10:53 am

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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby ruffneck_12 » January 13th, 2023, 3:05 pm

I have a very good solution to all this, it's a win-win in either direction.

Be pro-abortion BUT men can now opt out of child support. Her body her choice, his wallet his choice.

Be pro-life BUT men can't opt out of child support , the child can now have funding from two sources to have a better chance at life.

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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby adnj » January 13th, 2023, 3:11 pm

ruffneck_12 wrote:I have a very good solution to all this, it's a win-win in either direction.

Be pro-abortion BUT men can now opt out of child support. Her body her choice, his wallet his choice.

Be pro-life BUT men can't opt out of child support , the child can now have funding from two sources to have a better chance at life.
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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

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Kollar-Kotelly noted that there is some legal scholarship suggesting that the 13th Amendment — which was ratified at the end of the Civil War and sought to ban slavery and “involuntary servitude” — provides just such a right. She is asking the parties in the criminal case, which involves charges of blocking access to abortion clinics, to present arguments by mid-March.

In particular, the judge is asking them to address ”whether the scope of Dobbs is in fact confined to the Fourteenth Amendment” and “whether, if so, any other provision of the Constitution could confer a right to abortion as an original matter … such that Dobbs may or may not be the final pronouncement on the issue, leaving an open question.”

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“The ‘issue’ before the Court in Dobbs was not whether any provision of the Constitution provided a right to abortion. Rather, the question before the Court in Dobbs was whether the Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution provided such a right,” she wrote. “That is why neither the majority nor the dissent in Dobbs analyzed anything but the Fourteenth Amendment. In fact, on the Court’s initial review, not a single amicus brief mentioned anything but the Fourteenth Amendment and the unratified Equal Rights Amendment.“

Beyond the 13th Amendment argument that Kollar-Kotelly floated, several Jewish organizations have filed lawsuits arguing that religious freedom protections in the First Amendment or state constitutions may extend to abortion rights.

A Massachusetts-based Satanic temple has also filed lawsuits contending that abortion restrictions in other states violate the group’s religious freedom rights.

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/02/0 ... s-00081391

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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby maj. tom » February 23rd, 2024, 8:05 am

Alabama’s Supreme Court has ruled that frozen embryos are people, the first time a court has ever given rights and protections so early after conception.

The ruling is limited to Alabama, but it has far-reaching potential and seems poised to open a new front in the fight over reproductive rights in the country.

Alabama has one of the strictest abortion laws in the nation, and advocates and legal experts worry it could show a path forward for the “personhood” movement in other conservative states.

The White House on Tuesday condemned the decision as “exactly the type of chaos that we expected when the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade and paved the way for politicians to dictate some of the most personal decisions families can make.”
https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4481856-how-alabamas-frozen-embryo-decision-is-shaking-the-nation-what-you-need-to-know/


MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) — Alabama’s largest hospital paused in vitro fertilization treatments Wednesday as providers and patients across the state scrambled to assess the impact of a court ruling that said frozen embryos are the legal equivalent of children.

The University of Alabama at Birmingham health system said in a statement that it must evaluate whether its patients or doctors could face criminal charges or punitive damages for undergoing IVF treatments. “We are saddened that this will impact our patients’ attempt to have a baby through IVF,” the statement from spokeswoman Savannah Koplon read.

Doctors and patients were gripped by a mixture of shock, anxiety and fear as they weighed how to proceed in the wake of the ruling by the all-Republican Alabama Supreme Court that put in question the future of IVF.

“Disbelief, denial, all the stages of grief. ... I was stunned,” said Dr. Michael C. Allemand, a reproductive endocrinologist at Alabama Fertility, which provides IVF services.
https://apnews.com/article/alabama-frozen-embryos-pause-4cf5d3139e1a6cbc62bc5ad9946cc1b8


Hillary Clinton is warning about the legality of birth control in the wake of a decision by the Alabama Supreme Court that found frozen embryos created through fertility treatments are children under state law.

“They came for abortion first. Now it’s [in vitro fertilization], and next it’ll be birth control,” the 2016 Democratic presidential nominee and secretary of State said in a post on X, the platform formerly known as Twitter.

“The extreme right won’t stop trying to exert government control over our most sacred personal decisions until we codify reproductive freedom as a human right,” Clinton added.

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4483403-hillary-clinton-warns-birth-control-is-next-after-alabama-ivf-ruling/

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Re: Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade; states can ban abortion in the US

Postby dogg » February 23rd, 2024, 8:24 am

American problems.

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