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MG Man wrote:Musical Doc wrote:pugboy wrote:ppl buying a used car whose battery is on the lifespan downslope
Correct, but also it is the dealers to blame who bring vehicles with a rolled back mileage. In 2020 my friend bought a 2016 aqua with mileage of 20xxx. When I paid for the report from Japan, the actual mileage was 140xxx. So he had to do an immediate total service on the car. The battery test on the hybrid battery showed at 69% as well.
It is also recommended to do an annual battery recondition which people charging minimum $1000 to do which is supposed to extend the lifespan of your battery.
sad that ppl still falling for this sheit
two things that make trinis horny: 'high' series and low roro miles
Too bad there's no recourse for fraud
pugboy wrote:every single foreign used car coming in with 22-26k on the clock
Phone Surgeon wrote:Lol one of my padnas still paying for his dnd hybrid fielder and the hybrid battery completely gone tru.
8k to repair
The battery pack average life is about 17 years/200,000 miles to failure or capacity loss based customer-use test data. The data is across all available manufacturers.agent007 wrote:The Aqua and Vezel groups are plagued with issues. You buy a roro hybrid that is already 3-4 years old and keep it for the loan period of 5 years. By the time the vehicle is paid off for, it will be 9 years old with a battery pack or hybrid system with a theoretical marketing bs shelf life between 8-10 years. It will be less in our climate due to the dust, bad roads and heat.
To save the planet? I had 2 hybrids….a May 2013 Aqua purchased in Jan 2018 and a Feb 2017 Xtrail purchased brand new in Aug 2017. The Aqua was stress. The Xtrail was sold after 2 years long before it start to give me stress. From the looks of things, I dodged a bullet. The Aqua was advertised at 22k kms. When we went to collect the car, it was doing 88k kms and the dealer admitted to me that they did not get to roll back the mileage yet. I told them no worries, I prefer to know the legit mileage on the vehicle and with that they gave us a further cash discount as their way in saying sorry for the mishap.
You see buyers remorse and pride? Them thing real. It have owners who fell for the rhetoric but their vehicles stressing them out big time.
Soon, we will downsize all of our vehicles cause it have more important things to study than some depreciating asset. If you buy a 2018 March K13 1.2, you will be buying a good car all in the name of fuel economy. Those March can rival hybrid like economy too without the headache. Massy versions went up to PDW and you get 6 airbags with those and a full instrument cluster with a tachometer. They also have 1 reverse light cause the other is a rear fog and front power windows only. Those units came from India. The roro versions are 2 airbags with a speedometer only, they have power windows on all 4 doors and 2 reverse lights. These roro units are made in Japan. I think the locals have a spare tyre and the roro has a fix a flat kit. Open to correction.
Don’t let me start with the Ioniq and Niro crew. Non hybrid Hyundais and Kia’s are absolute hell on earth, imagine you buy a used one. As those cars age, is best you carry it by the scrap iron fella on the Beetham there for him to cut up and sell.
adnj wrote:The battery pack average life is about 17 years/200,000 miles to failure or capacity loss based customer-use test data. The data is across all available manufacturers.agent007 wrote:The Aqua and Vezel groups are plagued with issues. You buy a roro hybrid that is already 3-4 years old and keep it for the loan period of 5 years. By the time the vehicle is paid off for, it will be 9 years old with a battery pack or hybrid system with a theoretical marketing bs shelf life between 8-10 years. It will be less in our climate due to the dust, bad roads and heat.
To save the planet? I had 2 hybrids….a May 2013 Aqua purchased in Jan 2018 and a Feb 2017 Xtrail purchased brand new in Aug 2017. The Aqua was stress. The Xtrail was sold after 2 years long before it start to give me stress. From the looks of things, I dodged a bullet. The Aqua was advertised at 22k kms. When we went to collect the car, it was doing 88k kms and the dealer admitted to me that they did not get to roll back the mileage yet. I told them no worries, I prefer to know the legit mileage on the vehicle and with that they gave us a further cash discount as their way in saying sorry for the mishap.
You see buyers remorse and pride? Them thing real. It have owners who fell for the rhetoric but their vehicles stressing them out big time.
Soon, we will downsize all of our vehicles cause it have more important things to study than some depreciating asset. If you buy a 2018 March K13 1.2, you will be buying a good car all in the name of fuel economy. Those March can rival hybrid like economy too without the headache. Massy versions went up to PDW and you get 6 airbags with those and a full instrument cluster with a tachometer. They also have 1 reverse light cause the other is a rear fog and front power windows only. Those units came from India. The roro versions are 2 airbags with a speedometer only, they have power windows on all 4 doors and 2 reverse lights. These roro units are made in Japan. I think the locals have a spare tyre and the roro has a fix a flat kit. Open to correction.
Don’t let me start with the Ioniq and Niro crew. Non hybrid Hyundais and Kia’s are absolute hell on earth, imagine you buy a used one. As those cars age, is best you carry it by the scrap iron fella on the Beetham there for him to cut up and sell.
agent007 wrote:Sorry to disappoint you bro but you see that marketing material you paste there...that is NOT the case in the real world, especially in T&T. Post that in some of them hybrid groups nah and they go run yuh.
MG Man wrote:when I win the lotto, I gonna buy a GR Yaris and swap everything over to an Aqua
maj. tom wrote:It may actually be a servicing issue, where the typical local owners of an Aqua are the type coming across from the Nissan Tiida and Almera "never read the manual and drive it till it breaks then blame somebody else." Hybrids need regular fan servicing to keep the battery cool. The most likely point of battery failure or poor performance is excessive heat as well as the control PCB failing due to excessive heat rather than just the battery. Hybrid batteries are designed for 15-20 years lifespan. If they are abused and not serviced, what would happen?
Typical dealership Prius C bought in USA have not been reporting this problem, likely because they have a service schedule that's adhered to. And it's the same battery pack from Japan.
Are we getting similar reports from the Honda brand? The Hyundai Ioniq?
maj. tom wrote:It may actually be a servicing issue, where the typical local owners of an Aqua are the type coming across from the Nissan Tiida and Almera "never read the manual and drive it till it breaks then blame somebody else." Hybrids need regular fan servicing to keep the battery cool. The most likely point of battery failure or poor performance is excessive heat as well as the control PCB failing due to excessive heat rather than just the battery. Hybrid batteries are designed for 15-20 years lifespan. If they are abused and not serviced, what would happen?
Typical dealership Prius C bought in USA have not been reporting this problem, likely because they have a service schedule that's adhered to. And it's the same battery pack from Japan.
Are we getting similar reports from the Honda brand? The Hyundai Ioniq?
adnj wrote:agent007 wrote:Sorry to disappoint you bro but you see that marketing material you paste there...that is NOT the case in the real world, especially in T&T. Post that in some of them hybrid groups nah and they go run yuh.
Consumer Reports published the data and has been tracking battery pack useful life with subscriber data since the 1990s. If you want to talk about what happens only in Trinidad, in your Whatsapp group, or personal circle, state so.
I know of many owners that driving hybrids that have battery packs that are past 100,000 miles - but that is my experience.
My point stands.
If you asking that, I'd suggest you stay away from a hybrid vehicle because it seems like you're not interested in doing proper research and the mango tree mechanic will be there for you. A simple google search for "hybrid technician Trinidad" is a good start to locate, call or visit these establishments to see what you are getting into.redmanjp wrote:so my question is which hybrids would still work on the ICE engine alone if the battery stop working?
wing wrote:If you asking that, I'd suggest you stay away from a hybrid vehicle because it seems like you're not interested in doing proper research and the mango tree mechanic will be there for you. A simple google search for "hybrid technician Trinidad" is a good start to locate, call or visit these establishments to see what you are getting into.redmanjp wrote:so my question is which hybrids would still work on the ICE engine alone if the battery stop working?
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