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matix wrote:But like allyuh ain’t get the memo that they have no materials to carry out the COE
Dave wrote:Desks...stationery....really? And this comes from the President's office?????matix wrote:But like allyuh ain’t get the memo that they have no materials to carry out the COE
Even if its LMCS fault for getting into the situation. Wasn't the rescue response lacking? Or was LMCS suppose to have their own rescue plan in place?eliteauto wrote:The only acceptable result from this COE for those most vociferous on social media is one where Paria, Heritage, the Coast Guard, the Gov't, and the PNM get blamed. If it discovers that the majority of culpability lies with LMCS we will hear all the cries of political interference/allegience
Phone Surgeon wrote:Even if its LMCS fault for getting into the situation. Wasn't the rescue response lacking? Or was LMCS suppose to have their own rescue plan in place?eliteauto wrote:The only acceptable result from this COE for those most vociferous on social media is one where Paria, Heritage, the Coast Guard, the Gov't, and the PNM get blamed. If it discovers that the majority of culpability lies with LMCS we will hear all the cries of political interference/allegience
matix wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:Even if its LMCS fault for getting into the situation. Wasn't the rescue response lacking? Or was LMCS suppose to have their own rescue plan in place?eliteauto wrote:The only acceptable result from this COE for those most vociferous on social media is one where Paria, Heritage, the Coast Guard, the Gov't, and the PNM get blamed. If it discovers that the majority of culpability lies with LMCS we will hear all the cries of political interference/allegience
LMCS didn’t open the valve.
wing wrote:All of them are just money grabbing maggots. Where Prakash who was bumping non stop? All of them who received billions from 2010 onwards. This coe is just another trough for the pigs to feed. RIP to the deceased.Phone Surgeon wrote:6 months to start a SOE.
The survivor suffering for medical bills and has to try to hire his own lawyer.
Most of the deceased families in the same boat..
And no big law firm or big lawyer gonna take on this case for free because who gonna go against the government
matix wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:Even if its LMCS fault for getting into the situation. Wasn't the rescue response lacking? Or was LMCS suppose to have their own rescue plan in place?eliteauto wrote:The only acceptable result from this COE for those most vociferous on social media is one where Paria, Heritage, the Coast Guard, the Gov't, and the PNM get blamed. If it discovers that the majority of culpability lies with LMCS we will hear all the cries of political interference/allegience
LMCS didn’t turn on the valve.
maj. tom wrote:to me i hear the chairman say on the news that they don't have resources, but i waiting for a newspaper printed article to confirm that level of fckery nonsense.
sMASH wrote:matix wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:Even if its LMCS fault for getting into the situation. Wasn't the rescue response lacking? Or was LMCS suppose to have their own rescue plan in place?eliteauto wrote:The only acceptable result from this COE for those most vociferous on social media is one where Paria, Heritage, the Coast Guard, the Gov't, and the PNM get blamed. If it discovers that the majority of culpability lies with LMCS we will hear all the cries of political interference/allegience
LMCS didn’t turn on the valve.
paria still has responsibility to ensure that the contractor is abiding by the official procedures that they woudl have developed in tandem.
what ever fault the contractor has, it would have to be outside of the knowledge of paria...
so, they might hit lmcs some big money to take the fall. no appointed paria person to be targeted.
what has potential to deal blows, is if they get consultations as to what the industry standard for those jobs should be... what the procedures, equpment, isolations, hazards responses etc, and compare to what paria/lmcs was doing, and find it to be deficient
orrr, they blame a rogue whale passing causing the delta p to suck the divers in.....
De Dragon wrote:sMASH wrote:matix wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:Even if its LMCS fault for getting into the situation. Wasn't the rescue response lacking? Or was LMCS suppose to have their own rescue plan in place?eliteauto wrote:The only acceptable result from this COE for those most vociferous on social media is one where Paria, Heritage, the Coast Guard, the Gov't, and the PNM get blamed. If it discovers that the majority of culpability lies with LMCS we will hear all the cries of political interference/allegience
LMCS didn’t turn on the valve.
paria still has responsibility to ensure that the contractor is abiding by the official procedures that they woudl have developed in tandem.
what ever fault the contractor has, it would have to be outside of the knowledge of paria...
so, they might hit lmcs some big money to take the fall. no appointed paria person to be targeted.
what has potential to deal blows, is if they get consultations as to what the industry standard for those jobs should be... what the procedures, equpment, isolations, hazards responses etc, and compare to what paria/lmcs was doing, and find it to be deficient
orrr, they blame a rogue whale passing causing the delta p to suck the divers in.....
Dese fellers doesn't understand, or care it seems, about duty of care, and vicarious liability. It would shock them to know that under the new OSH regs, YOU can be held liable for a contractor's death or injury on your private premises. This sheit about diving equipment, LMCS was "de contractor" etc, is just that, sheit.
A company's responsibility is to ensure all who undertake work on their behalf,in addition to their own employees,subscribe to THEIR safety regulations. If LMCS had substandard equipment, Paria has blame for that as well as LMCS, because it's supposed to be inspected, certified, and agreed upon BEFORE work commences.
A big MC company like Paria and they don't have SME's to say that the equipment was wholly unsuitable? Nah man!
Monk BANzai wrote:De Dragon wrote:sMASH wrote:matix wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:Even if its LMCS fault for getting into the situation. Wasn't the rescue response lacking? Or was LMCS suppose to have their own rescue plan in place?eliteauto wrote:The only acceptable result from this COE for those most vociferous on social media is one where Paria, Heritage, the Coast Guard, the Gov't, and the PNM get blamed. If it discovers that the majority of culpability lies with LMCS we will hear all the cries of political interference/allegience
LMCS didn’t turn on the valve.
paria still has responsibility to ensure that the contractor is abiding by the official procedures that they woudl have developed in tandem.
what ever fault the contractor has, it would have to be outside of the knowledge of paria...
so, they might hit lmcs some big money to take the fall. no appointed paria person to be targeted.
what has potential to deal blows, is if they get consultations as to what the industry standard for those jobs should be... what the procedures, equpment, isolations, hazards responses etc, and compare to what paria/lmcs was doing, and find it to be deficient
orrr, they blame a rogue whale passing causing the delta p to suck the divers in.....
Dese fellers doesn't understand, or care it seems, about duty of care, and vicarious liability. It would shock them to know that under the new OSH regs, YOU can be held liable for a contractor's death or injury on your private premises. This sheit about diving equipment, LMCS was "de contractor" etc, is just that, sheit.
A company's responsibility is to ensure all who undertake work on their behalf,in addition to their own employees,subscribe to THEIR safety regulations. If LMCS had substandard equipment, Paria has blame for that as well as LMCS, because it's supposed to be inspected, certified, and agreed upon BEFORE work commences.
A big MC company like Paria and they don't have SME's to say that the equipment was wholly unsuitable? Nah man!
sooo all the other major disasters that had big MC Global companies with FULL HSSE Dept couldn't have foreseen the dangers before said disasters took place?
Nah man!
BTW..Ched title renamed given that we're at the COE stage of all this.
Stay Violent and Abrasive.
sMASH wrote:Well well well
I Bonx up a punkin vine family that was a welder in the lmcs crew fir that and previous jobs.
Paria had sheit planning and authorizations for the whole job.
And the isolation device left installed 3 times duration, the standard practice for its work life, until change out to a fresh device.
Nutting less than jail from ceo Come down.
They had sheit procedures, for all the experience in the country... They needed to have better official procedures for planning these high risk jobs.
Nothing gonna happen and it will be swept under the mat.... if your a AVid user of 2ner will knowsMASH wrote:Well well well
I Bonx up a punkin vine family that was a welder in the lmcs crew fir that and previous jobs.
Paria had sheit planning and authorizations for the whole job.
And the isolation device left installed 3 times duration, the standard practice for its work life, until change out to a fresh device.
Nutting less than jail from ceo Come down.
They had sheit procedures, for all the experience in the country... They needed to have better official procedures for planning these high risk jobs.
sMASH wrote:this on par with piper alpha in its set ups. not so much the outcome but the incompetence that led to the whole thing.
could make a documentary on this, to show to future technical companies, what happens when u run a place worse than a parlour.
lancer_man wrote:sMASH wrote:this on par with piper alpha in its set ups. not so much the outcome but the incompetence that led to the whole thing.
could make a documentary on this, to show to future technical companies, what happens when u run a place worse than a parlour.
The difference is that a thorough investigation was commissioned into the Piper Alpha major accident that resulted in the Cullen Report and significant improvements to industry standards and general process safety management. It was probably the single most important tragedy in offshore operations in terms of the impact to industry HSE standards.
If a thorough investigation is not being done, we are missing an opportunity to improve by enshrining in legislation measures to prevent recurrence of this and other similar major accident hazards.
De Dragon wrote:lancer_man wrote:sMASH wrote:this on par with piper alpha in its set ups. not so much the outcome but the incompetence that led to the whole thing.
could make a documentary on this, to show to future technical companies, what happens when u run a place worse than a parlour.
The difference is that a thorough investigation was commissioned into the Piper Alpha major accident that resulted in the Cullen Report and significant improvements to industry standards and general process safety management. It was probably the single most important tragedy in offshore operations in terms of the impact to industry HSE standards.
If a thorough investigation is not being done, we are missing an opportunity to improve by enshrining in legislation measures to prevent recurrence of this and other similar major accident hazards.
Nah, we should jes relax weself wit' "it does happen to oddah companies"
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