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MaxPower wrote:pugboy wrote:he was just playing stupid and prakash fall for it
Yep exactly that especially when he pauses with that dumb look on his face with his short answers.
But Prakash forcing his emotions too much. A waste of energy.
Not sure if osha and dpp could charge, or recommend to charge.
typical uninformed CEO responses
his operational managers cheeks clapping but they'll never be put on stand
I could see Michael Wei restraining himself from cussing up everybody in that COE. IYKYK
Shouldn't this have triggered some sort of response from ODPM and Ministry of Nat Security due to the nature of this disaster?
so did somebody loose out something in the other riser that they weren’t working on?
But Prakash forcing his emotions too much. A waste of energy.
timelapse wrote:One director- famous lessons teacher in south known for threatening to kick up people arse.
pugboy wrote:that not sounding good
Lessons teacher I mentioned is a bawse in physics.sMASH wrote:only time i get to vibes the CoE, was in time to hear the ali fella, say that paria wanted the line pump out fully, and he decide that he will pump put just enough to do the wuk and use the rest of the liquid as the plug to prevent the working section being exposed to atmosphere from the other berth.
the 'delta p' caused the men to suck in the pipe. the failure of the plug, exposing the working section to atmospheric pressure is was caused the delta p. the ali fella decided to let the liquid function as the plug for the wuk.
physics wise, it coudl work. but industrial practise wise, we dont rely on that for isolation. we use positive isolation, which means some solid device that creates a physical immovable barrier.
what they neeeded to do was pump out the line completely and blind the other end to atmospheric pressure. woudl take a few hours more pumping and more bilge capacity either by shore tanks or barge slops tanks, but it woudl be safe and prevent risk to life.
pugboy wrote:so it may be possible that the compressor was running too long and it blew out the liquid on the other side and everything started washing in on the habitat side and then whatever bouncing of the water column inside woulda start the delta p sucking bacchanal ?
sMASH wrote:another curious data.
when roda showed the rov camera image, it showed that the eblow was like 65ft or so down, and the first blockage was about 80 ft into the line.
the vertical line is 55ft from sea level, with 10ft above. so, the distance of the first blockage was 15ft along the horizontal stretch.
the image that stuart young showed the day after, it shows the first blockage 120ft into the piping. thats a difference of 35ft.
what caused the immovable air tanks to move 35ft?
but, i dont think thats a total of 120ft, i think thats 120ft along the horizontal section. so that the first blockage from the video to the young press release was 105ft,
the fella who blamed piper on the mic sitting with phillip, had said that subsea was called in, comercial divers with professional equipment, to blind and do what ever, while the lmcs divers were actively blocked from rescue diving.
i want to belive, that the new divers, flushed the line from the oil and forced the tanks further down the line, on paria's instruction.
cause, boodram was swming up and down the virtical line, awaiting rescue. but when the rov image showed, the level of the liquid was at least 10 ft below the mouth of the line. u cant swim up to that.
info missing and tings not lining up with paria's response after lmcs got prevented from rescue.
Phone Surgeon wrote:Didn't boodram say he use a rope or chain to try to pull himself up and eventually two rescue divers came into the chamber and pulled him up as he couldn't come out himself
16 cycles wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:Didn't boodram say he use a rope or chain to try to pull himself up and eventually two rescue divers came into the chamber and pulled him up as he couldn't come out himself
This is what i remembered, he had to wait a while for someone to hear him and assist.
ruffneck_12 wrote:16 cycles wrote:mad wrote:
Ty for sharing this..agreed @ Pug...excellent video
This is a rel good explanation. This is the first time I see a diagram explanation and it had to come from someone 8 months after in a another country. Imagine that
Slartibartfast wrote:Sidenote.... Wie insists that Paria did not instruct the Coast Guard to stop people from entering the pipeline but he also said
"Paria request the Coast Guard to assist (8 second pause) to assist people from not entering the pipeline... but not prevent them"
WTF does that even mean?! It honestly seems like Paria's strategy from the start was to play stupid and hope the issue "corrects" itself, i.e. let the guys die so they could cause confusion and say nobody could know for sure what happen and then sweep it under the rug.
Slartibartfast wrote:Sidenote.... Wie insists that Paria did not instruct the Coast Guard to stop people from entering the pipeline but he also said
"Paria request the Coast Guard to assist (8 second pause) to assist people from not entering the pipeline... but not prevent them"
WTF does that even mean?! It honestly seems like Paria's strategy from the start was to play stupid and hope the issue "corrects" itself, i.e. let the guys die so they could cause confusion and say nobody could know for sure what happen and then sweep it under the rug.
It is verbatim, I linked to the part of the video where it was said, just open the link in a new tab.De Dragon wrote:Slartibartfast wrote:Sidenote.... Wie insists that Paria did not instruct the Coast Guard to stop people from entering the pipeline but he also said
"Paria request the Coast Guard to assist (8 second pause) to assist people from not entering the pipeline... but not prevent them"
WTF does that even mean?! It honestly seems like Paria's strategy from the start was to play stupid and hope the issue "corrects" itself, i.e. let the guys die so they could cause confusion and say nobody could know for sure what happen and then sweep it under the rug.
I'm sure if pressed, the response from Paria would be that scene securing and control was the aim. While these things are indeed necessary to prevent any incident scene from devolving into a free for all, the language is either deliberately ambiguous, or false if that quote is verbatim.
I agree, the culprit seems to he complacency on everybody's part. Even the best engineers and managers become complacent from time to time but the aftermath is all on Paria IMO. They were all responsible for the incident and the injuries sustained but Paria directly and I would even say purposefully caused the deaths of at least 3 of the 4 divers that died.sMASH wrote:Also, this job became so routine for them, al parties may have been de sensitized to how easy sumting could fail and the severity.
sMASH wrote:Depending on the job or the criticality, u could let the contractor work by themselves.
But this job criticality was high on the charts so should have had continuous monitoring.
Paria was monitoring remotely.
Also, this job became so routine for them, al parties may have been de sensitized to how easy sumting could fail and the severity.
Man kill he son by working with assumptions, taking short cuts.
Paria neglected to rescue, but he put his son in jeopardy in the first place.
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