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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby hover11 » April 23rd, 2022, 2:41 am

De Dragon wrote:
hover11 wrote:All planned, IMF (world Bank of America) will lend Ukraine money as they do with weapons so the Ukrainians will be in a perpetual debt, technically, financially, politically Ukraine will be owned by America. In every war just follow the money and you ll find out who really wanted this war.


Everything with you so?
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby timelapse » April 23rd, 2022, 7:16 am

Reporter to Guyanese man: What is your opinion on Ukraine?
Guyanese man: Where de skont I getting a crane from?

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » April 23rd, 2022, 7:33 am



it still have the nazis holding out in the depths of the plant,,,, and putin will jess starve them out. what is is about russia and starving people?

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby adnj » April 23rd, 2022, 9:36 am

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At the age of 10 in October 1941, Obiedkova witnessed Nazi forces entering her native Mariupol and arresting her mother, who was among thousands of Jews executed on the city’s outskirts. SS soldiers later detained Obiedkova, but family friends managed to convince them that she was Greek. 

“Mama loved Mariupol, she never wanted to leave,” Obiedkova’s daughter Larissa said after fleeing the city. 

Larissa and her husband buried Obiedkova under nonstop shelling in a public park near the Sea of Azov. 

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/04/ ... ine-a77438

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » April 23rd, 2022, 4:53 pm

Send nukes...
U mean nudes...
No, nukes. Need to get to mariupol.
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby De Dragon » April 23rd, 2022, 7:13 pm

hover11 wrote:
De Dragon wrote:
hover11 wrote:All planned, IMF (world Bank of America) will lend Ukraine money as they do with weapons so the Ukrainians will be in a perpetual debt, technically, financially, politically Ukraine will be owned by America. In every war just follow the money and you ll find out who really wanted this war.


Everything with you so?
If you too blind to see it that can't be helped

Blind to dumb, unfounded conspiracy theories? Yes!
The IMF is the singular world lending organization that could squeeze Ukraine for $2 with the collusion of the US which has spent BILLIONS thus far, MOST of it being DONATED military hardware :roll: Stick to anti vaxxing, at least you're accepted as an "expert" in that nonsense.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » April 23rd, 2022, 9:54 pm

stop quarreling, take ah break and watch this.


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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby ed360123 » April 24th, 2022, 12:59 am

hover11 wrote:All planned, IMF (world Bank of America) will lend Ukraine money as they do with weapons so the Ukrainians will be in a perpetual debt, technically, financially, politically Ukraine will be owned by America. In every war just follow the money and you ll find out who really wanted this war.
What part of it do you think was planned exactly?

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby De Dragon » April 24th, 2022, 3:00 am

ed360123 wrote:
hover11 wrote:All planned, IMF (world Bank of America) will lend Ukraine money as they do with weapons so the Ukrainians will be in a perpetual debt, technically, financially, politically Ukraine will be owned by America. In every war just follow the money and you ll find out who really wanted this war.
What part of it do you think was planned exactly?

Don't feed it please. Look at what happened in the Covid thread. :roll:

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dizzy28 » April 24th, 2022, 11:57 pm

Two fires burning at sunrise as a result of overnight explosions in Bryansk, Russia. Oil depot and refinery.

Lots of fires in Russia these days.
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby adnj » April 26th, 2022, 7:17 am

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The U.S., meanwhile, moved to rush more weaponry to Ukraine and said the assistance from the Western allies is making a difference in the 2-month-old war.

“Russia is failing. Ukraine is succeeding,” U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken declared, a day after he and the U.S. secretary of defense made a bold visit to Kyiv to meet with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

Blinken said Washington approved a $165 million sale of ammunition — non-U.S. ammo, mainly if not entirely for Ukraine’s Soviet-era weapons — and will also provide more than $300 million in financing to buy more supplies.

U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin took his comments further, saying that while the U.S. wants to see Ukraine remain a sovereign, democratic country, it also wants “to see Russia weakened to the point where it can’t do things like invade Ukraine.”

Austin’s comments about weakening Russia appeared to represent a shift in broader U.S. strategic goals. Previously, the U.S. position had been that the goal of American military aid was to help Ukraine win and to defend Ukraine’s NATO neighbors against Russian threats.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... e85c15a3c8

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » April 26th, 2022, 9:15 am

https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/7pmnews/ppg ... ium=social


PPGPL buys an offloading facility in America.
Is either the miscalculate how much America still needs fossil fuels and in the near future and made a bad deal for our country, or they made a good projection, and fossil will be in demand for a long time so sellers will keep earning and maintain their finances.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby adnj » April 26th, 2022, 9:34 am

sMASH wrote:https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/7pmnews/ppgpl-buys-facility-in-u-s-for-us-32-m/article_ac77f884-c514-11ec-86e3-cf9ce6e94f51.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social


PPGPL buys an offloading facility in America.
Is either the miscalculate how much America still needs fossil fuels and in the near future and made a bad deal for our country, or they made a good projection, and fossil will be in demand for a long time so sellers will keep earning and maintain their finances.
The US is a net exporter of LPG at about 2 million bpd.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » April 26th, 2022, 7:55 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/7pmnews/ppgpl-buys-facility-in-u-s-for-us-32-m/article_ac77f884-c514-11ec-86e3-cf9ce6e94f51.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social


PPGPL buys an offloading facility in America.
Is either the miscalculate how much America still needs fossil fuels and in the near future and made a bad deal for our country, or they made a good projection, and fossil will be in demand for a long time so sellers will keep earning and maintain their finances.
The US is a net exporter of LPG at about 2 million bpd.

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and ppgpl saw it fit to establish its own off loading facilities on site...
lets see if it makes dollars and sense.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby De Dragon » April 27th, 2022, 1:36 pm

sMASH wrote:https://www.tv6tnt.com/news/7pmnews/ppgpl-buys-facility-in-u-s-for-us-32-m/article_ac77f884-c514-11ec-86e3-cf9ce6e94f51.html?utm_campaign=blox&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social


PPGPL buys an offloading facility in America.
Is either the miscalculate how much America still needs fossil fuels and in the near future and made a bad deal for our country, or they made a good projection, and fossil will be in demand for a long time so sellers will keep earning and maintain their finances.

Hopefully, and I say this knowing that these are the same morons who sank quarter of a billion dollars into Train 1 :roll: , that it is a hub that was already being used by some oil major to export LNG.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby RedVEVO » April 27th, 2022, 2:37 pm

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The U.S., meanwhile, moved to rush more weaponry to Ukraine and said the assistance from the Western allies is making a difference in the 2-month-old war.

“Russia is failing. Ukraine is succeeding,” U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken declared, a day after he and the U.S. secretary of defense made a bold visit to Kyiv to meet with President Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

Blinken said Washington approved a $165 million sale of ammunition — non-U.S. ammo, mainly if not entirely for Ukraine’s Soviet-era weapons — and will also provide more than $300 million in financing to buy more supplies.

U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin took his comments further, saying that while the U.S. wants to see Ukraine remain a sovereign, democratic country, it also wants “to see Russia weakened to the point where it can’t do things like invade Ukraine.”

Austin’s comments about weakening Russia appeared to represent a shift in broader U.S. strategic goals. Previously, the U.S. position had been that the goal of American military aid was to help Ukraine win and to defend Ukraine’s NATO neighbors against Russian threats.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... e85c15a3c8


Whew !

No more Nazi :D

Now the World can exhale .

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » April 27th, 2022, 3:37 pm

urkaine jess swiping that credit card, boi.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » April 27th, 2022, 9:35 pm

Now see Germany say they gonna pay in rubbels too.
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby ed360123 » April 28th, 2022, 12:06 am

sMASH wrote:Now see Germany say they gonna pay in rubbels too.
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Where? I can't find any articles.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » April 28th, 2022, 12:32 am

I think was a blomberg self...
Only seeing this, which means there as an offer to pay on rubbels.
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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Ben_spanna » April 28th, 2022, 7:07 am

https://www.msn.com/en-xl/news/other/ch ... 0b801f8c36

Not sure how much stopping business with Russia and Uk for drones will effect the war but its an interesting stet by a Chinese company.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dizzy28 » April 28th, 2022, 9:55 am

^ Ukraine receives a lot of their smaller drones as donations.
That move by DJI may affect Russia more than Ukraine but in any case Russia has indigenous production.

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby adnj » April 28th, 2022, 10:03 am

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By the numbers: More than a dozen yachts, worth approximately $2.5 billion, belonging to Russian oligarchs have been seized in several countries worldwide since the armed conflict started, and more are expected to be seized.

Millions of dollars and other assets have also been sanctioned by the U.S. and other governments.

The White House said Thursday that European Union member states have reported freezing over $30 billion in assets, including almost $7 billion in boats, helicopters, real estate and artwork.

The big picture: They are now considering what to do with the seized Russian assets, and other countries are also proposing using liquidated assets to help Ukrainian refugees or for rebuilding the country.

The Department of Justice created a Russian sanctions enforcement task force in early March.

It made its first major seizure of Russian assets in early April after, with the help of Spanish law enforcement officials, taking control of a $90 million yacht owned by oligarch and billionaire Viktor Vekselberg.

https://www.axios.com/white-house-russi ... 26884.html

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby adnj » April 28th, 2022, 10:30 am

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What are the alternatives to Russian gas in Europe?

In March, energy ministers met in Brussels to discuss how to break the dependency.

"We have to prepare for all possibilities," said France's ecological transition minister, Barbara Pompili, at the session. The EU has sufficient gas and oil stocks to withstand short-term disruption, she said, "however, there is an issue on long-term supplies".

The ministers also discussed assisting Ukraine's energy sector by accelerating a planned link of Ukraine's electricity grid with Europe's, which would make it more independent from Russia.

The crisis shows that moving away from imported fossil fuels is not just important in the fight against climate change, but as a matter of security.

Here are a few alternative options EU states will have to consider:

LNG (liquefied natural gas)

Gas is a bigger problem than oil in Europe and, although winter is coming to an end, there is still a demand for imports. And Norway, Europe’s second largest supplier after Russia, is already operating at maximum capacity.

Now that the EU is slashing Russian imports, European countries may have to divert more ships of LNG in their direction, coming from the US. Although LNG is regarded as the cleanest of the fossil fuels, it is a fossil fuel nonetheless and therefore contributes towards irreversible climate damage.

While this may fill a gap in the short-term, experts say there is not enough LNG to meet all of Europe’s energy needs. In the US they are trying to buy non-Russian natural gas from other parts of the world to keep up with demand.

Germany is specifically looking to import LNG from Qatar and buy gas from other European nations. Europe’s biggest economy may also build two of its own LNG terminals domestically.

Italy is looking into increasing gas supplies from Algeria. Algeria, which has pipelines to Spain and Italy and a large LNG terminal at Skikda, boosted oil and gas output last year by 5 per cent.

This pipeline to Italy could even have spare capacity that could be used to increase supply to Europe as a whole.

https://www.euronews.com/green/2022/04/ ... ussian-gas

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Postby adnj » April 28th, 2022, 11:13 am

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The official said the president's funding request is "what we believe is needed to enable Ukraine's success over the next five months of this war." 

"And we have every expectation that our partners and allies, particularly those of the G7, as well as many other countries, will continue to provide comparable levels of assistance going forward. so that each of us is doing our part," an official said. 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden- ... ngress.amp

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dizzy28 » April 28th, 2022, 11:19 am

Since the war is on Day 64 can the mods at least rename the thread!!

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » April 28th, 2022, 11:42 am

it takes at least a year to expand lng ports. they can fast track the contracts and documents, but that tends to evolve problems in installation and operations, so still gets pushed back .

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Dizzy28 » April 28th, 2022, 2:57 pm

Russia bombing Kyiv whilst the UN Secretary General is there

At least two explosions were heard early Thursday evening in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv shortly after a meeting between Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres.

The explosions, which sent plumes of black smoke into the air, came just shortly after the two leaders held a press conference in which Guterres condemned the atrocities committed in towns like Bucha, where evidence of mass killings of civilians was found after Russia retreated.

The explosions caused fires in at least two high-rise buildings. In footage released by the Ukrainian presidency, Guterres walked across a courtyard and met Zelenskyy outside before their meeting.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... SocialFlow

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby Bad Dog » April 28th, 2022, 7:27 pm

ed360123 wrote:
sMASH wrote:Now see Germany say they gonna pay in rubbels too. 6e0msa.jpg
Where? I can't find any articles.


As Russia stopped delivering gas to Poland and Bulgaria, other EU countries realize that Russia isn't bluffing. The Grand Chess Master made his move and Germany, Austria, Slovakia and Hungary buckled. They have agreed to open accounts with Gasprom bank to facilitate the payment for Russian oil and gas. Gasprombank will accept euros/dollars and convert payments into roubles which offers a loophole against western sanctions.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ubles.html

According to Gonzalo Lira, most people don't fully understand the implications of Russia' Gasprombank setting and controlling the exchange rate for roubles against the euro for different EU countries...breaking the Euro Since the rouble is backed by gold it will hold its value as long as there is a demand for Russian oil and gas making it credible to forex markets and weakening the US $.
https://twitter.com/GonzaloLira1968/sta ... 9902281730

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Re: Ukraine: Russia plans biggest war in Europe since 1945 - Boris Johnson

Postby sMASH » April 28th, 2022, 7:49 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Russia bombing Kyiv whilst the UN Secretary General is there

At least two explosions were heard early Thursday evening in the Ukrainian capital of Kyiv shortly after a meeting between Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and U.N. Secretary-General António Guterres.

The explosions, which sent plumes of black smoke into the air, came just shortly after the two leaders held a press conference in which Guterres condemned the atrocities committed in towns like Bucha, where evidence of mass killings of civilians was found after Russia retreated.

The explosions caused fires in at least two high-rise buildings. In footage released by the Ukrainian presidency, Guterres walked across a courtyard and met Zelenskyy outside before their meeting.
https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... SocialFlow

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let dem play mad and send nato reps there... they getting take out.

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