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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 4th, 2023, 10:50 am

The final gasps before hammer down.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » January 4th, 2023, 11:52 am

sMASH wrote:The final gasps before hammer down.
Same energy
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby viedcht » January 5th, 2023, 7:56 pm

https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/05/europe/r ... index.html

Hmmm... Poopsy wunderweapons floating out like ah fresh log.

All de cvckcheese sandwich eaters could smile ah lil bit now. Is PayPal the rubles does be coming from?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 6th, 2023, 7:03 pm

Sooo Ukraine doesn't want peace, they want to fight.

Okies, np

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 6th, 2023, 7:17 pm

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby bluefete » January 6th, 2023, 7:25 pm

sMASH wrote:Sooo Ukraine doesn't want peace, they want to fight.

Okies, np


Why you so, bai? LOL.

Ukraine wants to retake all its land that the Russian stole.

Don't forget who fired the first shot in this war, eh!

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 6th, 2023, 7:33 pm

If Ukraine wants to keep going, Okies.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 6th, 2023, 8:37 pm

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The longer the war lasts, the more likely it becomes that drones will be used to identify, select and attack targets without help from humans, according to military analysts, combatants and artificial intelligence researchers.

That would mark a revolution in military technology as profound as the introduction of the machine gun. Ukraine already has semi-autonomous attack drones and counter-drone weapons endowed with AI. Russia also claims to possess AI weaponry, though the claims are unproven. But there are no confirmed instances of a nation putting into combat robots that have killed entirely on their own.

Experts say it may be only a matter of time before either Russia or Ukraine, or both, deploy them.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 5e1c986203

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » January 10th, 2023, 10:46 am

A rare W for Russia

Russia is "likely" to now be in control most of the salt-mining town of Soledar in Ukraine's east after a months-long battle with Ukrainian forces, the UK's Ministry of Defence says.
Russian troops and the mercenary Wagner Group have made advances in the past four days, the UK says.
Soledar is near Bakhmut, where Ukraine is also locked in a bloody battle. President Zelensky said there was "almost no life" in Soledar, with "no whole walls left". He also said "the whole land near Soledar is covered with the corpses of the occupiers".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64219979

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 10th, 2023, 5:16 pm

sMASH wrote:See Ukraine is taking with mohdi concerning peace mediations.
At least he is dojng it from a position of capability after that air base attack.

If us sends that patriot missile system with the military operations teams, it will shift this conflict to another level.
Those sites would be legitimate targets, but would be us troops.


US will have to decide if it will use that as a legitimate reason to enter out right or dress back.

The patriot system is expensive, doesn't work well enough, puts us boots in direct targets.
There is not strategic advantage to sending there.
The only reason to send that there is to create pretext to enter war directly.




Faster this comes to and end, the better for all.
Ukrainians training in the US? Who could have predicted that? ;)
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The Defense Department said last month that it would send a Patriot battery to Ukraine for the first time to help Ukrainian forces improve aerial defenses. Germany later announced it would also send one of the Patriot systems from its military stockpile to help the Ukraine war effort.

But operating the missile defense system requires extensive training, and Air Force Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder, the Pentagon’s top spokesman, told reporters Tuesday that Ukrainian troops will travel to the Army’s Fort Sill where American troops are trained to use the Patriot system.

https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/202 ... 14186.html

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 10th, 2023, 8:33 pm

sMASH wrote:https://youtu.be/s_XeNuLcf2E

they getting gas, but at what costs? obviously, the citizen will pay the difference, and the politicians will just bump their salaries.

thought green energy supposed to save europe from russia, and climate change.
had to lock in a 15 year contract, guess not yet...

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » January 11th, 2023, 9:31 am

The Soviets really loved tunneling.
After reading about the extensive bunkering and tunnels under the Azovstal steel works early last year during the Siege of Mariupol now to read the Soledar Salt Mines consist of 200kms of tunnels that can also take one to Bakhmut. No wonder it was a key target.


Prigozhin and his Wagner boys in the mines of Soledar
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 11th, 2023, 10:28 am

Dizzy28 wrote:A rare W for Russia

Russia is "likely" to now be in control most of the salt-mining town of Soledar in Ukraine's east after a months-long battle with Ukrainian forces, the UK's Ministry of Defence says.
Russian troops and the mercenary Wagner Group have made advances in the past four days, the UK says.
Soledar is near Bakhmut, where Ukraine is also locked in a bloody battle. President Zelensky said there was "almost no life" in Soledar, with "no whole walls left". He also said "the whole land near Soledar is covered with the corpses of the occupiers".
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64219979
Not rare, just the back and forth of territory that goes on and on and on.


If the Ukrainians are off sites learning about the patriot system, that will take some time to get done. Prolly till summer.

By that time, Russia would advance and solidify its hold on its new territories.


Then, it would be Ukraine attacking a separate area.



At least there would not be us boots on the ground... Officially, to draw in the Americans.

We will have 6 more months of activity and then the dust will settle, with a final update to the Wikipedia page, fir years to come.





6months.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » January 11th, 2023, 12:06 pm

With the variety of equipment currently in Ukraine and more to be delivered how are their logistics and maintenance teams even keeping up??

WARSAW, Jan 11 (Reuters) - Poland plans to send Leopard tanks to Ukraine as part of an international coalition, the Polish president said on Wednesday. Kyiv has been requesting heavy military vehicles such as the German-made Leopard 2, which would represent a significant step-up in Western support to Ukraine.

"A company of Leopard tanks will be handed over as part of coalition building," Andrzej Duda said during a visit to the western Ukrainian city of Lviv. "We want it to be an international coalition."
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/po ... 023-01-11/


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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 11th, 2023, 7:18 pm

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Russia's revenue from fossil fuel exports collapsed in December, according to a new report, significantly hampering President Vladimir Putin's ability to finance the war in Ukraine.

The findings, Ukrainian officials and campaigners say, illustrate the effectiveness of targeting Russia's oil revenue and underscore the urgent need for Western policymakers to ratchet up the financial pressure on Moscow in order to help Kyiv prevail.

Published Wednesday by the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air, an independent Finnish think tank, the report found the first month of the European Union's ban on seaborne imports of Russian crude and the G-7's price cap had cost Moscow an estimated 160 million euros ($171.8 million) per day.

CREA's report said the Western measures were largely responsible for a 17% fall in Russia's earnings from fossil fuel exports in the final month of 2022. It means that Russia — one of the world's top oil producers and exporters — saw revenue from fossil fuel exports slump to its lowest level since Putin launched his full-scale invasion of Ukraine in late February.

"The EU's oil ban and the oil price cap have finally kicked in and the impact is as significant as expected," Lauri Myllyvirta, lead analyst at CREA, said in a statement.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.c ... ember.html

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby viedcht » January 11th, 2023, 8:27 pm

Who most likely to replace Poopsy?
Prigzy or Ramzan?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 11th, 2023, 9:10 pm

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Russia's revenue from fossil fuel exports collapsed in December, according to a new report, significantly hampering President Vladimir Putin's ability to finance the war in Ukraine.

The findings, Ukrainian officials and campaigners say, illustrate the effectiveness of targeting Russia's oil revenue and underscore the urgent need for Western policymakers to ratchet up the financial pressure on Moscow in order to help Kyiv prevail.

Published Wednesday by the Centre for Research on Energy and Clean Air, an independent Finnish think tank, the report found the first month of the European Union's ban on seaborne imports of Russian crude and the G-7's price cap had cost Moscow an estimated 160 million euros ($171.8 million) per day.

CREA's report said the Western measures were largely responsible for a 17% fall in Russia's earnings from fossil fuel exports in the final month of 2022. It means that Russia — one of the world's top oil producers and exporters — saw revenue from fossil fuel exports slump to its lowest level since Putin launched his full-scale invasion of Ukraine in late February.

"The EU's oil ban and the oil price cap have finally kicked in and the impact is as significant as expected," Lauri Myllyvirta, lead analyst at CREA, said in a statement.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.c ... ember.html
Oil PRICE cap, is an oil cap.
Who dint want to pay, will not receive.
China and India paying, so they receiving.

A drop in revenue is not automatically hampering efforts.
300k already there, funded and fed.

6 more months, till the dust settles.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 11th, 2023, 9:53 pm

sMASH wrote:Next
Three
Months.

sMASH wrote:6 more months, till the dust settles.


It seems as if three months stopped working for you.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 11th, 2023, 10:09 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:Next
Three
Months.

sMASH wrote:6 more months, till the dust settles.


It seems as if three months stopped working for you.
Three months for the game to be afoot.
6 months to be a footnote

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » January 12th, 2023, 12:59 pm

Putin has removed Sergei Surovikin as commander of Russian forces in Ukraine after less than 3 months.
Replaced with Valery Gerasimov, current chief of defence staff.

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All according to plan!!!!

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dohplaydat » January 12th, 2023, 2:13 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Putin has removed Sergei Surovikin as commander of Russian forces in Ukraine after less than 3 months.
Replaced with Valery Gerasimov, current chief of defence staff.

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All according to plan!!!!


Is Putin shifting the blame onto the guy who's the biggest threat to his leadership?

Could easily backfire too if Russia could potentially make good gains in 2023.

Listening to the analysts in the recent week, it's clear Russia is making slow gains in Soledar and they are also preparing to make a big spring offensive in Feb/Mar.

Soviet weapons may not be on par performance with all the NATO weapons Ukraine has but Russia is pumping them out fast, replacing missiles and tanks faster than they're losing them in Ukraine.

If the west doesn't want Ukraine to fall they NEED to send as much offensive equipment as possible,

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 17th, 2023, 12:32 pm

https://youtube.com/watch?v=j10Y4l1OkyA ... IECMiOmarE



If the goal is to orirect Ukrainians, that's not the way. U dint save people by killing people.
They should not have taken that defensive strike.


Negotiate and save what's remaining; continue and end up with nothing.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » January 17th, 2023, 12:55 pm

It's a good thing dash cams are ubiquitous in Eastern Europe. The missile came in intact on the building.

Russians take out their inadequacies as a fighting force on civilians as they have been doing since the war began. Third world army with nuclear weapons
sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=j10Y4l1OkyA&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE



If the goal is to orirect Ukrainians, that's not the way. U dint save people by killing people.
They should not have taken that defensive strike.


Negotiate and save what's remaining; continue and end up with nothing.
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » January 17th, 2023, 1:40 pm

Russia AKA North North Korea.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 17th, 2023, 3:29 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:It's a good thing dash cams are ubiquitous in Eastern Europe. The missile came in intact on the building.

Russians take out their inadequacies as a fighting force on civilians as they have been doing since the war began. Third world army with nuclear weapons
sMASH wrote:https://youtube.com/watch?v=j10Y4l1OkyA&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE



If the goal is to orirect Ukrainians, that's not the way. U dint save people by killing people.
They should not have taken that defensive strike.


Negotiate and save what's remaining; continue and end up with nothing.
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Ukraine launched the intercept over a civilian area.... It's either it will miss, or it will hit, but fall on the civilians.

Seems Ukraine don't like their own people.

If ur in the way, just consider urself dispensable

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » January 17th, 2023, 4:40 pm

Even if Ukraine did try to intercept, a KH 22 missile (what was used by Russia) has a 1,000kg warhead. An intercepted missile broken up into many parts is a better bet for damage control than a 1,000kg warhead slamming into any one area.

But hey Smash say Ukraine hates its own people unless they let these uber large, uber inaccurate missiles fall .

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 17th, 2023, 9:35 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:Even if Ukraine did try to intercept, a KH 22 missile (what was used by Russia) has a 1,000kg warhead. An intercepted missile broken up into many parts is a better bet for damage control than a 1,000kg warhead slamming into any one area.

But hey Smash say Ukraine hates its own people unless they let these uber large, uber inaccurate missiles fall .
How u mean 'even if'?

Thats how the missile came down...

But that wasnt the target.
Ukraine intercepted it in a populated area and cause more death than if they just let it hit its target.



Yes, Ukraine accustomed to bombing the donbsss since 2014

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby timelapse » January 18th, 2023, 9:53 am

I don't know who needs to hear this but facts
https://youtube.com/shorts/n3CN4AtBc5Y?feature=share

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » January 18th, 2023, 1:44 pm

Coukd walk and chew gum at the same time.


https://youtube.com/watch?v=AjwSNiCSpnw ... IECMiOmarE

Now this is where CNN was showing how Ukraine was bombing the ethnic Russians in donbass since 2014.

Why letting civilian destruction isn't anything immoral fur them

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby timelapse » January 18th, 2023, 5:00 pm

^What day you flying out to Ukraine? Ah go drop you in the airport.
Stay focused King, there is a war going on right here in this country that nobody cares enough about.People dedding like flies every day because the criminal gangs have waged war with everybody else.Lewwe fix that before getting involved in other people's business on the next side of the planet

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