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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » September 18th, 2022, 7:45 pm

https://youtu.be/CIJLhHcxp7k



i dont have money on russia. i just want them to get rid of ukrainian nazis. let the eastern non nazi states secede from ukraine and be independent.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » September 18th, 2022, 7:55 pm

Ukraine the Nazis but somehow the mass murder of civilians and mass graves are their people. smash you sure you even know what the definition of a Nazi is?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » September 18th, 2022, 8:11 pm

sMASH wrote:
https://youtu.be/CIJLhHcxp7k



i dont have money on russia. i just want them to get rid of ukrainian nazis. let the eastern non nazi states secede from ukraine and be independent.


What you want doesn't matter in the EU, Ukraine or US. And probably not in Trinidad either. LOLOL

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » September 18th, 2022, 8:28 pm

adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
https://youtu.be/CIJLhHcxp7k



i dont have money on russia. i just want them to get rid of ukrainian nazis. let the eastern non nazi states secede from ukraine and be independent.


What you want doesn't matter in the EU, Ukraine or US. And probably not in Trinidad either. LOLOL

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
what an amazing comeback, dude. that is as brilliant as russia taking kyiv

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » September 18th, 2022, 9:02 pm

sMASH wrote:
adnj wrote:
sMASH wrote:
https://youtu.be/CIJLhHcxp7k



i dont have money on russia. i just want them to get rid of ukrainian nazis. let the eastern non nazi states secede from ukraine and be independent.


What you want doesn't matter in the EU, Ukraine or US. And probably not in Trinidad either. LOLOL


what an amazing comeback, dude. that is as brilliant as russia taking kyiv
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Other Russian forces struck elsewhere across Ukraine, including toward the eastern city of Kharkiv as well as in the contested Donbas region and along the Black Sea coast. But as the seat of national power, Kyiv was the main prize. Thus the thrust by elite airborne forces in the war’s opening hours.

But Putin failed to achieve his goal of quickly crushing Ukraine’s outgunned and outnumbered army. The Russians were ill-prepared for Ukrainian resistance, proved incapable of adjusting to setbacks, failed to effectively combine air and land operations, misjudged Ukraine’s ability to defend its skies, and bungled basic military functions like planning and executing the movement of supplies.

“That’s a really bad combination if you want to conquer a country,” said Peter Mansoor, a retired Army colonel and professor of military history at Ohio State University.

For now at least, Putin’s forces have shifted away from Kyiv, to eastern Ukraine. Ultimately, the Russian leader may achieve some of his objectives. Yet his failure to seize Kyiv will be long remembered — for how it defied prewar expectations and exposed surprising weaknesses in a military thought to be one of the strongest in the world.

“It’s stunning,” said military historian Frederick Kagan of the the American Enterprise Institute’s Critical Threats Project, who says he knows of no parallel to a major military power like Russia invading a country at the time of its choosing and failing so utterly.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukrai ... 21af2d5340

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » September 18th, 2022, 9:41 pm

https://youtu.be/uFDTfODKG9k


europe is gonnna be fine...
more #delusionalshit

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby matr1x » September 19th, 2022, 9:22 am

adnj wrote:
matr1x wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Your friend jump in a latrine would you?
matr1x wrote:America invades countries....no on bats an eye.


Just saying



Russia just taking back what was once theirs
Venezuelans taking back what was once theirs.

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It was never theirs

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » September 19th, 2022, 10:27 am

matr1x wrote:
adnj wrote:
matr1x wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Your friend jump in a latrine would you?
matr1x wrote:America invades countries....no on bats an eye.


Just saying



Russia just taking back what was once theirs
Venezuelans taking back what was once theirs.

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It was never theirs


Not the modern day Venezuela but previous iterations of it -

Let me introduce you to the Captaincy General of Venezuela -
The territory of modern Venezuela was conquered by Spain in the early 16th century. Since the mid 16th century part of the Audiencia of Santo Domingo (Viceroyalty of New Spain). Between 1717 and 1777 the provinces of Caracas, Cumana, Guyana, Trinidad and Margarita were transferred from the Audiencia of Santo Domingo to the Viceroyalty of New Granada. The Captaincy General of Venezuela, with Caracas as capital, was established in 1777. In 1802 Spain ceded the island of Trinidad (to Britain. In 1823 Venezuela achieved independence as part of Gran Colombia; in 1830 Venezuela declared independence from the latter.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » September 19th, 2022, 10:38 am

matr1x wrote:
adnj wrote:
matr1x wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:Your friend jump in a latrine would you?
matr1x wrote:America invades countries....no on bats an eye.


Just saying



Russia just taking back what was once theirs
Venezuelans taking back what was once theirs.

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It was never theirs
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby matr1x » September 19th, 2022, 8:53 pm

We talking since the British. Spain claim all kinda thing.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » September 21st, 2022, 6:49 am

Mobilization ordered albeit partial.
All part of the plan!!!!!
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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby SuperiorMan » September 21st, 2022, 11:06 am

Putin escalates Ukraine war, issues nuclear threat to West


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pu ... 022-09-21/

Hmmmmmm.....

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby timelapse » September 21st, 2022, 12:00 pm

SuperiorMan wrote:Putin escalates Ukraine war, issues nuclear threat to West


https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pu ... 022-09-21/

Hmmmmmm.....
Ohgadoye Wegodead?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby SuperiorMan » September 21st, 2022, 2:56 pm

Nahhh. Putin getting on bad.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » September 21st, 2022, 6:34 pm

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The Moscow prosecutor's office on Wednesday warned that calls on the internet to join unauthorised street protests, or participation in them, could incur up to 15 years in jail. They could be prosecuted under laws against discrediting the armed forces, spreading "fake news" about Russia's military operation in Ukraine, or encouraging minors to protest.

Russia's tough penalties for spreading "disinformation" about the Ukraine war and police harassment of anti-Putin activists have made public anti-war protests rare.

But the anti-war opposition group Vesna called for widespread protests, and on Telegram it reported many arrests across Russia. A video clip from Yekaterinburg showed police violently bundling protesters into a bus.

Vesna called its action "no to mogilisation" - a play on words, because "mogila" in Russian means grave.

Pavel Chikov, a lawyer for the Russian human rights group Agora, said Agora had received 6,000 inquiries to its hotline since Tuesday morning, from Russians wanting information about soldiers' rights.

Meanwhile, flights to popular destinations such as Istanbul in Turkey and Yerevan in Armenia were snapped up, and prices for remaining seats skyrocketed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62981293

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » September 22nd, 2022, 9:18 am

Arrested individuals have been getting draft orders in jail.

But as much is it noble to protest now fcuk those Russkies. 6 Months of atrocities (Bucha, Izyum, Mariupol) and they sleep. Now that they realize they going into the meat grinder they protesting. They really only protesting themselves having to fight and not necessarily the war.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby adnj » September 22nd, 2022, 12:13 pm

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London CNN Business — 

The US dollar climbed to a new two-decade high on Wednesday after Russia said it was mobilizing 300,000 military reserves in an escalation of the war in Ukraine.

In a televised national address Wednesday, President Vladimir Putin announced an immediate partial mobilization of Russian citizens and threatened to use “all the means at our disposal” to defend Russia “and our people.” He also referenced the potential use of nuclear weapons.

The speech pushed the greenback up 0.4% against a basket of major currencies to its strongest level since 2002. Investors often seek safe haven in US dollar assets during times of geopolitical tension.

Oil prices also jumped. Brent crude futures, the global benchmark, gained 2.5%, rising to just below $93 per barrel.

Russian stocks slid 3.5% Wednesday after the announcement, adding to heavy losses incurred Tuesday after Putin threatened to hold referendums to annex parts of Ukraine still occupied by Russian forces. The ruble also dropped nearly 3% against the US dollar.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/21/inve ... index.html

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » September 22nd, 2022, 1:22 pm

elections this weekend? will it follow crimea?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » September 22nd, 2022, 2:27 pm

i was wondering what russia has spent so far on ukraine.. its 6bn.. i assume in USd.

6bn compared to how much US/NATO sent, in addition to legit ukraine arms.

and russia has 200k troops in the region... prolly active. so they did all that with 300k troops to be generous... not bad

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » September 22nd, 2022, 2:35 pm

sMASH wrote:i was wondering what russia has spent so far on ukraine.. its 6bn.. i assume in USd.

6bn compared to how much US/NATO sent, in addition to legit ukraine arms.

and russia has 200k troops in the region... prolly active. so they did all that with 300k troops to be generous... not bad


There's no way Russia spent 6b overall on their war effort thus far. Probably per day would be closer.
The Moskava was a billion dollar ship, one Kalibr missile is US$6.5m and one Iskander missile is US$3m and Russia has fired hundreds of those.

You can't be so ignorant of global economics to think a 6 month war would only cost Russia what America spends in 2 days on their military.

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Russia spending is approximately US$20b per day on their war effort. This doesn't include the future economic losses as they lose productive age men, the effect of sanctions and other economic declines.
https://www.consultancy.eu/news/7433/re ... on-per-day

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » September 22nd, 2022, 3:00 pm

Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:i was wondering what russia has spent so far on ukraine.. its 6bn.. i assume in USd.

6bn compared to how much US/NATO sent, in addition to legit ukraine arms.

and russia has 200k troops in the region... prolly active. so they did all that with 300k troops to be generous... not bad


There's no way Russia spent 6b overall on their war effort thus far. Probably per day would be closer.
The Moskava was a billion dollar ship, one Kalibr missile is US$6.5m and one Iskander missile is US$3m and Russia has fired hundreds of those.

You can't be so ignorant of global economics to think a 6 month war would only cost Russia what America spends in 2 days on their military.

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Russia spending is approximately US$20b per day on their war effort. This doesn't include the future economic losses as they lose productive age men, the effect of sanctions and other economic declines.
https://www.consultancy.eu/news/7433/re ... on-per-day

20bn ah day hoss??? 20bn ah day?? if is dat, that means russia is rich. after 6months, that should be 3.6tn dollars.
they still have the rest of the country to run..
or, is their fossil sales a lot better than the western media is making it out to be...

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby aaron17 » September 22nd, 2022, 3:05 pm

This negative impact could last years?

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby Dizzy28 » September 22nd, 2022, 3:19 pm

sMASH wrote:
Dizzy28 wrote:
sMASH wrote:i was wondering what russia has spent so far on ukraine.. its 6bn.. i assume in USd.

6bn compared to how much US/NATO sent, in addition to legit ukraine arms.

and russia has 200k troops in the region... prolly active. so they did all that with 300k troops to be generous... not bad


There's no way Russia spent 6b overall on their war effort thus far. Probably per day would be closer.
The Moskava was a billion dollar ship, one Kalibr missile is US$6.5m and one Iskander missile is US$3m and Russia has fired hundreds of those.

You can't be so ignorant of global economics to think a 6 month war would only cost Russia what America spends in 2 days on their military.

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Russia spending is approximately US$20b per day on their war effort. This doesn't include the future economic losses as they lose productive age men, the effect of sanctions and other economic declines.
https://www.consultancy.eu/news/7433/re ... on-per-day

20bn ah day hoss??? 20bn ah day?? if is dat, that means russia is rich. after 6months, that should be 3.6tn dollars.
they still have the rest of the country to run..
or, is their fossil sales a lot better than the western media is making it out to be...


Take up any mathematical issues with the ppl who did the report.
But in the first week they had already spent US$7b so you know its big numbers you dealing with.

Ukraine's war effort is costing them US$10b per month. But when you add in economic losses and civilian infrastructure that would need to be rebuilt they at negative US$750b.

Modern war is expensive

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby SuperiorMan » September 22nd, 2022, 3:30 pm

Disappointed in Putin. Putin outsmarted Obama and Trump. Can't believe it's Biden that got this one over him.

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby sMASH » September 22nd, 2022, 3:46 pm

the money may not be accurate, cause they may be calculating it per american item. the russian item would be far cheaper. like, tank for tank and gun for gun, the russian army would be cheaper.

but still, that still sounding high. thats a lot of money, even for america. even if is 1/3, that is like 1tn US... nah.
russian oil realllly need to spend to continue this.

at least, they will hold elections to say if the eastern states want to secede ukraine. crimea+

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

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While the flow of Russian fuels is set to pick up, there’s a possibility Asia can’t fully digest all the excess, contributing to lower prices and a rise in volumes stored at sea, especially as slowing economic growth may dent demand.

Local markets for naphtha and high-sulfur fuel oil, HSFO, are already oversupplied, in part due to an influx of Russian products. Highlighting that situation, the prompt timespread for HSFO is in contango, a bearish structure in which later-delivered cargoes cost more. That offers sellers an incentive to store fuel for later sale.

The volume of Russian crude and oil products being stored at sea worldwide swelled to 5.67 million barrels as of Sept. 11, up from 2.9 million barrels at the start of the year, according to Kpler data.

“We expect a continued build up in Russian products on the water,” said Rahul Kapoor, head of commodity analytics & research at S&P Global.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/ ... sanctions/

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Re: Ukraine Russia War

Postby shogun » September 22nd, 2022, 8:00 pm

Feelin' bad for sMASH yes.

MONTHS later, and Putin looking more and more isolated, hated and yet still making threats at this late date? Not to mention his actions giving NATO all the relevance it needed, just as they were becoming irrelevant. Nice move Putz. Still somehow men still air-defending harder than Putin opponents at his fake state media Judo contests.

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