Ukraine Russia War

[adnj]

There's a great deal of political analysis in print regarding further breakaway by Russian regions from the federation for purely economic reasons that goes back nearly twenty years.

[Dizzy28]

There's a great deal of political analysis in print regarding further breakaway by Russian regions from the federation for purely economic reasons that goes back nearly twenty years.

I think Smash happy wearing a Che Tshirt here in TT and espousing contrarian views whilst living in western democratic freedoms unaware of what he actually thinks he supporting.

[adnj]

There's a great deal of political analysis in print regarding further breakaway by Russian regions from the federation for purely economic reasons that goes back nearly twenty years.

I think Smash happy wearing a Che Tshirt here in TT and espousing contrarian views whilst living in western democratic freedoms unaware of what he actually thinks he supporting.

Being pessimistic or contrarian is one thing. Being on the wrong side of every fact-based discussion is something different.

The internet needs fewer stupid trolls.

[sMASH]

There's a great deal of political analysis in print regarding further breakaway by Russian regions from the federation for purely economic reasons that goes back nearly twenty years.

I think Smash happy wearing a Che Tshirt here in TT and espousing contrarian views whilst living in western democratic freedoms unaware of what he actually thinks he supporting.

Being pessimistic or contraian is one thing. Being on the wrong side of every fact based discussion is something different.

The internet needs fewer stupid trolls.

That hurt, man. A little more than the virus.


I still waiting to see how Russia fall down flat cause the sanctions and ostracization demolished their finances.

[Dizzy28]

^ Its likely that's not where the fall will come from.

Internal strife will be their most probable cause - Minorities have been disproportionately sent to Ukraine (Burats, Kalmyks etc.).
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/2 ... -of-racism

Chechens still want an independent but the Moscow money to Kadyrov keeping them quiet for now.
Dagestan, Ingushetia etc will all welcome Independence.

[adnj]

There's a great deal of political analysis in print regarding further breakaway by Russian regions from the federation for purely economic reasons that goes back nearly twenty years.

I think Smash happy wearing a Che Tshirt here in TT and espousing contrarian views whilst living in western democratic freedoms unaware of what he actually thinks he supporting.

Being pessimistic or contraian is one thing. Being on the wrong side of every fact based discussion is something different.

The internet needs fewer stupid trolls.

That hurt, man. A little more than the virus.


I still waiting to see how Russia fall down flat cause the sanctions and ostracization demolished their finances.

When you wake up in a pool of your own piss and start posting, it seems to include a new, delusional interpretation of reality. I can't say that any government imposed sanctions on Russia or Belarus to "fall down flat" or "demolished their finances".

The objective was to make the aggression in Ukraine unacceptably painful.

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The aim of the economic sanctions is to impose severe consequences on Russia for its actions and to effectively thwart Russian abilities to continue the aggression.

The individual sanctions target people responsible for supporting, financing or implementing actions which undermine the territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence of Ukraine or who benefit from these actions.

[sMASH]

^ Its likely that's not where the fall will come from.

Internal strife will be their most probable cause - Minorities have been disproportionately sent to Ukraine (Burats, Kalmyks etc.).
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/8/2 ... -of-racism

Chechens still want an independent but the Moscow money to Kadyrov keeping them quiet for now.
Dagestan, Ingushetia etc will all welcome Independence.

No no no. U all said the sanctions will cripple Russia, and that they will become a pariah state, so much so, the people will be starving and dragging in the streets.
No one would be trading with Russia, and they will be forced to stop the war...
That is, if Ukraine didn't beat them first, cause Ukraine had NATO trained and experienced forces.


More or less said all that was bs, cause people have more important things to do, and Russian forces had experience in Syria... Which is actually more urban.




U all keep basing ur projections on what u all wish would happen.

I keep my projections based.





And no, Russia dies not want an all out nato war. It will not survive a nato war.


But against Ukraine, it will overcome them. Obviously with losses.

[adnj]

The dog told him to post some more delusiinal stupidshitt. What I recall reading was:

Ukraine must surrender
Europe will freeze
Ruble is doing great
US dollars are failing
Ukraine can't win
Proxy war
NATO's fault
USA's fault
Russia was provoked
US started it
US needs to sell guns
Sanctions won't work
Europe will burn their forests
BRICS is now the biggest trade block
India sides with Russia
China sides with Russia
Ukrainians side with Russia
Zylenskey is just a comedian
NATO provoked them
US provoked them
The West will fail
Europe will fail
The US will fail
You'd better start speaking Russian
Europe needs Russian gas
It'll be over in a couple of weeks
US shouldn't be meddling
NATO shouldn't be meddling
Ukraine is beaten already
Putin is a master strategist
Putin has something up his sleeve

[sMASH]

The dog told him to post some more delusiinal stupidshitt. What I recall reading was:

Ukraine must surrender
Europe will freeze
Ruble is doing great
US dollars are failing
Ukraine can't win
Proxy war
NATO's fault
USA's fault
Russia was provoked
US started it
US needs to sell guns
Sanctions won't work
Europe will burn their forests
BRICS is now the biggest trade block
India sides with Russia
China sides with Russia
Ukrainians side with Russia
Zylenskey is just a comedian
NATO provoked them
US provoked them
The West will fail
Europe will fail
The US will fail
You'd better start speaking Russian
Europe needs Russian gas
It'll be over in a couple of weeks
US shouldn't be meddling
NATO shouldn't be meddling
Ukraine is beaten already
Putin is a master strategist
Putin has something up his sleeve

at least u stated it. some of that is going on, and some not. but calling all 'delusional', lessens the meaning of the word 'delusional'.

i will just contest one point: if europe doenst need russian gas, they could cancel all contracts IMMEDIATELY, shut off all supplies of russian gas, even the ones that they get via third party, like via india or USA.

#DelusionalShit

[adnj]

The dog told him to post some more delusiinal stupidshitt. What I recall reading was:

Ukraine must surrender
Europe will freeze
Ruble is doing great
US dollars are failing
Ukraine can't win
Proxy war
NATO's fault
USA's fault
Russia was provoked
US started it
US needs to sell guns
Sanctions won't work
Europe will burn their forests
BRICS is now the biggest trade block
India sides with Russia
China sides with Russia
Ukrainians side with Russia
Zylenskey is just a comedian
NATO provoked them
US provoked them
The West will fail
Europe will fail
The US will fail
You'd better start speaking Russian
Europe needs Russian gas
It'll be over in a couple of weeks
US shouldn't be meddling
NATO shouldn't be meddling
Ukraine is beaten already
Putin is a master strategist
Putin has something up his sleeve

at least u stated it. some of that is going on, and some not. but calling all 'delusional', lessens the meaning of the word 'delusional'.

i will just contest one point: if europe doenst need russian gas, they could cancel all contracts IMMEDIATELY, shut off all supplies of russian gas, even the ones that they get via third party, like via india or USA.

#DelusionalShit

No. I didn't state. I read. In this thread.

[adnj]

The refusal to buy Russian oil by some traditional customers in Europe means Moscow has been forced to sell oil at a steep discount in Asian markets, depriving it of the full benefit of higher prices. While August saw record-high spot gas prices in Europe, gas levies, which take up a smaller share in the budget, couldn’t fully offset lower oil revenues. State-run Gazprom PJSC has significantly cut gas exports to Europe this summer, blaming sanctions for capped flows.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ify%20wall

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

Thirty-five Russian municipal deputies signed a petition demanding him to resign from office due to the "harm" inflicted onto Russia due to the invasion, tweeted Ksenia Tortstrem on Monday, who serves as a municipal deputy in St. Petersburg's Smolninskoye municipal territory.

So far, municipal leaders from several important Russian cities, such as Moscow, have signed onto the demand. Tortstem wrote the petition does not "discredit" anyone, an apparent jab at Russian authorities who have charged critics with discrediting the government.

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-offici ... es-1742156

CNN report

[MG Man]

so they gonna fall out of windows, or fall off speed boats?

[pugboy]

them fellas real brave
might get polonium poison in their tea or vodka

[Dizzy28]

so they gonna fall out of windows, or fall off speed boats?

Borsht with a side of Polonium
Novichok if Vlad feeks generous.

[sMASH]

The refusal to buy Russian oil by some traditional customers in Europe means Moscow has been forced to sell oil at a steep discount in Asian markets, depriving it of the full benefit of higher prices. While August saw record-high spot gas prices in Europe, gas levies, which take up a smaller share in the budget, couldn’t fully offset lower oil revenues. State-run Gazprom PJSC has significantly cut gas exports to Europe this summer, blaming sanctions for capped flows.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ify%20wall

That's what u read, cause that's what u post.

Expected. Still selling, still making money. Less, but not none.

Again, can Europe cut all streams of Russian petrochemicals now?
No.
That's not delirious sheit, that's just how it is.

[adnj]

The refusal to buy Russian oil by some traditional customers in Europe means Moscow has been forced to sell oil at a steep discount in Asian markets, depriving it of the full benefit of higher prices. While August saw record-high spot gas prices in Europe, gas levies, which take up a smaller share in the budget, couldn’t fully offset lower oil revenues. State-run Gazprom PJSC has significantly cut gas exports to Europe this summer, blaming sanctions for capped flows.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ify%20wall

That's what u read, cause that's what u post.

Expected. Still selling, still making money. Less, but not none.

Again, can Europe cut all streams of Russian petrochemicals now?
No.
That's not delirious sheit, that's just how it is.

Since shitt won't stick. One more time:

The objective was to make the aggression in Ukraine unacceptably painful.

--------

The aim of the economic sanctions is to impose severe consequences on Russia for its actions and to effectively thwart Russian abilities to continue the aggression.

The individual sanctions target people responsible for supporting, financing or implementing actions which undermine the territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence of Ukraine or who benefit from these actions.

[shogun]

When Russian state tele looks like this, something up.

[sMASH]

The refusal to buy Russian oil by some traditional customers in Europe means Moscow has been forced to sell oil at a steep discount in Asian markets, depriving it of the full benefit of higher prices. While August saw record-high spot gas prices in Europe, gas levies, which take up a smaller share in the budget, couldn’t fully offset lower oil revenues. State-run Gazprom PJSC has significantly cut gas exports to Europe this summer, blaming sanctions for capped flows.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... ify%20wall

That's what u read, cause that's what u post.

Expected. Still selling, still making money. Less, but not none.

Again, can Europe cut all streams of Russian petrochemicals now?
No.
That's not delirious sheit, that's just how it is.

Since shitt won't stick. One more time:

The objective was to make the aggression in Ukraine unacceptably painful.

--------

The aim of the economic sanctions is to impose severe consequences on Russia for its actions and to effectively thwart Russian abilities to continue the aggression.

The individual sanctions target people responsible for supporting, financing or implementing actions which undermine the territorial integrity, sovereignty and independence of Ukraine or who benefit from these actions.

It's acceptably painful.
And euro heads said they want to wean off Russian gas, cuase "Ukraine" or "green energy"... What ever.
Fire up the coal plants.


#DilusionalShit

[adnj]

ISTANBUL — Fighting erupted Tuesday between Armenia and Azerbaijan, the latest flare-up in their decades-long confrontation in the South Caucasus, killing as many as 100 service members and raising the prospect of fallout from the war in Ukraine spreading instability across a wider region.

Each side blamed the other for the fighting that broke out along their border early on Tuesday, the worst escalation of hostilities between the two countries since a 2020 war and a cease-fire brokered by Russia that ended large-scale fighting.

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/13/worl ... flict.html

[pugboy]

ukraine need to do an israel and start taking pieces of russia

[Dizzy28]

ukraine need to do an israel and start taking pieces of russia

That will possibly be the red line on use of nuclear weapons by Russia

[adnj]

Goldman Sachs said the price of gas was likely to more than halve this winter as efforts by EU countries’ to avoid big shortages this winter prove effective.

Goldman said on Tuesday it expected European wholesale natural gas prices to fall from about €215 (£186) a megawatt hour to below €100 a MWh by the end of the first quarter of next year, assuming typical winter weather conditions. That is well below the €213 previously predicted.

Goldman Sachs analysts said: “The indefinite reduction in NS1 exports to zero leaves north-west Europe without any Russian gas going forward. And while we often hear the question of what this will do to storage, we believe a better approach is to ask what this will do to prices, so that storage continues to build as needed.

“This is the puzzle Europe has successfully solved for the past year, with a combination of gas demand destruction within Europe and across [liquified natural gas] buyers elsewhere in the world, resulting in above-average inventory builds.”

Goldman’s analysts said they expected storage facilities to be 90% full on average by the end of October, before an EU-wide target of 80% full by 1 November.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -eu-russia

[sMASH]

Goldman Sachs said the price of gas was likely to more than halve this winter as efforts by EU countries’ to avoid big shortages this winter prove effective.

Goldman said on Tuesday it expected European wholesale natural gas prices to fall from about €215 (£186) a megawatt hour to below €100 a MWh by the end of the first quarter of next year, assuming typical winter weather conditions. That is well below the €213 previously predicted.

Goldman Sachs analysts said: “The indefinite reduction in NS1 exports to zero leaves north-west Europe without any Russian gas going forward. And while we often hear the question of what this will do to storage, we believe a better approach is to ask what this will do to prices, so that storage continues to build as needed.

“This is the puzzle Europe has successfully solved for the past year, with a combination of gas demand destruction within Europe and across [liquified natural gas] buyers elsewhere in the world, resulting in above-average inventory builds.”

Goldman’s analysts said they expected storage facilities to be 90% full on average by the end of October, before an EU-wide target of 80% full by 1 November.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -eu-russia

Eh,,,, prices will fall, just as demand will be easing...
Noice Lil projection there, Goldman!

[Dizzy28]

Did they put a coffin in the middle of the conference table?

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/09/15/asia ... index.html

[88sins]

Anybody know approximately how much involvement has the UK had in this conflict by way of military and financial aid to Ukraine thus far?

Cuz something telling me, it about the come to an abrupt halt

[Dizzy28]

Anybody know approximately how much involvement has the UK had in this conflict by way of military and financial aid to Ukraine thus far?

Cuz something telling me, it about the come to an abrupt halt

A Parliament report dated Aug 15 2022 lists the aid as
The UK has committed £2.3 billion in military assistance to Ukraine since February 2022. £250 million of that money has been committed to the International Fund for Ukraine.
• Combined with economic and humanitarian assistance, the UK has committed a total of £3.8 billion to Ukraine since February 2022.
• The UK has provided defensive lethal weaponry, including over 6,900 anti-tank missiles, five air defence systems, 120 armoured fighting vehicles, 1,360 anti-structure munitions, 4.5 tonnes of plastic explosives and 400,000 rounds of small arms ammunition.
• At the beginning of June 2022, the MOD confirmed that it would provide long range artillery capabilities, comprising three M270 multiple launch rocket systems, associated munitions and requisite training.
• The UK has sent over 200,000 items of non-lethal aid, including body armour, helmets, night vision equipment and medical equipment.
• The UK has established a long-term training programme for the Ukrainian armed forces, with the potential to train up to 10,000 new and existing Ukrainian soldiers every 120 days. The Netherlands, Canada, Sweden, Finland, Norway and Denmark have announced their participation.
https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/re ... /cbp-9477/

[matr1x]

Why is the west propping up this stupid war?

[sMASH]

anybody know how much arms ukraine sponsor in this war?

[Dizzy28]

anybody know how much arms ukraine sponsor in this war?

Why would Ukraine need to sponsor arms. They are literally at war.