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Dizzy28 wrote:^ Europe will survive a winter without Russian gas. The country of Russia may not survive this war.
As you probably don't know Russia is a Federation of subjects - oblasts, Republics, krais etc. each with a distinct demographic makeup. Yakutsk, their largest Republic doesn't even have its majority of population as being ethnic Russia.
Kadyrov is already signalling his discontent with the way the war has proceeded.
Once the "special military operation" turned into a war Russia lost.
Dizzy28 wrote:^ Russia hasn't even faced the best NATO has to offer -
Leopards and Abrams
F15s, 16s, 22s and their suite of armaments
B2s, B52s, B1B Lancers
HIMARS with ATCMS
Patriot Missiles
Tomahawks
Russia really only has its nuclear deterrence, but apart from that they are the proverbial Gucci wearing poor man.
Indian prime minister Narendra Modi has told Russian president Vladimir Putin that now is “not an era of war”, in some of his most pointed public remarks yet about Russia’s invasion of Ukraine. At a meeting between the Indian and Russian leaders in Uzbekistan on Friday, Putin publicly acknowledged New Delhi’s “concerns” about the conflict for the first time — a day after doing the same thing during an encounter with Chinese president Xi Jinping.
The exchanges at the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation gathering in Samarkand are Russia’s most public recognitions yet of the disquiet in Beijing and New Delhi about the implications of the Ukraine invasion. Though Xi and Modi have both attempted to remain neutral on Ukraine, their strong ties with Russia are crucial to Putin’s attempt to show Moscow remains a major player on the world stage. Putin’s new deference to Modi and Xi’s concerns about the war in Ukraine highlight how Moscow has become increasingly dependent on their willingness to buy its exports after western nations imposed sanctions on Russia.
“I know today’s era is not an era of war and we have talked to you many times over the phone on the subject,” Modi told Putin in remarks published by India’s foreign ministry. India’s prime minister added that democracy, diplomacy and dialogue kept the world together.
https://www.ft.com/content/d0ac0361-c10 ... 20f9f92233
SuperMan9999 wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:^ Russia hasn't even faced the best NATO has to offer -
Leopards and Abrams
F15s, 16s, 22s and their suite of armaments
B2s, B52s, B1B Lancers
HIMARS with ATCMS
Patriot Missiles
Tomahawks
Russia really only has its nuclear deterrence, but apart from that they are the proverbial Gucci wearing poor man.
Yup and the weapons NATO donated to Ukraine are actually from the 90's and yet is light years ahead of any modern equipment Russia has. Putin knows he is ruling a dying Kleptocracy while Ukraine is a thriving technological Democracy, it's one of the reasons he destroyed the Antonov 225 Mira out of pure spite.
Russia cannot manufacture anything but junk, all they know about is lies and corruption they are the embodiment of nihilism. This war is also an espionage / information war, the CIA has stated publicly that they are behind every military strategic move that The Ukraine makes. This has Putin sheiting himself because he understands well just how powerful the CIA actually is.
His Nukes are worthless thanks to Mutually Assured Destruction and it's not even mutual, NATO has air defense systems to shoot down Russian nukes that is such top secret that no one even knows about which is why Trump stole all the classified nuclear documents to pass it onto his buddy, the only one that is going to be wiped out in any nuclear war is Putin and his failed state and he knows this all too well, the world now knows he is a bluffer he has been humiliated and he has no answer.
Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:anybody know how much arms ukraine sponsor in this war?
Why would Ukraine need to sponsor arms. They are literally at war.
matr1x wrote:SuperMan9999 wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:^ Russia hasn't even faced the best NATO has to offer -
Leopards and Abrams
F15s, 16s, 22s and their suite of armaments
B2s, B52s, B1B Lancers
HIMARS with ATCMS
Patriot Missiles
Tomahawks
Russia really only has its nuclear deterrence, but apart from that they are the proverbial Gucci wearing poor man.
Yup and the weapons NATO donated to Ukraine are actually from the 90's and yet is light years ahead of any modern equipment Russia has. Putin knows he is ruling a dying Kleptocracy while Ukraine is a thriving technological Democracy, it's one of the reasons he destroyed the Antonov 225 Mira out of pure spite.
Russia cannot manufacture anything but junk, all they know about is lies and corruption they are the embodiment of nihilism. This war is also an espionage / information war, the CIA has stated publicly that they are behind every military strategic move that The Ukraine makes. This has Putin sheiting himself because he understands well just how powerful the CIA actually is.
His Nukes are worthless thanks to Mutually Assured Destruction and it's not even mutual, NATO has air defense systems to shoot down Russian nukes that is such top secret that no one even knows about which is why Trump stole all the classified nuclear documents to pass it onto his buddy, the only one that is going to be wiped out in any nuclear war is Putin and his failed state and he knows this all too well, the world now knows he is a bluffer he has been humiliated and he has no answer.
Highly doubt Trump stole nuclear documents.
There has been no mention of the papers. It was a sham
sMASH wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:anybody know how much arms ukraine sponsor in this war?
Why would Ukraine need to sponsor arms. They are literally at war.
when i battling pot hole, nobody doh sponsor me tire and ball joint... i hadda sort out my issues my self.
i jess wah kno, if ukraine was doing it alone, how long ago would this have been over...
matr1x wrote:America invades countries....no on bats an eye.
Just saying
De Dragon wrote:sMASH wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:anybody know how much arms ukraine sponsor in this war?
Why would Ukraine need to sponsor arms. They are literally at war.
when i battling pot hole, nobody doh sponsor me tire and ball joint... i hadda sort out my issues my self.
i jess wah kno, if ukraine was doing it alone, how long ago would this have been over...
That's why you form alliances, so you don't have to go it alone, and very likely have lost already.
Dizzy28 wrote:Your friend jump in a latrine would you?matr1x wrote:America invades countries....no on bats an eye.
Just saying
sMASH wrote:De Dragon wrote:sMASH wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:sMASH wrote:anybody know how much arms ukraine sponsor in this war?
Why would Ukraine need to sponsor arms. They are literally at war.
when i battling pot hole, nobody doh sponsor me tire and ball joint... i hadda sort out my issues my self.
i jess wah kno, if ukraine was doing it alone, how long ago would this have been over...
That's why you form alliances, so you don't have to go it alone, and very likely have lost already.
soo, they should have attempted to join NATO a longgg time ago, since at least 2014. look sweden and finland gt in record time.
or was ukraine just convenient... like an political condom, for usa to deal with russia
Venezuelans taking back what was once theirs.matr1x wrote:Dizzy28 wrote:Your friend jump in a latrine would you?matr1x wrote:America invades countries....no on bats an eye.
Just saying
Russia just taking back what was once theirs
I'm still waiting to see:sMASH wrote:^^ london
"london"
still waiting to see how the sanctions making russia economy crumble.
and as gud as europe is without russian gas, still seeing reports of people gathering fire wood... but hey, europe is gonna be just fine..... sweet summer child.
adnj wrote:I'm still waiting to see:sMASH wrote:^^ london
"london"
still waiting to see how the sanctions making russia economy crumble.
and as gud as europe is without russian gas, still seeing reports of people gathering fire wood... but hey, europe is gonna be just fine..... sweet summer child.
Russia take Kyiv.
Zelensky lose popularity
Ukraine to surrender
Sweden and Finland to vote "no" on joining NATO
Try harder.
You seem as though you had money riding on a quick Russian victory.sMASH wrote:
is allyuh that says that russia wanted to take kyiv. even when they was attacking it, we was saying that wasnt their objective to take, and that was just a diversion to establish them selves better in the eastern regions. so said so done.
elensky will not loose popularity vote cause america need him to keep the anti russia flag flying. as long as that keep on, the never ending war and war spending will fulfill it self.
ukraine NEEDS to surrender. but it wouldnt cause its just a puppet with an american hand up its arse keeping up a losing fite.
who ever said sweden and finland would say not to joining nato? its not ideal for russia, but just cause u dont like sumting, does not make it automatically impossible.
u all just made up ur own assumptions on russian goals and acting surprised that they didnt achive them.
the only thig russia should do, is just cut all gas to europe, cause they keep saying russian gas is evil but keep on sucking it in.
if u dont want it, stop taking it from allllll now.
sMASH wrote:the pope dont like the proxy war. prolly cause he dont have shares in ratheon and northrup grumen (sp).
the more the war going on, is the more the american and european peons going to feel it in their pockets.
a lot of old europeans going to freeze to death this winter.... literally freeze to death.
i live a very rudimentary life. i good with common fowl and provision.
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