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Redman wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:Sad to hear about the sewer issue they have....... but that's no excuse for disrupting the lives of thousands of people who were stuck on the highway this morning.
Why not?
We all entitled to reach our representatives in the most effective way possible.
If it is that the people have not gotten a response...they flicking right.
Westmoorings does call the politicians to heel in their own way.
If they were treating the people properly this wouldnt be happening.
pugboy wrote:blocking road does get results
DTAC wrote:Redman wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:Sad to hear about the sewer issue they have....... but that's no excuse for disrupting the lives of thousands of people who were stuck on the highway this morning.
Why not?
We all entitled to reach our representatives in the most effective way possible.
If it is that the people have not gotten a response...they flicking right.
Westmoorings does call the politicians to heel in their own way.
If they were treating the people properly this wouldnt be happening.
Agreed, but is it not also true that, even with raw sewage literally flowing through their streets, if an election was called tomorrow they would vote PNM without a moments hesitation.
Redman wrote:DTAC wrote:Redman wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:Sad to hear about the sewer issue they have....... but that's no excuse for disrupting the lives of thousands of people who were stuck on the highway this morning.
Why not?
We all entitled to reach our representatives in the most effective way possible.
If it is that the people have not gotten a response...they flicking right.
Westmoorings does call the politicians to heel in their own way.
If they were treating the people properly this wouldnt be happening.
Agreed, but is it not also true that, even with raw sewage literally flowing through their streets, if an election was called tomorrow they would vote PNM without a moments hesitation.
That's also their choice.
Don't YOU make the same choices in your preferred way?
They have the same rights as all of us
DTAC wrote:Redman wrote:DTAC wrote:Redman wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:Sad to hear about the sewer issue they have....... but that's no excuse for disrupting the lives of thousands of people who were stuck on the highway this morning.
Why not?
We all entitled to reach our representatives in the most effective way possible.
If it is that the people have not gotten a response...they flicking right.
Westmoorings does call the politicians to heel in their own way.
If they were treating the people properly this wouldnt be happening.
Agreed, but is it not also true that, even with raw sewage literally flowing through their streets, if an election was called tomorrow they would vote PNM without a moments hesitation.
That's also their choice.
Don't YOU make the same choices in your preferred way?
They have the same rights as all of us
The bigger underlying problem is that the very people they blindly follow at the ballot box deliberately shortchange them for that very reason. They will blindly vote for them no matter what.
So blocking a highway is a pointless exercise. Listen to the man in the video, polite, articulate at explaining the situation. The people of Beetham should put him up as an alternative/independent candidate for their region, not blindly vote for their PNM "representative" every chance they get with decade after decade of utter neglect.
Take a leaf out of Tobago's book. Or keep voting party and take sewage.
mero wrote:Seen and experienced quite often in this country that only way to get action is with wajang behavior and make out scene. As an employer, consumer, customer and citizen.
Beetham ppl just viewed as less than citizens by the majority of us so whatever happen to them happen to them.
See how fast Wasa send out they letter?
Banana Republic 101
pioneer5220 wrote:Disappointed by the lack of empathy here on this forum, you folks do realize that all of these issues are a result of slavery and colonialism right? millions of people were kidnapped from their homeland, had their identity and culture wiped out and enslaved then left to rot and neglected by society, this is why we have the situation today with Beetham and Laventille, many of times their concerns are legitimate, regardless of how uneducated they appear to be.
Whose fault is it that they jump up naked with bedsheet and bathtowel falling down? it is the white colonizers to blame.
Encourage them to stop robbing peopleMaxPower wrote:Friends,
How can we help our Beetham brothers and sisters?
Redman wrote:Everybody loves democracy until it interrupts their routine or offends their sensibilities.
Then those lessers should do this or that or the other.
You want the incumbent to perform?
Get an opposition that nipping at their heels
Have a realistic third party....
The beetham is a symptom...not the problem
Les Bain wrote:nick639v2 wrote:pugboy wrote:yeah need that sector of society to join the forumLes Bain wrote:Anybody know why? Any forum Beethamites?
For ppl to get rob down on the forum too?? We good.. next thing men posts get hijack and bullet down
Last time I made a similar statement about Sea Lots, one of them PM me and called me a bottom.
So watch yuhself.
Phone Surgeon wrote:I wonder if they know that when proper drainage and sewage works are completed for Beetham that they're all being moved out to hdc complexes for the government to use and sell that prime real estate they occupy
redmanjp wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:I wonder if they know that when proper drainage and sewage works are completed for Beetham that they're all being moved out to hdc complexes for the government to use and sell that prime real estate they occupy
is the govt going to change the name Beetham? that has a negative stigma in most people's minds including employers
Call it Wonderland, dey will ruin whatever name it gets changed to.Guntas gotta guntredmanjp wrote:Phone Surgeon wrote:I wonder if they know that when proper drainage and sewage works are completed for Beetham that they're all being moved out to hdc complexes for the government to use and sell that prime real estate they occupy
is the govt going to change the name Beetham? that has a negative stigma in most people's minds including employers
The_Honourable wrote:Redman wrote:Everybody loves democracy until it interrupts their routine or offends their sensibilities.
Then those lessers should do this or that or the other.
You want the incumbent to perform?
Get an opposition that nipping at their heels
Have a realistic third party....
The beetham is a symptom...not the problem
This is where Zoom's point comes in... the opposition is not important at this stage.
To get proper representation, they have to be the ones nipping at the MP, PM and party heels. Their have been third parties in the past but they choose to vote for the status quo out of loyalty thinking that the party understands their plight.
Beethamites and others need to stop with the blind loyalty and giving up their vote for virtually nothing. Demand more with the threat of their vote going to another party and you will see how quickly Hinds and Co will get their act together. They have to make that decision for themselves otherwise it will be another 60 years of the same old.
Redman wrote:The_Honourable wrote:Redman wrote:Everybody loves democracy until it interrupts their routine or offends their sensibilities.
Then those lessers should do this or that or the other.
You want the incumbent to perform?
Get an opposition that nipping at their heels
Have a realistic third party....
The beetham is a symptom...not the problem
This is where Zoom's point comes in... the opposition is not important at this stage.
To get proper representation, they have to be the ones nipping at the MP, PM and party heels. Their have been third parties in the past but they choose to vote for the status quo out of loyalty thinking that the party understands their plight.
Beethamites and others need to stop with the blind loyalty and giving up their vote for virtually nothing. Demand more with the threat of their vote going to another party and you will see how quickly Hinds and Co will get their act together. They have to make that decision for themselves otherwise it will be another 60 years of the same old.
Well I disagree.
With the opposition part.
In whatever you do there some realities:
If you don't measure it...you can't manage it.
If there isn't competition we get substandard service....arguably demonstrated by FCB bs WASA..FCB has to compete.
A vibrant opposition would be.pushing best practice on policy, leading discussions with people in and out of their communities.
Like ZR demonstrates what we have is pleasure at the other sides suffering because we disagree on politics....and a pass through before elections.
Engaged opposition would begin to make all seats marginal.
Engaged opposition would show in a sensible manner what the govt is ballzing up.
Engaged opposition is a 5 year work to convince people that you have the institutional and HR components to run govt responsibly
Engaged opposition would be viewed as a real alternative...not just to.make bachanal in Parliament
It's 2022 most of that is research communication and consistency.
Redman wrote:DTAC wrote:Redman wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:Sad to hear about the sewer issue they have....... but that's no excuse for disrupting the lives of thousands of people who were stuck on the highway this morning.
Why not?
We all entitled to reach our representatives in the most effective way possible.
If it is that the people have not gotten a response...they flicking right.
Westmoorings does call the politicians to heel in their own way.
If they were treating the people properly this wouldnt be happening.
Agreed, but is it not also true that, even with raw sewage literally flowing through their streets, if an election was called tomorrow they would vote PNM without a moments hesitation.
That's also their choice.
Don't YOU make the same choices in your preferred way?
They have the same rights as all of us
Westmoorings summons the PM like a little house NegroDe Dragon wrote:Redman wrote:DTAC wrote:Redman wrote:Country_Bookie wrote:Sad to hear about the sewer issue they have....... but that's no excuse for disrupting the lives of thousands of people who were stuck on the highway this morning.
Why not?
We all entitled to reach our representatives in the most effective way possible.
If it is that the people have not gotten a response...they flicking right.
Westmoorings does call the politicians to heel in their own way.
If they were treating the people properly this wouldnt be happening.
Agreed, but is it not also true that, even with raw sewage literally flowing through their streets, if an election was called tomorrow they would vote PNM without a moments hesitation.
That's also their choice.
Don't YOU make the same choices in your preferred way?
They have the same rights as all of us
So you also sanction the billing of them for the costs to repair said road? The threats of imprisonment? The unlawful obtaining of footage to identify culprits? If not, then you're just being a troll, and a stupid cause troll at that. If one of them had damaged or killed someone, would you say "dais demockracee!" Pretty sure not.
Real democracy is EQUAL treatment, so fack what Westmoorings does.
Gonzales said next two monthsMmoney607 wrote:The sewer fix yet? No more protests?
hover11 wrote:Gonzales said next two monthsMmoney607 wrote:The sewer fix yet? No more protests?
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