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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby toyolink » October 20th, 2021, 11:16 am

Its really quite interesting to observe how the market responds to a new auto option.
Clearly at this stage, our domestic market is going to try different possibilities and there would be winners and losers.
I myself has long developed a position to buy in to new tech. solutions and similar at a more mature stage when the operational and financial issues become proven in our circumstances.
Unfortunately, our learning curve tends to be much longer than the more developed countries.
My support for the green initiative must be governed by my reality.

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby Ben_spanna » October 20th, 2021, 11:22 am

Curious , how would the licensing office treat a vehicle if someone locally were to convert their gasoline to a Full Electric setup?
Would it be allowed given all the original drive train , steering and suspension were kept in tact??? or do you think they would disallow the vehicle and refuse to pass an inspection?

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby VII » October 20th, 2021, 11:25 am

What rain have to do with that more than with an ordinary bike ? You saying elecrtic powered things can't get wet? :?

Or you saying riding any bike in the rain is dangerous and will get you wet ? :idea:


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2WNBoost wrote:^^ An electric motorbike is an intriguing option
Only when it does not rain

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby Ben_spanna » October 20th, 2021, 11:28 am

Cuba has quite a number of those electric scooters and bikes.. its fantastic, problem is when they lane split you DO NOT hear them, so alot of times they get killed! But it is a great option!

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby zoom rader » October 20th, 2021, 11:29 am

VII wrote:What rain have to do with that more than with an ordinary bike ? You saying elecrtic powered things can't get wet? :?

Or you saying riding any bike in the rain is dangerous and will get you wet ? :idea:


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2WNBoost wrote:^^ An electric motorbike is an intriguing option
Only when it does not rain
Some bikers will not ride in the rain.
If a bike is your only means of travel then you have to consider when rains falls while trying to get to work.

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » October 22nd, 2021, 12:27 pm

Rivian R1T electric pickup truck


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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby wing » October 22nd, 2021, 3:21 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:Rivian R1T electric pickup truck

Kart? Lithium mafia? Big oil? Red government idiot? ......
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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » October 22nd, 2021, 10:59 pm

T&T Bureau of Standards is having a webinar on electric vehicles in the Latin American region - T&T included

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby gastly369 » October 24th, 2021, 11:43 am





Saw SS hinted ev6... Idk testing waters to see demand or are they really bringing it...

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby timothymcdavid » November 4th, 2021, 10:35 am

Jump high jump low ... or run as fast as you can when it comes to EV's the Chinese run things.


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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby timothymcdavid » November 17th, 2021, 12:38 pm

Damn Toyota looking good.


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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby Appl3 » December 4th, 2021, 12:21 am

All do respect, this is not accurate. Electric cars are barely profitable for car makers. CEOs have been against the regulations. They only make electric cars to meet these regulations. It will be profitable in the future, but currently the margin on ICE vehicles are much higher. Also, electric cars become cleaner than ICE vehicles well within their lifetime. Including lithium mining and charging efficiency. In the US, where they use mostly coal and natural gas, the breakeven point is 13,500 miles. Regardless, mass produced electric cars are in their infancy. Battery tech is improving and soon will not be reliant on lithium. The fact that electric cars are already cleaner the ICE vehicles with has had over 100 years of efficiency improvements tell us what we need to know. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 021-06-29/
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VII wrote:The thing is, this is the direction the world is going, like it or not, our petty issues won't make a difference, all major manufacturers will only have electric vehicles in years to come and major countries have set as close as 2030 as the dealine for electric only new car sales, that's the bigger picture, realize no one is asking what T&T thinks .

Getting a ICE engine car would be like trying to get a manual car now, very few choices. For the purists maybe only a few top of the line bespoke exotics would be available and out of the reach of most, as everything else market forces and other market dynamics will dictate the prices supply etc going forward and prices are set to reduce, and usability, durability, capacity, overall performance etc will increase, just think mobile phones and computers, look at what they cost in the early stages, they were out of the reach of most, just look at the vast difference in their packaging capability and supporting infrastructure then and now.,

I'm sure the switch from animal powered carts to petrol was met with similar challenges and resistance. There's still a concrete horse watering trauf in Laventille btw, right outside Success Composite .

So what we prefer and what we think really isn't relevant in the middle to long term, adapt or be prepared to water your horse.
The Electric vehicle has been here over a 100 years.

They could not find a way to sell it and then they found greenhouse gases as a way to sell it.

What they not telling you is that process to manufacture the kart produces more greenhouse gases and then a hazard of waste disposal.

Big business don't care about greenhouse gases , your health or pollution. All that matters is their profits.

It's a con job for your money

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby zoom rader » December 4th, 2021, 7:00 am

Appl3 wrote:All do respect, this is not accurate. Electric cars are barely profitable for car makers. CEOs have been against the regulations. They only make electric cars to meet these regulations. It will be profitable in the future, but currently the margin on ICE vehicles are much higher. Also, electric cars become cleaner than ICE vehicles well within their lifetime. Including lithium mining and charging efficiency. In the US, where they use mostly coal and natural gas, the breakeven point is 13,500 miles. Regardless, mass produced electric cars are in their infancy. Battery tech is improving and soon will not be reliant on lithium. The fact that electric cars are already cleaner the ICE vehicles with has had over 100 years of efficiency improvements tell us what we need to know. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos- ... 021-06-29/
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VII wrote:The thing is, this is the direction the world is going, like it or not, our petty issues won't make a difference, all major manufacturers will only have electric vehicles in years to come and major countries have set as close as 2030 as the dealine for electric only new car sales, that's the bigger picture, realize no one is asking what T&T thinks .

Getting a ICE engine car would be like trying to get a manual car now, very few choices. For the purists maybe only a few top of the line bespoke exotics would be available and out of the reach of most, as everything else market forces and other market dynamics will dictate the prices supply etc going forward and prices are set to reduce, and usability, durability, capacity, overall performance etc will increase, just think mobile phones and computers, look at what they cost in the early stages, they were out of the reach of most, just look at the vast difference in their packaging capability and supporting infrastructure then and now.,

I'm sure the switch from animal powered carts to petrol was met with similar challenges and resistance. There's still a concrete horse watering trauf in Laventille btw, right outside Success Composite .

So what we prefer and what we think really isn't relevant in the middle to long term, adapt or be prepared to water your horse.
The Electric vehicle has been here over a 100 years.

They could not find a way to sell it and then they found greenhouse gases as a way to sell it.

What they not telling you is that process to manufacture the kart produces more greenhouse gases and then a hazard of waste disposal.

Big business don't care about greenhouse gases , your health or pollution. All that matters is their profits.

It's a con job for your money
Karts may be cleaned but that's just the karts.

The process to make them and mining of lithium batteries offsets the benefits of green house gasses.

If the world really cares about green house gasses then they should look in to Cows and the aviation industry .

Then again the world every couple of thousand years goes into a cycle of global warming.

Global warming has been here since the earth was formed .

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » December 7th, 2021, 1:23 am

TTT - With Government’s recent decision to remove tax breaks on the importation of battery-powered vehicles, there’s been much talk about how the move will bear fruit locally.



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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby agent007 » December 7th, 2021, 10:59 am

Can't wait to buy a $150k brand new Leaf come January.

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby j.o.e » December 7th, 2021, 12:05 pm

Which new car dealers lining up cars for this ? Would have to be in the pipeline already

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby agent007 » December 7th, 2021, 12:26 pm

Lol with this blasted well orchestrated chip shortage, I really dunno tbh. I just want a Leaf so bad. I download all the English brochures and read up on that car. Oh well...

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby Ben_spanna » December 7th, 2021, 12:49 pm

Well MAssy will be bringing the full electric Chinese MG, i heard rumors that Kia will bring their Full Electric Niro, as for affordability that may be it, this case of tax breaks are really for the Volvos, Mercedes, Jaguars..Bmw and Audi E-trons all of which will probably be over the $600,00 price tag

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby agent007 » December 7th, 2021, 1:21 pm

MG = More Garbage and well Kia is basically no different. Sticking with small aspirations for a Leaf lol

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby PariaMan » December 7th, 2021, 3:51 pm

Find the leaf a bit on the ugly side
agent007 wrote:MG = More Garbage and well Kia is basically no different. Sticking with small aspirations for a Leaf lol

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby redmanjp » December 7th, 2021, 4:51 pm

Ben_spanna wrote:Well MAssy will be bringing the full electric Chinese MG, i heard rumors that Kia will bring their Full Electric Niro, as for affordability that may be it, this case of tax breaks are really for the Volvos, Mercedes, Jaguars..Bmw and Audi E-trons all of which will probably be over the $600,00 price tag


so is only the rich can save the planet then. they want the rest of us to continue as normal as i doh see them removing the tax on the cheaper hybrids.

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Re: No tax on electric vehicles in T&T

Postby j.o.e » December 7th, 2021, 5:38 pm

PariaMan wrote:Find the leaf a bit on the ugly side
agent007 wrote:MG = More Garbage and well Kia is basically no different. Sticking with small aspirations for a Leaf lol


It not bad. It’s not a beauty queen. Standard Nissan ugly to me. Just weirder proportions

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