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88sins wrote:Nah, let them feel the English are all nice and happy go lucky.
They eh kno, black people that born there often get called West Indian as an insult, and that asians and indians are simply tolerated, not truly accepted.
Them people perfected the art of invisible racism. They will smile with your, speak politely and pleasantly, because by law they can face consequences if they do otherwise. And they will screw you as much as they can legally get away with.
But to say you not white and they want and embrace you for you being you and that's all? That not happening unless it serves their purpose in some way or another.
Redress10 wrote:88sins wrote:Nah, let them feel the English are all nice and happy go lucky.
They eh kno, black people that born there often get called West Indian as an insult, and that asians and indians are simply tolerated, not truly accepted.
Them people perfected the art of invisible racism. They will smile with your, speak politely and pleasantly, because by law they can face consequences if they do otherwise. And they will screw you as much as they can legally get away with.
But to say you not white and they want and embrace you for you being you and that's all? That not happening unless it serves their purpose in some way or another.
Exactly it's more tolerance than respect. When I went to school the ones most likely to be bullied etc were the asians. It was sad to witness as it was blatant discrimination simply because kids were asians.
Redress10 wrote:I'm mixed.
Redress10 wrote:Ppl have this myth about the British empire. It didn't benefit ppl who looked like you. The british have always been a very classist society so even amongst white people there was a class hierarchy. The most educated,articulate and connected non white person would still be viewed beneath the lowest common white person. Your money and status might grant you access but never respect.
Most colonies never experienced aristocracy. The aristocracy doesn't even mingle with the regular peeps in the UK etc. Most whites who came here to oversee plantations were commoners and even criminals. Who served their time in the colonies instead of the mainland. They were more or less "banished". A rich plantation owner never even saw his plantation in real life. It was a distant investment.
During colonisation the goal was extraction. It was never about development so if they needed to build roads etc they would build the road from the airport directly to the settlement where they lived or the road was built from the processing plant to the port for export. There was no development. Hospitals,schools,banks etc were built to meet white demand for these things. If you tried to riot then they would send the army/navy etc
Redress10 wrote:FrankChag wrote:We're in the longrun now (60yrs), soo, was it worth it? Independence from GB. And being a Republic...
Made a handful of people very wealthy over the decades, but is the population and the economy better or worse than if we didn't become independant/republic? Thinking of Barbados, Canada, BVI, Falklands..
Imagine being a UK citizen vs. being a TT citizen.
Pound notes...
Was it really worth it?
Asking objectively. I don't know the answer.
Someone (knowledgable) should objectively answer this question for the 60th...
Independence was a con to put state resources in the hands of a few under the guise of the "State". Williams then orchestrated the political system to benefit the leader and friends/family of the leader. Most wealthy ppl in TT get wealthy based on political connections. That stifles innovation and essentially keeps a country back. The cream needs to rise to the top. Watch Singapore etc.
There was never any plan for development. The goal was to own state resources that is why everything was/still is nationalised. To create dependency syndrome within the country. We are essentially living within a socialist state it's just marketed to use differently.
Being a UK citizen has no real benefit unless you are white, upper class and living on the mainland UK. If you are from a colonial outpost then your life isn't viewed as equal to those back in the UK. You may simply have been living in the caribbean and just have to settle for being a bell boy or chamber maid as those would be the roles offered to you because of "tourism". The caribbean outposts are viewed as nothing more than places for white tourists to come and put their legs up on "holiday". It's not a place they care to develop tbh. They are already focused on the mainland.
Remember when disaster hit a dutch island how the dutch government made sure and evacuated all of the white islanders first? They also sent the military to protect the white owner's assets from looting etc.
That's the reality of colonial life.
Redress10 wrote:88sins wrote:Nah, let them feel the English are all nice and happy go lucky.
They eh kno, black people that born there often get called West Indian as an insult, and that asians and indians are simply tolerated, not truly accepted.
Them people perfected the art of invisible racism. They will smile with your, speak politely and pleasantly, because by law they can face consequences if they do otherwise. And they will screw you as much as they can legally get away with.
But to say you not white and they want and embrace you for you being you and that's all? That not happening unless it serves their purpose in some way or another.
Exactly it's more tolerance than respect. When I went to school the ones most likely to be bullied etc were the asians. It was sad to witness as it was blatant discrimination simply because kids were asians. By asian I don't mean chinese, korean etc
Prince Harry also famously called an indian fella a "paki" I believe. That is strictly to increase Britain's access to India again. Need to remember that India and Russia are improving relations so there is also that.
Only seen a few empire of dust videos, I have to watch it. The chinee man doesn't have ill intent and talking truth but the congos dont want to hear it. The translator definately above average and know what has to happen but it will never be thought of much less realized due to his peoples mindest.SuperiorMan wrote:What you fellas think of this video?
SuperiorMan wrote:What you fellas think of this video?
Anywhere in the world that low class/low income COLORED OR COLORED PPL could go and be waited on is modern day slavery. That's the sort of "tourism" these countries like to promote. It have no money in that. Our tourism model still based off the ideals of colonialism.
Redress10 wrote:Service tourism shouldn't even be in the discussion when it comes to diversification. Unless is high end tourism such as sports tourism like formula 1 etc then it's just modern day slavery.
Anywhere in the world that low class/low income whites could go and be waited on is modern day slavery. That's the sort of "tourism" these countries like to promote. It have no money in that. Our tourism model still based off the ideals of colonialism.
If you want to emulate tourism then you need to start looking at places such as Croatia ,Mykonos, st Barts etc
Mmoney607 wrote:SuperiorMan wrote:What you fellas think of this video?
Perfectly sums up pnm people. They vex when the bank make a huge profit but drinking carib and eating KFC everyday
Ripe Chenette wrote:Only seen a few empire of dust videos, I have to watch it. The chinee man doesn't have ill intent and talking truth but the congos dont want to hear it. The translator definately above average and know what has to happen but it will never be thought of much less realized due to his peoples mindest.SuperiorMan wrote:What you fellas think of this video?
Same thing happening down here with afros and even lower indos, you tell them what is the problem and why we are in this position but is only a set a sheit talk about this and that or whitey/victim mindset in play if they even acknowledge those words.
Rovin wrote:i jes aksin, if d word whites were removed & substituted with low class/low income COLORED OR COLORED PPL , wud d same suggestion be applied here ? ....Anywhere in the world that low class/low income COLORED OR COLORED PPL could go and be waited on is modern day slavery. That's the sort of "tourism" these countries like to promote. It have no money in that. Our tourism model still based off the ideals of colonialism.Redress10 wrote:Service tourism shouldn't even be in the discussion when it comes to diversification. Unless is high end tourism such as sports tourism like formula 1 etc then it's just modern day slavery.
Anywhere in the world that low class/low income whites could go and be waited on is modern day slavery. That's the sort of "tourism" these countries like to promote. It have no money in that. Our tourism model still based off the ideals of colonialism.
If you want to emulate tourism then you need to start looking at places such as Croatia ,Mykonos, st Barts etc
I keep saying that the Caribbean countries need a visa system.As a region, our border controls are sheit.Redress10 wrote:Rovin wrote:i jes aksin, if d word whites were removed & substituted with low class/low income COLORED OR COLORED PPL , wud d same suggestion be applied here ? ....Anywhere in the world that low class/low income COLORED OR COLORED PPL could go and be waited on is modern day slavery. That's the sort of "tourism" these countries like to promote. It have no money in that. Our tourism model still based off the ideals of colonialism.Redress10 wrote:Service tourism shouldn't even be in the discussion when it comes to diversification. Unless is high end tourism such as sports tourism like formula 1 etc then it's just modern day slavery.
Anywhere in the world that low class/low income whites could go and be waited on is modern day slavery. That's the sort of "tourism" these countries like to promote. It have no money in that. Our tourism model still based off the ideals of colonialism.
If you want to emulate tourism then you need to start looking at places such as Croatia ,Mykonos, st Barts etc
No because the very notion of that form of tourism is rooted in colonialism and slavery. The other way simply won't exist. Where would "coloured" people go in the world to be waited on by whites?
A white working class family goes on holiday to a resort to the developed world because their foreign exchange advantages etc allow it. Compare that to the type of tourism their country tries to retain and you would see the difference. In order to be given a visa to travel to europe etc you need to show healthy bank statements and sufficient ties to your home country. That basically ensures that their tourism product remains high end and comes at a high price whether it is luxury goods shopping or even high end hotel stays. That aint servitude my G.
Redress10 wrote:Rovin wrote:i jes aksin, if d word whites were removed & substituted with low class/low income COLORED OR COLORED PPL , wud d same suggestion be applied here ? ....Anywhere in the world that low class/low income COLORED OR COLORED PPL could go and be waited on is modern day slavery. That's the sort of "tourism" these countries like to promote. It have no money in that. Our tourism model still based off the ideals of colonialism.Redress10 wrote:Service tourism shouldn't even be in the discussion when it comes to diversification. Unless is high end tourism such as sports tourism like formula 1 etc then it's just modern day slavery.
Anywhere in the world that low class/low income whites could go and be waited on is modern day slavery. That's the sort of "tourism" these countries like to promote. It have no money in that. Our tourism model still based off the ideals of colonialism.
If you want to emulate tourism then you need to start looking at places such as Croatia ,Mykonos, st Barts etc
No because the very notion of that form of tourism is rooted in colonialism and slavery. The other way simply won't exist. Where would "coloured" people go in the world to be waited on by whites?
A white working class family goes on holiday to a resort to the developed world because their foreign exchange advantages etc allow it. Compare that to the type of tourism their country tries to retain and you would see the difference. In order to be given a visa to travel to europe etc you need to show healthy bank statements and sufficient ties to your home country. That basically ensures that their tourism product remains high end and comes at a high price whether it is luxury goods shopping or even high end hotel stays. That aint servitude my G.
zoom rader wrote:But we now an islands of waiters and chambermaids .VexXx Dogg wrote:timelapse wrote:On a more serious note, to answer your question.
Trinidad was better economically under the British rule, but mostly beneficial to the British.Locals got the scraps, unless you had connections or a good business sense (Indos, Chinese and Syrians)
The economic system globally was stacked in favour of the British.They created their own markets and ruled with force.Costs were minimized due to exploitation of labour forces.
That sheit would never fly today.
People doh remember that colonial oppression at all.
Most people woulda start working after primary school, a few made it to secondary school and only the elite$ got tertiary ed.
Top brass everywhere would have been non-native, and locals woulda play subservient/clerical/labour roles.
The rose-tinted lens, aye.
We went from industrial/trade schools to hotel schools to train chamber maids and waiters.
Red government has been pushing this hotel serving BS by bringing shady sandals hotel here.
This is to further enslave one group of people
No parent should be proud to say that their daughter a chamber maid and son is a waiter.
2,000 jobs available to nationals on Royal Caribbean Cruise Ships
Close to 2,000 T&T citizens will soon have a chance at employment with Royal Caribbean International as the Ministry of Tourism will sign a historic Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with Royal Caribbean International.
According to Tourism Minister Randall Mitchell the MOU will be signed during a ceremony at the Hilton Trinidad and Conference Centre .
https://www.guardian.co.tt/business/200 ... f325a5c39f
bamfo_dennis wrote:zoom rader wrote:But we now an islands of waiters and chambermaids .VexXx Dogg wrote:timelapse wrote:On a more serious note, to answer your question.
Trinidad was better economically under the British rule, but mostly beneficial to the British.Locals got the scraps, unless you had connections or a good business sense (Indos, Chinese and Syrians)
The economic system globally was stacked in favour of the British.They created their own markets and ruled with force.Costs were minimized due to exploitation of labour forces.
That sheit would never fly today.
People doh remember that colonial oppression at all.
Most people woulda start working after primary school, a few made it to secondary school and only the elite$ got tertiary ed.
Top brass everywhere would have been non-native, and locals woulda play subservient/clerical/labour roles.
The rose-tinted lens, aye.
We went from industrial/trade schools to hotel schools to train chamber maids and waiters.
Red government has been pushing this hotel serving BS by bringing shady sandals hotel here.
This is to further enslave one group of people
No parent should be proud to say that their daughter a chamber maid and son is a waiter.
All who duz tink zoomradar duz lie n talk sheit. look d pnm moving with d plan........lay off all d skill worker from petrotrin buss caroni n mash up anythin with produciton......pnm have d plan rite vote 4 dem again boy2,000 jobs available to nationals on Royal Caribbean Cruise Ships
Close to 2,000 T&T citizens will soon have a chance at employment with Royal Caribbean International as the Ministry of Tourism will sign a historic Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with Royal Caribbean International.
According to Tourism Minister Randall Mitchell the MOU will be signed during a ceremony at the Hilton Trinidad and Conference Centre .
https://www.guardian.co.tt/business/200 ... f325a5c39f
ruffneck_12 wrote:yeah yeah yeah
But if the British ruled us today, cancel culture would ensure that they shared their wealth with us.
Our business would be inna gear
Injuns caught the British out .Blaze d Chalice wrote:ruffneck_12 wrote:yeah yeah yeah
But if the British ruled us today, cancel culture would ensure that they shared their wealth with us.
Our business would be inna gear
This would actually be a good approach. Just cry racism for anything you don't agree with.
But Indian people are known to lick USA/UK buttom, they would sit by and let UK do the same things that PNM doing and lap it up eagerly while asking for more taxes and higher gas prices.
zoom rader wrote:Injuns caught the British out .Blaze d Chalice wrote:ruffneck_12 wrote:yeah yeah yeah
But if the British ruled us today, cancel culture would ensure that they shared their wealth with us.
Our business would be inna gear
This would actually be a good approach. Just cry racism for anything you don't agree with.
But Indian people are known to lick USA/UK buttom, they would sit by and let UK do the same things that PNM doing and lap it up eagerly while asking for more taxes and higher gas prices.
Look who's running the British government.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... tive-party
BraminsRedress10 wrote:zoom rader wrote:Injuns caught the British out .Blaze d Chalice wrote:ruffneck_12 wrote:yeah yeah yeah
But if the British ruled us today, cancel culture would ensure that they shared their wealth with us.
Our business would be inna gear
This would actually be a good approach. Just cry racism for anything you don't agree with.
But Indian people are known to lick USA/UK buttom, they would sit by and let UK do the same things that PNM doing and lap it up eagerly while asking for more taxes and higher gas prices.
Look who's running the British government.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... tive-party
Zoom, those indos are the equivalent of house n... they wouldn't hesitate to sell or enslave their fellow indians for a quick buck.
zoom rader wrote:BraminsRedress10 wrote:zoom rader wrote:Injuns caught the British out .Blaze d Chalice wrote:ruffneck_12 wrote:yeah yeah yeah
But if the British ruled us today, cancel culture would ensure that they shared their wealth with us.
Our business would be inna gear
This would actually be a good approach. Just cry racism for anything you don't agree with.
But Indian people are known to lick USA/UK buttom, they would sit by and let UK do the same things that PNM doing and lap it up eagerly while asking for more taxes and higher gas prices.
Look who's running the British government.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... tive-party
Zoom, those indos are the equivalent of house n... they wouldn't hesitate to sell or enslave their fellow indians for a quick buck.
matr1x wrote:No lie, I seen afro trini coworkers run to service white customers faster than warp speed
Injun time nowSuperiorMan wrote:Chancellor of the Exchequer Rishi Sunak
what a name.
Hopefully he takes over from Boris soon after and becomes PM.
Truly a good role model for young children.
SuperiorMan wrote:Chancellor of the Exchequer Rishi Sunak
what a name.
Hopefully he takes over from Boris soon after and becomes PM.
Truly a good role model for young children.
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