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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby ed360123 » October 23rd, 2021, 9:40 pm

eitech wrote:
ed360123 wrote:And since y'all couldn't bother to use Google. Here's the official transcript.

Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/09/10/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-jen-psaki-september-10-2021/
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Lol dbu na. Yuh marked safe from covid
Ok then, since this is the third time you've said this. Explain what you mean by 'marked'.

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Postby eitech » October 23rd, 2021, 9:56 pm

ed360123 wrote:
eitech wrote:
ed360123 wrote:And since y'all couldn't bother to use Google. Here's the official transcript.

Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/09/10/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-jen-psaki-september-10-2021/
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Lol dbu na. Yuh marked safe from covid
Ok then, since this is the third time you've said this. Explain what you mean by 'marked'.


What I will explain is the answer you deserve. So sensitive

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby ed360123 » October 23rd, 2021, 10:08 pm

eitech wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
eitech wrote:
ed360123 wrote:And since y'all couldn't bother to use Google. Here's the official transcript.

Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/09/10/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-jen-psaki-september-10-2021/
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Lol dbu na. Yuh marked safe from covid
Ok then, since this is the third time you've said this. Explain what you mean by 'marked'.


What I will explain is the answer you deserve. So sensitive

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The fact that you refuse to properly explain anything you say just shows you're talking out of your ass. Goodnight.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby eitech » October 23rd, 2021, 10:21 pm

ed360123 wrote:
eitech wrote:
ed360123 wrote:
eitech wrote:
ed360123 wrote:And since y'all couldn't bother to use Google. Here's the official transcript.

Source: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/press-briefings/2021/09/10/press-briefing-by-press-secretary-jen-psaki-september-10-2021/
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Lol dbu na. Yuh marked safe from covid
Ok then, since this is the third time you've said this. Explain what you mean by 'marked'.


What I will explain is the answer you deserve. So sensitive

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The fact that you refuse to properly explain anything you say just shows you're talking out of your ass. Goodnight.


I told you thanks for taking part in my survey. You persisted. Anyways goodnight marked dude hahahahah

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby adnj » October 24th, 2021, 8:11 am

As cases wane, COVID's next phase is predictability, experts say

... Almost every flu season in the past 10 years has been considered an epidemic — but the rate of infection and the deadliness of that seasonal virus has varied.

From 2010 to 2019, the seasonal flu infected between 9.3 million and 41 million each year, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Between 12,000 and 52,000 people died each year in that time period.

The flu killed from 0.05 percent and 0.17 percent of infected people a year, according to the CDC. By comparison, COVID’s mortality rate in the United States has been about 1.6 percent of people infected, according to Johns Hopkins University. The CDC has attributed more than 731,000 deaths to COVID-19 over 20 months. Between 2010 and 2019, about 342,000 deaths were attributed to flu.

But with COVID vaccines, the game changes, said Ross McKinney, the chief scientific officer for the Association of American Medical Colleges. Among vaccinated people, COVID’s mortality rate became about equal to flu, McKinney said.

That reduction to the threat of the virus could go a long way to making it seem more normal, he said.

“I think we’re going to be to where it’s like flu fairly soon,” McKinney said. “For vaccinated people, the impact is very much like flu. When we have a very large percentage of people vaccinated, which we hope eventually we do, it will feel like a flu epidemic. It will feel familiar.”...

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby hover11 » October 24th, 2021, 8:14 am

adnj wrote:As cases wane, COVID's next phase is predictability, experts say

... Almost every flu season in the past 10 years has been considered an epidemic — but the rate of infection and the deadliness of that seasonal virus has varied.

From 2010 to 2019, the seasonal flu infected between 9.3 million and 41 million each year, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Between 12,000 and 52,000 people died each year in that time period.

The flu killed from 0.05 percent and 0.17 percent of infected people a year, according to the CDC. By comparison, COVID’s mortality rate in the United States has been about 1.6 percent of people infected, according to Johns Hopkins University. The CDC has attributed more than 731,000 deaths to COVID-19 over 20 months. Between 2010 and 2019, about 342,000 deaths were attributed to flu.

But with COVID vaccines, the game changes, said Ross McKinney, the chief scientific officer for the Association of American Medical Colleges. Among vaccinated people, COVID’s mortality rate became about equal to flu, McKinney said.

That reduction to the threat of the virus could go a long way to making it seem more normal, he said.

“I think we’re going to be to where it’s like flu fairly soon,” McKinney said. “For vaccinated people, the impact is very much like flu. When we have a very large percentage of people vaccinated, which we hope eventually we do, it will feel like a flu epidemic. It will feel familiar.”...

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby DMan7 » October 24th, 2021, 8:15 am

Why is no one worldwide saying "We have to learn to live with this virus vaccinated or not."?

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby sMASH » October 24th, 2021, 8:52 am

When unvaxed die, the vaxed proportions go up. What's the issue???

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby adnj » October 24th, 2021, 9:01 am

sMASH wrote:When unvaxed die, the vaxed proportions go up. What's the issue???
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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby i_code_and_stuff » October 24th, 2021, 2:19 pm

drchaos wrote:
i_code_and_stuff wrote:
drchaos wrote:
i_code_and_stuff wrote:
sMASH wrote:If unvaxed, would rather die than take a jab, and vaxed can spread it still, why force people?
If ur unvaxed and get it, u die or gain immunity. U vaxed, and still spreading it.


hope ur still uttering this garbage when you break your leg and need hospital care and cant get it because everywhere filled to the brim with covid patients


This has not, is not and will not happen.
We have a parallel healthcare system.

If you don't understand the word parallel you can google it.


What do you think is going to happen if the facilities dedicated to covid are filled? Do you think the "regular" hospitals are going to deny covid patients? No, they will be forced to accept them, thus leading to the situation that i described. "parallel healthcare system" is nothing but a meaningless name in the face of outbreaks akin to those seen in states with low vaccination rates. you anti vax idiots are just incapable of understanding this because you've been largely shielded from the grim realities that other territories had to face. TT got lucky, but now I guess we'll wait and see if that luck holds out


Wow wow wow ... I'm not anti vax ... I have all my childhood vaccines plus I took a J&J.

I'm just anti-Moron and you seem to fall into that category.

We didn't get lucky we got hit as hard as we could get hit ... An were still freaking here.

So preach the Doom and Gloom brother ... the rest of us will be living it up.


You've been posting anti-vax and covid-denying bs for months, and constantly shifting goalposts whenever your arguments get dismantled, much like hover11. So you're either a better troll than him, or you're easily amongst the least intelligent people on this board.

We've had SoE and lockdowns for months when things were escalating, before Delta, and you saying we got hit as hard as we could get hit? are you so dense and ignorant that you don't even pay attention to what has happened in territories that have superior healthcare than us, with similar vaccination rates and similar levels of restrictions as we do right now? It's not rocket science.

Even though the global scientific conversation is no longer about herd immunity, but rather personal protection, it's simply ignorant to not acknowledge that our healthcare infrastructure will be in considerable danger in the coming weeks and months.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby hover11 » October 24th, 2021, 2:35 pm

i_code_and_stuff wrote:
drchaos wrote:
i_code_and_stuff wrote:
drchaos wrote:
i_code_and_stuff wrote:
sMASH wrote:If unvaxed, would rather die than take a jab, and vaxed can spread it still, why force people?
If ur unvaxed and get it, u die or gain immunity. U vaxed, and still spreading it.


hope ur still uttering this garbage when you break your leg and need hospital care and cant get it because everywhere filled to the brim with covid patients


This has not, is not and will not happen.
We have a parallel healthcare system.

If you don't understand the word parallel you can google it.


What do you think is going to happen if the facilities dedicated to covid are filled? Do you think the "regular" hospitals are going to deny covid patients? No, they will be forced to accept them, thus leading to the situation that i described. "parallel healthcare system" is nothing but a meaningless name in the face of outbreaks akin to those seen in states with low vaccination rates. you anti vax idiots are just incapable of understanding this because you've been largely shielded from the grim realities that other territories had to face. TT got lucky, but now I guess we'll wait and see if that luck holds out


Wow wow wow ... I'm not anti vax ... I have all my childhood vaccines plus I took a J&J.

I'm just anti-Moron and you seem to fall into that category.

We didn't get lucky we got hit as hard as we could get hit ... An were still freaking here.

So preach the Doom and Gloom brother ... the rest of us will be living it up.


You've been posting anti-vax and covid-denying bs for months, and constantly shifting goalposts whenever your arguments get dismantled, much like hover11. So you're either a better troll than him, or you're easily amongst the least intelligent people on this board.

We've had SoE and lockdowns for months when things were escalating, before Delta, and you saying we got hit as hard as we could get hit? are you so dense and ignorant that you don't even pay attention to what has happened in territories that have superior healthcare than us, with similar vaccination rates and similar levels of restrictions as we do right now? It's not rocket science.

Even though the global scientific conversation is no longer about herd immunity, but rather personal protection, it's simply ignorant to not acknowledge that our healthcare infrastructure will be in considerable danger in the coming weeks and months.
The health system in this country has always been In a crisis. Idk why ppl acting like you could have actually received a hospital bed pre covid, some advice invest in medical health plan don't depend on public healthcare or you will be in for a rude awakening. Tired hearing the health system gonna collapse song , Months now they singing that where is the collapse where is the crisis steups give me a break yes

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby adnj » October 24th, 2021, 2:59 pm

An Overwhelmed Healthcare System

Early in the pandemic, the government created a parallel healthcare system, designating certain medical facilities to treat COVID-19 patients. However, the government did not fully enforce border closure, leading to a Venezuelan immigrant introducing the P1 Brazilian variant into the country.

Cases surged, with hospitals reaching over 95% occupation. The government’s inability to offer a steady supply of PPE, overtime or childcare pushed healthcare workers, who the pandemic had already spread thin, out of the profession. Despite the one nurse to 30 patient ratio, the Joint Trade Union Movement revealed that medical facilities were still only hiring healthcare workers temporarily.

Dr. Maryam Abdool-Richards, Principal Medical Officer, announced that hospitals were filling faster than emptying and they are “basically out of hospital beds.” This resulted in only 10 patients being admitted to the hospital per 100 cases. Meanwhile, those who were not able to afford private healthcare had to treat themselves at home. The U.S. government donated two field hospitals to mitigate COVID-19’s impact on Trinidad and Tobago, each with a 40-bed capacity.


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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby sMASH » October 24th, 2021, 3:31 pm

Sando used to be 130% occupation on a regular day before covid.

And now they established separate system to not affect the regular system.

The ur 8 icu spaces close to filled for a population of 1.5m.

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Postby Kenjo » October 24th, 2021, 3:35 pm

sMASH wrote:Sando used to be 130% occupation on a regular day before covid.

And now they established separate system to not affect the regular system.

The ur 8 icu spaces close to filled for a population of 1.5m.

600000 population if you meant Sando alone for 8 icu beds

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby adnj » October 24th, 2021, 3:53 pm

TTO hospital bed density and world ranking.ImageImage

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby sMASH » October 24th, 2021, 4:27 pm

Sando has people lining the corridors for days waiting for bed, some times only to stay for a few hours to get discharged.

What ever those stars are, they don't reflect the reality.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby adnj » October 24th, 2021, 4:45 pm

sMASH wrote:Sando has people lining the corridors for days waiting for bed, some times only to stay for a few hours to get discharged.

What ever those stars are, they don't reflect the reality.
That's total hospital beds. Not free government beds.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby eitech » October 24th, 2021, 7:07 pm

axe wrote:https://youtu.be/O1DgWYdukZU


No proof. No evidence. They fabricating stories. Might be on fact checker jus now. Censor that news.

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » October 24th, 2021, 7:45 pm

axe wrote:https://youtu.be/O1DgWYdukZU

Without testing and accurate information it is difficult to take this claim as entirely true

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/ ... -immunity/

There have been excess deaths within the Amish communities in the USA
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8195242/

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby pugboy » October 24th, 2021, 8:18 pm

if so then there should be similar rates with other closed communities

eg amerindian tribes in amazon

afaik them amerindians got licks in brazil

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby adnj » October 25th, 2021, 10:24 am

When will life return to normal?

While the best vaccines are highly effective at preventing hospitalization and death, it takes a coordinated campaign to stop a pandemic. Infectious-disease experts say that vaccinating 70% to 85% of the U.S. population would enable a return to normalcy.

On a global scale, that’s a daunting level of vaccination. At the current pace of 27.5 million a day, the goal of high levels of global immunity remains a long way off. Manufacturing capacity, however, is steadily increasing, and new vaccines by additional manufacturers are coming to market.

The Path to Immunity Around the World

In Trinidad and Tobago, the latest vaccination rate is 4,043 doses per day, on average. At this pace, it will take another 7 months to cover 75% of the population.


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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby Ben_spanna » October 25th, 2021, 1:44 pm

Govt needs to make it mandatory NOW... and who ever refuses will not be able to get access too any public place at all.

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Postby aaron17 » October 25th, 2021, 4:56 pm

Sounding like we following suite with other countries.. then protests will be outcome... maco as usual.

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby DMan7 » October 25th, 2021, 5:28 pm

They need to make it mandatory that unvaccinated people will not be treated if they contracted covid 19. It's time to put up or shut up!

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Postby hover11 » October 25th, 2021, 5:32 pm

DMan7 wrote:They need to make it mandatory that unvaccinated people will not be treated if they contracted covid 19. It's time to put up or shut up!
Your body your choice

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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

Postby DMan7 » October 25th, 2021, 5:55 pm

hover11 wrote:
DMan7 wrote:They need to make it mandatory that unvaccinated people will not be treated if they contracted covid 19. It's time to put up or shut up!
Your body your choice


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Re: Local anti-vaxxers

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Lol. They would say they making up numbers.

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