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The_Honourable wrote:Target tuner advertisers? PariaMan stop... you sounding like dem tell tell baby back in primary school.
Duane and the other mods do clean up the cheds from time to time but they are not going to censor views especially if those views are being challenged and rebutted by other tuners.
No need for censorship on this forum. Anti-vaxxers or maybe simply those persons who want to question the mainstream narrative should be given a forum to discuss where those who want to rebut and state the science should equally be given an opportunity. I'm in healthcare, i'm vaxxed but I have issues with most of the mainstream narrative and fearmongering.
It have cheds outside tuner speaking about 666, mark of the beast, antichrist fauci, satanic RNA, microchipping, cell phone towers, etc. This ched is nowhere near that, for the most part it questions vaccine efficacy. Only issues here is repetitive posts, shifting goalposts and barbs.
I check out this ched once in a while more for the entertainment. If you don't like it, don't go near it.
Awaiting the call for my third shotCarbon12 wrote:timelapse wrote:I not disputing Paria man covid figures, just the censorship part
I don't think paria man is "fully vaccinated" anymore, go take your third shot son, idk how we unvaccinated still even alive but we actually healthy too. How!
The_Honourable wrote:Target tuner advertisers? PariaMan stop... you sounding like dem tell tell baby back in primary school.
Duane and the other mods do clean up the cheds from time to time but they are not going to censor views especially if those views are being challenged and rebutted by other tuners.
No need for censorship on this forum. Anti-vaxxers or maybe simply those persons who want to question the mainstream narrative should be given a forum to discuss where those who want to rebut and state the science should equally be given an opportunity. I'm in healthcare, i'm vaxxed but I have issues with most of the mainstream narrative and fearmongering.
It have cheds outside tuner speaking about 666, mark of the beast, antichrist fauci, satanic RNA, microchipping, cell phone towers, etc. This ched is nowhere near that, for the most part it questions vaccine efficacy. Only issues here is repetitive posts, shifting goalposts and barbs.
I check out this ched once in a while more for the entertainment. If you don't like it, don't go near it.
PariaMan wrote:The solution is not lockdown
This will just encourage the spread among families
This worked for other strains but will not work for the new strains
The only solution is mass vaccination
DUANE YOU MUST DO YOUR PART TO STOP HESITANCY
IF YOU ARE NOT STRONG ENOUGH TO DO SO LET THE ADVERTISERS DO IT FOR YOU
PariaMan wrote:Reality is over 90 percent hospitalized are unvaccinated
Vaccination lessens
1. Chance of getting covid
2. Probability of transmission
3. Probability of hospitalization
4. Probability of death
PariaMan wrote:Well let's please see some action on blatant misinformation
Reality is over 90 percent hospitalized are unvaccinated
Vaccination lessens
1. Chance of getting covid
2. Probability of transmission
3. Probability of hospitalization
4. Probability of death
It's out of your system in 3 days
We should not have to rebutt against these facts over and over from the likes of hover
It would be nice if these posts are deleted or at the very least a disclaimer placed automatically that says such statements are incorrect
PariaMan wrote:Well let's please see some action on blatant misinformation
Reality is over 90 percent hospitalized are unvaccinated
Vaccination lessens
1. Chance of getting covid
2. Probability of transmission
3. Probability of hospitalization
4. Probability of death
It's out of your system in 3 days
We should not have to rebutt against these facts over and over from the likes of hover
It would be nice if these posts are deleted or at the very least a disclaimer placed automatically that says such statements are incorrect
Lessens but does NOT eliminate riskPariaMan wrote:Well let's please see some action on blatant misinformation
Reality is over 90 percent hospitalized are unvaccinated
Vaccination lessens
1. Chance of getting covid
2. Probability of transmission
3. Probability of hospitalization
4. Probability of death
It's out of your system in 3 days
We should not have to rebutt against these facts over and over from the likes of hover
It would be nice if these posts are deleted or at the very least a disclaimer placed automatically that says such statements are incorrect
hover11 wrote:Lessens but does NOT eliminate riskPariaMan wrote:Well let's please see some action on blatant misinformation
Reality is over 90 percent hospitalized are unvaccinated
Vaccination lessens
1. Chance of getting covid
2. Probability of transmission
3. Probability of hospitalization
4. Probability of death
It's out of your system in 3 days
We should not have to rebutt against these facts over and over from the likes of hover
It would be nice if these posts are deleted or at the very least a disclaimer placed automatically that says such statements are incorrect
Duane it's a temporary layer, which wanes after 5 to 6 months, ppl have to be willing to subject themselves to be injected that many times and it must be on clockwork or the artificial herd immunity falls apartDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:hover11 wrote:Lessens but does NOT eliminate riskPariaMan wrote:Well let's please see some action on blatant misinformation
Reality is over 90 percent hospitalized are unvaccinated
Vaccination lessens
1. Chance of getting covid
2. Probability of transmission
3. Probability of hospitalization
4. Probability of death
It's out of your system in 3 days
We should not have to rebutt against these facts over and over from the likes of hover
It would be nice if these posts are deleted or at the very least a disclaimer placed automatically that says such statements are incorrect
This argument is invalid.
It is a layer of protection.
If everyone was vaccinated, wore masks, social distanced and sanitized the virus will eventually have no method to spread.
List the other side of things...aaron17 wrote:PariaMan wrote:Well let's please see some action on blatant misinformation
Reality is over 90 percent hospitalized are unvaccinated
Vaccination lessens
1. Chance of getting covid
2. Probability of transmission
3. Probability of hospitalization
4. Probability of death
It's out of your system in 3 days
We should not have to rebutt against these facts over and over from the likes of hover
It would be nice if these posts are deleted or at the very least a disclaimer placed automatically that says such statements are incorrect
ok and what about the other side of things?
hover11 wrote:Duane it's a temporary layer, which wanes after 5 to 6 months, ppl have to be willing to subject themselves to be injected that many times and it must be on clockwork or the artificial herd immunity falls apartDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:hover11 wrote:Lessens but does NOT eliminate riskPariaMan wrote:Well let's please see some action on blatant misinformation
Reality is over 90 percent hospitalized are unvaccinated
Vaccination lessens
1. Chance of getting covid
2. Probability of transmission
3. Probability of hospitalization
4. Probability of death
It's out of your system in 3 days
We should not have to rebutt against these facts over and over from the likes of hover
It would be nice if these posts are deleted or at the very least a disclaimer placed automatically that says such statements are incorrect
This argument is invalid.
It is a layer of protection.
If everyone was vaccinated, wore masks, social distanced and sanitized the virus will eventually have no method to spread.
Like I said people have to be WILLING to subject themselves to or simply disregard boosters, many persons aren't too keen on the idea of taking boosters for the rest of their life but okadnj wrote:hover11 wrote:Duane it's a temporary layer, which wanes after 5 to 6 months, ppl have to be willing to subject themselves to be injected that many times and it must be on clockwork or the artificial herd immunity falls apartDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:hover11 wrote:Lessens but does NOT eliminate riskPariaMan wrote:Well let's please see some action on blatant misinformation
Reality is over 90 percent hospitalized are unvaccinated
Vaccination lessens
1. Chance of getting covid
2. Probability of transmission
3. Probability of hospitalization
4. Probability of death
It's out of your system in 3 days
We should not have to rebutt against these facts over and over from the likes of hover
It would be nice if these posts are deleted or at the very least a disclaimer placed automatically that says such statements are incorrect
This argument is invalid.
It is a layer of protection.
If everyone was vaccinated, wore masks, social distanced and sanitized the virus will eventually have no method to spread.
It is a layer of protection. That layer likely lasts 5 or 6 months. After that, it is likely that an additional injection is needed.
Now what is your issue?
People such as whom? The are repercussions for not vaccinating such as travel, employment and entertainment options, but there is no compulsory vaccination.hover11 wrote:Like I said people have to be WILLING to subject themselves to or simply disregard boosters, many persons aren't too keen on the idea of taking boosters for the rest of their life but okadnj wrote:hover11 wrote:Duane it's a temporary layer, which wanes after 5 to 6 months, ppl have to be willing to subject themselves to be injected that many times and it must be on clockwork or the artificial herd immunity falls apartDuane 3NE 2NR wrote:hover11 wrote:Lessens but does NOT eliminate riskPariaMan wrote:Well let's please see some action on blatant misinformation
Reality is over 90 percent hospitalized are unvaccinated
Vaccination lessens
1. Chance of getting covid
2. Probability of transmission
3. Probability of hospitalization
4. Probability of death
It's out of your system in 3 days
We should not have to rebutt against these facts over and over from the likes of hover
It would be nice if these posts are deleted or at the very least a disclaimer placed automatically that says such statements are incorrect
This argument is invalid.
It is a layer of protection.
If everyone was vaccinated, wore masks, social distanced and sanitized the virus will eventually have no method to spread.
It is a layer of protection. That layer likely lasts 5 or 6 months. After that, it is likely that an additional injection is needed.
Now what is your issue?
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:If everyone was vaccinated, wore masks, social distanced and sanitized the virus will eventually have no method to spread.
timelapse wrote:Saw Umar umbrella and his lackey walking up the southern main road into Chaguanas today.Just like that mad man Kublalsingh, he'll realise that he not as important as he thinks
aaron17 wrote:1. there may be a jump in heart attacks within 5 years.
2. immune system may be weaker when constantly jabbing (innate immune system)
3. The time factor of vaccine testing
etc.
adnj wrote:aaron17 wrote:1. there may be a jump in heart attacks within 5 years.
2. immune system may be weaker when constantly jabbing (innate immune system)
3. The time factor of vaccine testing
etc.
There is no evidence of a weaker immune system as a consequence of vaccine boosters.
Myocarditis triggered by vaccination is a consequence of the COVID protein that is used to trigger the immune response. Vaccination pinpoints time of introduction so that a person can be monitored for the few days that an issue would surface prior to the vaccine clearing the circulatory system. Very few episodes are severe to cause permanent heart damage. Those few episodes were from unmonitored patients. Even mild cases clear on there own and pose no long term threat.
So what is your issue?
4.8 reported cases per million. All self-clearing.aaron17 wrote:adnj wrote:aaron17 wrote:1. there may be a jump in heart attacks within 5 years.
2. immune system may be weaker when constantly jabbing (innate immune system)
3. The time factor of vaccine testing
etc.
There is no evidence of a weaker immune system as a consequence of vaccine boosters.
Myocarditis triggered by vaccination is a consequence of the COVID protein that is used to trigger the immune response. Vaccination pinpoints time of introduction so that a person can be monitored for the few days that an issue would surface prior to the vaccine clearing the circulatory system. Very few episodes are severe to cause permanent heart damage. Those few episodes were from unmonitored patients. Even mild cases clear on there own and pose no long term threat.
So what is your issue?
redmanjp wrote:the thing is why are there so many ppl reporting serious side effects? locally on social media as well as globally.
my dad knows of 2 people who had serious adverse effects resulting in hospitalization after the vaccine. a coworker of mine said a relative of him died after taking the vaccine. i know many cases could just be coincidence, but is it really 5 cases in the whole country according to MOH?
the MOH need to release some stats on normal rates of strokes, heart attacks, etc so that ppl can see whether or not the vaccine is causing serious issues. for instance what happened in the case of the pastor son who got a stroke the same day as the vaccine?
at the end of the day though the vaccine still not killing between 20-30 ppl a day. sars-cov-2 is doing that. benefits still outweigh the risks.
Dohplaydat wrote:Can't believe we still debating this.
Y'all antivaxxers haven't realized you're being trolled by Russian/Chinese/North Korean bots to basically keep the pandemic going on longer in the west.
Stop being dotish and realize this is a real pandemic with grave consequences and we have a decent vaccine that provides us with some protection against a virus that mutates fairly quickly.
Even with Omicron, the initial reports say that while the vaccinated might all get it, it's quite mild.
No vaccine forget this notion of vaccines , it is a choice what ppl have to focus on is personal responsibility. Vaccinated or unvaxxed you cannot be feeling sick and still going to work or town and spreading your pathogens and endangering others , knowing that you are sick and still going to mingle to others is a huge problemDohplaydat wrote:Can't believe we still debating this.
Y'all antivaxxers haven't realized you're being trolled by Russian/Chinese/North Korean bots to basically keep the pandemic going on longer in the west.
Stop being dotish and realize this is a real pandemic with grave consequences and we have a decent vaccine that provides us with some protection against a virus that mutates fairly quickly.
Even with Omicron, the initial reports say that while the vaccinated might all get it, it's quite mild.
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