Local Covid Anti-Vaxxers vs Studies Spammers

[hover11]

Didn't know you were a psychologist.....struggling with the English language yet at the same time can analyze people....utterly remarkable

So we only recognize the good in science and disregard the bad ...got you

Bro alot of ppl say trust the science right .....the same science did the tuskegee project..Google it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52151722.amp



Leaving this rigggghhhttt here

Saying "the same science" is extremely broad. The Tuskegee study was carried out by the US Government, not simply "the science". Cause you can also say "the same science" invented Panadol, or Space travel or Computers etc.
Science and Scientists are not a monolith.

hover does try to throw out very broad sticks hoping one of them catches fire. that has been his strategy since day one.

he is spreading misinformation about everything because he does not understand the topic he's trying to debate, forcing everyone to not take the vaccine as well so he feels validated about his decision.

Exactly! If he ever needs to go to a hospital or take medication I wonder off he'll shun the same "science".

That's not what I was saying and you know it. I was saying that since you distrust the vaccines because of the Tuskegee experiment (which again was carried out by the US Govt and not simply "science") then I hope you also don't trust the hospitals and any form of medication for the same reason.

+1

he is trying his best to constantly stir up drama. imagine his other toxic traits

[st7]

Didn't know you were a psychologist.....struggling with the English language yet at the same time can analyze people....utterly remarkable

So we only recognize the good in science and disregard the bad ...got you

Bro alot of ppl say trust the science right .....the same science did the tuskegee project..Google it

Saying "the same science" is extremely broad. The Tuskegee study was carried out by the US Government, not simply "the science". Cause you can also say "the same science" invented Panadol, or Space travel or Computers etc.
Science and Scientists are not a monolith.

hover does try to throw out very broad sticks hoping one of them catches fire. that has been his strategy since day one.

he is spreading misinformation about everything because he does not understand the topic he's trying to debate, forcing everyone to not take the vaccine as well so he feels validated about his decision.

Exactly! If he ever needs to go to a hospital or take medication I wonder off he'll shun the same "science".

That's not what I was saying and you know it. I was saying that since you distrust the vaccines because of the Tuskegee experiment (which again was carried out by the US Govt and not simply "science") then I hope you also don't trust the hospitals and any form of medication for the same reason.

+1

he is trying his best to constantly stir up drama. imagine his other toxic traits

struggling with the english language? what? grasping at straws again dey or what.

[matr1x]

Fact is, all of these are still in testing phase. 1 year is barely enough testing time for short term side effects.




Wonder how much WHO partners making from this.

[hover11]

Well I asked for your grade in English again a very simple question and you have yet to answer such so I have come to the conclusion that you have difficulties in grasping the English language...completely understandable

Didn't know you were a psychologist.....struggling with the English language yet at the same time can analyze people....utterly remarkable

So we only recognize the good in science and disregard the bad ...got you

Saying "the same science" is extremely broad. The Tuskegee study was carried out by the US Government, not simply "the science". Cause you can also say "the same science" invented Panadol, or Space travel or Computers etc.
Science and Scientists are not a monolith.

hover does try to throw out very broad sticks hoping one of them catches fire. that has been his strategy since day one.

he is spreading misinformation about everything because he does not understand the topic he's trying to debate, forcing everyone to not take the vaccine as well so he feels validated about his decision.

Exactly! If he ever needs to go to a hospital or take medication I wonder off he'll shun the same "science".

That's not what I was saying and you know it. I was saying that since you distrust the vaccines because of the Tuskegee experiment (which again was carried out by the US Govt and not simply "science") then I hope you also don't trust the hospitals and any form of medication for the same reason.

+1

he is trying his best to constantly stir up drama. imagine his other toxic traits

struggling with the english language? what? grasping at straws again dey or what.

[hover11]

They will say with the advancement in science over the years we dont need all that time to research even though the CDC says they are still learning how the vaccine works and how the virus interacts with such.....essentially we are all the lab rats under observation

Fact is, all of these are still in testing phase. 1 year is barely enough testing time for short term side effects.




Wonder how much WHO partners making from this.

[st7]

Well I asked for your grade in English again a very simple question and you have yet to answer such so I have come to the conclusion that you have difficulties in grasping the English language...completely understandable

Didn't know you were a psychologist.....struggling with the English language yet at the same time can analyze people....utterly remarkable

So we only recognize the good in science and disregard the bad ...got you

hover does try to throw out very broad sticks hoping one of them catches fire. that has been his strategy since day one.

he is spreading misinformation about everything because he does not understand the topic he's trying to debate, forcing everyone to not take the vaccine as well so he feels validated about his decision.

Exactly! If he ever needs to go to a hospital or take medication I wonder off he'll shun the same "science".

That's not what I was saying and you know it. I was saying that since you distrust the vaccines because of the Tuskegee experiment (which again was carried out by the US Govt and not simply "science") then I hope you also don't trust the hospitals and any form of medication for the same reason.

+1

he is trying his best to constantly stir up drama. imagine his other toxic traits

struggling with the english language? what? grasping at straws again dey or what.

i get a G in english... as in Good. come at me brah

[hover11]

You "get" a G in English....take that as a U then....carry on and it all makes sense now

Well I asked for your grade in English again a very simple question and you have yet to answer such so I have come to the conclusion that you have difficulties in grasping the English language...completely understandable

Didn't know you were a psychologist.....struggling with the English language yet at the same time can analyze people....utterly remarkable

So we only recognize the good in science and disregard the bad ...got you

Exactly! If he ever needs to go to a hospital or take medication I wonder off he'll shun the same "science".

That's not what I was saying and you know it. I was saying that since you distrust the vaccines because of the Tuskegee experiment (which again was carried out by the US Govt and not simply "science") then I hope you also don't trust the hospitals and any form of medication for the same reason.

+1

he is trying his best to constantly stir up drama. imagine his other toxic traits

struggling with the english language? what? grasping at straws again dey or what.

i get a G in english... as in Good. come at me brah

[st7]

[Redman]

Of course others just need to bracket others as stupid just to be dismissive.

I took the vax...and I fully understand anyone's reluctance to take it.

It's a choice based on insufficient information on both sides.
There is a ton of info from seemingly credible sources that advocate for and against.


The article includes a link to Vanden Bossches blog.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vacci ... s-variants
In a summary of his findings, he writes: "As of the early days of the mass vaccination campaigns, at least a few experts have been warning against the catastrophic impact such a program could have on global and individual health. Mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic is prone to promoting selection and adaptation of immune escape variants that are featured by increasing infectiousness and resistance to spike protein (S)-directed antibodies (Abs), thereby diminishing protection in vaccinees and threatening the unvaccinated."

That guy doesn't really seem to know what he's talking about. This article does a decent job of explaining why he's incorrect. Also there are no 'credible sources' on the against side.

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid ... en-bossche

Yes and that's the point....VB is in a position to know what he is talking about.
So is McGill.

You pick who you choose to listen too...on the basis of what some one elsee says about the source.

Every one here is relying on third fourth and fifth party credibly on order to make a decision that has long term PERSONAL consequences.

Smart people do what makes sense to them.

[ed360123]

Of course others just need to bracket others as stupid just to be dismissive.

I took the vax...and I fully understand anyone's reluctance to take it.

It's a choice based on insufficient information on both sides.
There is a ton of info from seemingly credible sources that advocate for and against.


The article includes a link to Vanden Bossches blog.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vacci ... s-variants
In a summary of his findings, he writes: "As of the early days of the mass vaccination campaigns, at least a few experts have been warning against the catastrophic impact such a program could have on global and individual health. Mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic is prone to promoting selection and adaptation of immune escape variants that are featured by increasing infectiousness and resistance to spike protein (S)-directed antibodies (Abs), thereby diminishing protection in vaccinees and threatening the unvaccinated."

That guy doesn't really seem to know what he's talking about. This article does a decent job of explaining why he's incorrect. Also there are no 'credible sources' on the against side.

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid ... en-bossche

Yes and that's the point....VB is in a position to know what he is talking about.
So is McGill.

You pick who you choose to listen too...on the basis of what some one elsee says about the source.

Every one here is relying on third fourth and fifth party credibly on order to make a decision that has long term PERSONAL consequences.

Smart people do what makes sense to them.

I agree that you ultimately should talk to your doctor about it. But what VB is saying is completely contrary to the consensus of other scientists. That's the point I was making.

[elec2020]

Watson Duke. The latest antivaxxer

[Redman]

Of course others just need to bracket others as stupid just to be dismissive.

I took the vax...and I fully understand anyone's reluctance to take it.

It's a choice based on insufficient information on both sides.
There is a ton of info from seemingly credible sources that advocate for and against.


The article includes a link to Vanden Bossches blog.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/vacci ... s-variants
In a summary of his findings, he writes: "As of the early days of the mass vaccination campaigns, at least a few experts have been warning against the catastrophic impact such a program could have on global and individual health. Mass vaccination in the middle of a pandemic is prone to promoting selection and adaptation of immune escape variants that are featured by increasing infectiousness and resistance to spike protein (S)-directed antibodies (Abs), thereby diminishing protection in vaccinees and threatening the unvaccinated."

That guy doesn't really seem to know what he's talking about. This article does a decent job of explaining why he's incorrect. Also there are no 'credible sources' on the against side.

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid ... en-bossche

Yes and that's the point....VB is in a position to know what he is talking about.
So is McGill.

You pick who you choose to listen too...on the basis of what some one elsee says about the source.

Every one here is relying on third fourth and fifth party credibly on order to make a decision that has long term PERSONAL consequences.

Smart people do what makes sense to them.

I agree that you ultimately should talk to your doctor about it. But what VB is saying is completely contrary to the consensus of other scientists. That's the point I was making.

Well that's the thing as well....many of the facts about C19 that are accepted today were pilloried last year.
The WHO is admitting that they allowed China to control the flow of info in the early stages.
VB might just be early.


Let's face it..Saddam had WMDs.

My only point here is that we shouldn't be dismissive of people that have a POV that is opposed to ours when we are ALL just parroting something that other people with their own agendas vocalize.

[elec2020]

^ nah democracy is overrated. Do as I say. Don't question my authoritah

[De Dragon]

I always say ....consult with your MD before taking that plunge and taking the vaccine at the end of the day it's your choice. [b]However we all have to follow the same health protocols and still protect ourselves from covid [/b]not like after you're fully vaccinated you automatically don't have to wear a mask or sanitize anymore

I wonder how people feeling encouraging people not to take the vaccine when there are people who would be alive today if they had been vaccinated

It's one thing to not take but to encourage others who may not be as healthy and who ends up dead is a grevious offense

You keep speaking as if these two things are mutually exclusive and not already in the public domain One can only conclude that you're never going to, MD or not, and that is your right, but your right to peddle misinformation and twist the facts cannot, and will not, go unchallenged.
Imagine in the middle of August 2021 still professing amazement, and wielding it as an anti vax argument that Covid can still be spread from vaxxed people, without acknowledging that prior to Delta, this was simply the most negligible of instances. This is believing that Gamma, Beta and the all others went away somewhere
Dominant strain doesn't mean only

[timelapse]

How in God's green earth is that unrelated, this shows their manner of "study" when doing tests ....when I travel I never had to take shots so I confused what you talking about and when it had breakouts of yellow fever etc I simply waited till it died down then flew out

Bro alot of ppl say trust the science right .....the same science did the tuskegee project..Google it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52151722.amp



Leaving this rigggghhhttt here

Again you are relating unrelated things.
Tell me, what makes this particular vaccine different?
Because if you were traveling to some countries in the past, you would need yellow fever, typhoid etc vaccines.What changed? Global wokeness? Tell me more

India

[hover11]

Have no plans to visit there so I could live without seeing there

How in God's green earth is that unrelated, this shows their manner of "study" when doing tests ....when I travel I never had to take shots so I confused what you talking about and when it had breakouts of yellow fever etc I simply waited till it died down then flew out

Bro alot of ppl say trust the science right .....the same science did the tuskegee project..Google it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52151722.amp



Leaving this rigggghhhttt here

Again you are relating unrelated things.
Tell me, what makes this particular vaccine different?
Because if you were traveling to some countries in the past, you would need yellow fever, typhoid etc vaccines.What changed? Global wokeness? Tell me more

India

[timelapse]

Have no plans to visit there so I could live without seeing there

How in God's green earth is that unrelated, this shows their manner of "study" when doing tests ....when I travel I never had to take shots so I confused what you talking about and when it had breakouts of yellow fever etc I simply waited till it died down then flew out

Bro alot of ppl say trust the science right .....the same science did the tuskegee project..Google it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52151722.amp



Leaving this rigggghhhttt here

Again you are relating unrelated things.
Tell me, what makes this particular vaccine different?
Because if you were traveling to some countries in the past, you would need yellow fever, typhoid etc vaccines.What changed? Global wokeness? Tell me more

India

WHO page has a whole pdf of countries.

[elec2020]

^ passport expires 2027 and VISA expires 2028. By that time vaccination pass will be a thing of the past. So I can wait

[timelapse]

How in God's green earth is that unrelated, this shows their manner of "study" when doing tests ....when I travel I never had to take shots so I confused what you talking about and when it had breakouts of yellow fever etc I simply waited till it died down then flew out

Bro alot of ppl say trust the science right .....the same science did the tuskegee project..Google it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52151722.amp



Leaving this rigggghhhttt here

Again you are relating unrelated things.
Tell me, what makes this particular vaccine different?
Because if you were traveling to some countries in the past, you would need yellow fever, typhoid etc vaccines.What changed? Global wokeness? Tell me more

Who is their?
That's why I said it is unrelated.
I suppose in your mind , once you name scientist, you automatically become a member of Science Inc. which is responsible for everything scientific.
If you are buying into that theory, stop using your smartphone, computer, car and whatever else 'they' have influenced, because other than that you are a hypocrite.

[st7]

How in God's green earth is that unrelated, this shows their manner of "study" when doing tests ....when I travel I never had to take shots so I confused what you talking about and when it had breakouts of yellow fever etc I simply waited till it died down then flew out

Bro alot of ppl say trust the science right .....the same science did the tuskegee project..Google it

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-52151722.amp



Leaving this rigggghhhttt here

Again you are relating unrelated things.
Tell me, what makes this particular vaccine different?
Because if you were traveling to some countries in the past, you would need yellow fever, typhoid etc vaccines.What changed? Global wokeness? Tell me more

Who is their?
That's why I said it is unrelated.
I suppose in your mind , once you name scientist, you automatically become a member of Science Inc. which is responsible for everything scientific.
If you are buying into that theory, stop using your smartphone, computer, car and whatever else 'they' have influenced, because other than that you are a hypocrite.

+1

[fokhan_96]

Just gonna leave this here.

[hover11]

So this chart clearly shows you can be hospitalized even after being fully vaccinated....interesting

Just gonna leave this here.

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[aaron17]

'Breakthrough cases'

[Ben_spanna]

When delta overwhelms our current hospital beds and ICU, they should give priority to those who are vaccinated should they have breakthrough cases.. leave all the anti vaccers outside by the tents as they did not want to help support our fight against covid….

[De Dragon]

So this chart clearly shows you can be hospitalized even after being fully vaccinated....interesting

Just gonna leave this here.FB_IMG_1628968870292.jpg

You are nothing if not determined to spew the same nonsense throughout.
Where did you read/research that you absolutely cannot get Covid if you're vaccinated? I hope the same place shows you the lesser severity of illness and death rates and not just infections. I hope you see the recovery times and long Covid rates in both groups

[st7]

So this chart clearly shows you can be hospitalized even after being fully vaccinated....interesting

Just gonna leave this here.FB_IMG_1628968870292.jpg

You are nothing if not determined to spew the same nonsense throughout.
Where did you read/research that you absolutely cannot get Covid if you're vaccinated? I hope the same place shows you the lesser severity of illness and death rates and not just infections. I hope you see the recovery times and long Covid rates in both groups

[fokhan_96]

When delta overwhelms our current hospital beds and ICU, they should give priority to those who are vaccinated should they have breakthrough cases.. leave all the anti vaccers outside by the tents as they did not want to help support our fight against covid….

Is how people say such nasty things about doctors and when they get sick they go and have treatment by these very doctors. I mean, if you think doctors don't know what they talking about, why would you go seek treatment by doctors when you get sick. I'm confused.

[hover11]

Half the nurses didn't take it....20 percent of defense force, 40 percent police, 20 percent prisoners have taken it based on the PM....they don't even have a figure for teachers , people don't trust the vaccine clear indication... what you gonna do beg them to take it

[aaron17]

Wrt delta.....once you feel something, you should start treatment as soon as. Same goes to once u test positive and show no symptoms. You can't wait till you get symptoms. That is why ppl are dying and hospitalized more. Yeah the vaccines doing what it doing for the now..but for the future , we don't know about effects. We have treatments but they treating at late stages. Best to treat at home. There is a preventative too.

Flccc site has protocols. Is that site a scam?

[elec2020]

Just gonna leave this here.FB_IMG_1628968870292.jpg

https://www.wlrn.org/2021-08-11/cdc-fix ... -takeaways

In a series of tweets published Monday night, the state argued the CDC was getting the Florida stats wrong and misleading the public.