COVID vaccine passes. and SAFE ZONES Yay or Nay?

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the solution is simple,
every one who is vaccinated should get a "mark" of some kind ... some where easily readable , lets say the forehead.
that way it can be easily seen and scanned, this mark will be needed to do govt business, go to grocery - gas- houses of pleasure etc etc

everyone else will remain indoor at all time, until they dead

They should also make it easy to read, like 666, right?

Christianity still thinks that its relevant...sigh

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

If you had a choice between sinopharm and the others not just pfizer....would you have still taken sinopharm?

The other vaccines are not as effective against the Delta variant either.
Just be objective in your reading

Good question.
I prefer to follow the science.
The data has changed since I took the vaccine.
At the point in time I would have personally opted for Moderna - in all truthfullness.
But I took the vaccine that was available and can look at whatever is available when a booster is needed.

But rejecting every vaccine presented to you because you subjectively read something somewhere that fits with your personal confirmation bias and calling it Chinese Water isn't the way to go.

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https://youtu.be/HA4VBoso5cY

Does this sound familiar?

[death365]

something more like this
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of course it will be with special ink that is linked to your bank account and Id info- nfc enabled of course

the solution is simple,
every one who is vaccinated should get a "mark" of some kind ... some where easily readable , lets say the forehead.
that way it can be easily seen and scanned, this mark will be needed to do govt business, go to grocery - gas- houses of pleasure etc etc

everyone else will remain indoor at all time, until they dead

They should also make it easy to read, like 666, right?

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something more like this
-
1010011010

of course it will be with special ink that is linked to your bank account and Id info- nfc enabled of course

the solution is simple,
every one who is vaccinated should get a "mark" of some kind ... some where easily readable , lets say the forehead.
that way it can be easily seen and scanned, this mark will be needed to do govt business, go to grocery - gas- houses of pleasure etc etc

everyone else will remain indoor at all time, until they dead

They should also make it easy to read, like 666, right?

You don't think that printing it on your id card would be cheaper and easier?

[gastly369]

something more like this
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1010011010

of course it will be with special ink that is linked to your bank account and Id info- nfc enabled of course

the solution is simple,
every one who is vaccinated should get a "mark" of some kind ... some where easily readable , lets say the forehead.
that way it can be easily seen and scanned, this mark will be needed to do govt business, go to grocery - gas- houses of pleasure etc etc

everyone else will remain indoor at all time, until they dead

They should also make it easy to read, like 666, right?

You don't think that printing it on your id card would be cheaper and easier?

[Chimera]

alot of people have died because they waiting for the vaccine of their choice.......

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something more like this
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1010011010

of course it will be with special ink that is linked to your bank account and Id info- nfc enabled of course

the solution is simple,
every one who is vaccinated should get a "mark" of some kind ... some where easily readable , lets say the forehead.
that way it can be easily seen and scanned, this mark will be needed to do govt business, go to grocery - gas- houses of pleasure etc etc

everyone else will remain indoor at all time, until they dead

They should also make it easy to read, like 666, right?

You don't think that printing it on your id card would be cheaper and easier?

I misunderstood.
You want a barcode tattoo lol.
Carry on good sir.

[redmanjp]

i personally would still allow, depending on the variant in circulation, unvaxxed can access lower risk essential services/businesses. e.g. groceries, drug store, etc. but of course wearing a proper mask (not no single layer piece of cloth or handkerchief) and in limited numbers.

for mask off activities like dining in, drinking in bars- vaccinated alone indoors, unvaxxed outdoors- with limited capacity for both.

with delta well, that changes everything- vaxxed outdoor dining alone, no indoor dining for anyone.

[sMASH]

alot of people have died because they waiting for the vaccine of their choice.......

and many have not.

[sMASH]

If you had a choice between sinopharm and the others not just pfizer....would you have still taken sinopharm?

The other vaccines are not as effective against the Delta variant either.
Just be objective in your reading

Good question.
I prefer to follow the science.
The data has changed since I took the vaccine.
At the point in time I would have personally opted for Moderna - in all truthfullness.
But I took the vaccine that was available and can look at whatever is available when a booster is needed.

But rejecting every vaccine presented to you because you subjectively read something somewhere that fits with your personal confirmation bias and calling it Chinese Water isn't the way to go.

srs, for the vast majority of persons, any vaccine is good enough. just the az had shown the blood clotting in some people and the sinopharm not recommended for those that anaphylactic.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

If you had a choice between sinopharm and the others not just pfizer....would you have still taken sinopharm?

The other vaccines are not as effective against the Delta variant either.
Just be objective in your reading

Good question.
I prefer to follow the science.
The data has changed since I took the vaccine.
At the point in time I would have personally opted for Moderna - in all truthfullness.
But I took the vaccine that was available and can look at whatever is available when a booster is needed.

But rejecting every vaccine presented to you because you subjectively read something somewhere that fits with your personal confirmation bias and calling it Chinese Water isn't the way to go.

srs, for the vast majority of persons, any vaccine is good enough. just the az had shown the blood clotting in some people and the sinopharm not recommended for those that anaphylactic.

Where did you see that sinopharm not recommended for those that anaphylactic?

[redmanjp]

alot of people have died because they waiting for the vaccine of their choice.......

and many have not.

many of those still were hospitalized or even in mild cases had or are still experiencing long covid.

[sMASH]

alot of people have died because they waiting for the vaccine of their choice.......

and many have not.

many of those still were hospitalized or even in mild cases had or are still experiencing long covid.

and thats thier fault, their own fault.

[sMASH]

If you had a choice between sinopharm and the others not just pfizer....would you have still taken sinopharm?

The other vaccines are not as effective against the Delta variant either.
Just be objective in your reading

Good question.
I prefer to follow the science.
The data has changed since I took the vaccine.
At the point in time I would have personally opted for Moderna - in all truthfullness.
But I took the vaccine that was available and can look at whatever is available when a booster is needed.

But rejecting every vaccine presented to you because you subjectively read something somewhere that fits with your personal confirmation bias and calling it Chinese Water isn't the way to go.

srs, for the vast majority of persons, any vaccine is good enough. just the az had shown the blood clotting in some people and the sinopharm not recommended for those that anaphylactic.

Where did you see that sinopharm not recommended for those that anaphylactic?

https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-s ... ed-to-know

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ but you left out the most important part of that statement!
People who are anaphylactic TO ANY COMPONENT OF THE VACCINE

That is the reason for the 15-30min wait after you get the vaccine here in T&T to observe for any reactions to the vaccine.
Allergic reactions will occur within minutes of getting a vaccine.

CDC has similar guidelines
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-nc ... ction.html

[sMASH]

no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.

So you read that and decided that there is a chance of allergic reaction only to Sinopharm?

On the same WHO website section you quoted from
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-s ... ed-to-know

For Moderna Covid-19 vaccine

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no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.

Can also be interpreted that the other vaccine manufacturers slack and ignored a possible issue.

[sMASH]

no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.

Can also be interpreted that the other vaccine manufacturers slack and ignored a possible issue.

well from WHO page, not the manufactures' pages... not sure how much copy/paste went on..

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.

Can also be interpreted that the other vaccine manufacturers slack and ignored a possible issue.

It is on the WHO pages for all the vaccines under the same "Who should not take the vaccine" sections.
One uses "Anaphylactic" and the others use "severe allergic reactions".

Anaphylaxis definition:
Anaphylaxis is a severe, potentially life-threatening allergic reaction. It can occur within seconds or minutes of exposure to something you're allergic to

[sMASH]

no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.

So you read that and decided that there is a great chance of allergic reaction only to Sinopharm?

On the same WHO website section you quoted from
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-s ... ed-to-know

For Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 4.15.00 PM.jpg

yup. coming from a history of people hiding things in fine print only for it to come back and bite u later.

as i said, all others had to the effect, dont take if u have severe allergies... that goes with out saying. this the only one that say anaphylaxis

[adnj]

no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.

So you read that and decided that there is a great chance of allergic reaction only to Sinopharm?

On the same WHO website section you quoted from
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-s ... ed-to-know

For Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 4.15.00 PM.jpg

yup. coming from a history of people hiding things in fine print only for it to come back and bite u later.

as i said, all others had to the effect, dont take if u have severe allergies... that goes with out saying. this the only one that say anaphylaxis

Dude. You are just stupid.

[plan4cars9986]

I am glad that there are people on trinituner who are realizing that sMASH is one of the most stupid and politically-aligned persons on this website but poses in many threads as an intellect. There is a Science and Math forum where he posts a lot, but we can see here that he doesn't have a clue about science really.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.

So you read that and decided that there is a great chance of allergic reaction only to Sinopharm?

On the same WHO website section you quoted from
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-s ... ed-to-know

For Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 4.15.00 PM.jpg

yup. coming from a history of people hiding things in fine print only for it to come back and bite u later.

as i said, all others had to the effect, dont take if u have severe allergies... that goes with out saying. this the only one that say anaphylaxis

And what is anaphylaxis?

[sMASH]

life threatening allergic reaction to some substance. not just ur allergies acting up.
allergic; ur body dont like what going on.
anaphylactic; ur body want to kill u for what going on.

[Duane 3NE 2NR]

^ it's the same thing
Anaphylaxis = severe allergic reaction

And out of the half a billion doses of Sinopharm delivered worldwide so far - how many people were killed by an allergic reaction?

[j.o.e]

And out of the half a billion doses of Sinopharm delivered worldwide so far - how many people were killed by an allergic reaction?

That’s too much logic for in here.

[Dohplaydat]

And out of the half a billion doses of Sinopharm delivered worldwide so far - how many people were killed by an allergic reaction?

It's been covered up dude, but please forget about the rare stroke risk with some vacines, that one slipped through the cracks but the thousands who are dying after vacines has been fully covered up.

/S

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I am glad that there are people on trinituner who are realizing that sMASH is one of the most stupid and politically-aligned persons on this website but poses in many threads as an intellect. There is a Science and Math forum where he posts a lot, but we can see here that he doesn't have a clue about science really.

Sorry for long post.
Smash is not stupid, neither is Hover, just strong in their convictions.
As long as this discussion remains civil, as it is, every misconception can be trashed out and we will all be more informed.

I understand Smash's points, it represents quite a few people that I have had this very discussion people's rights are important, as it is a tenet of civil society.Putting chemicals into your body by force is not something everyone feels comfortable with.Fear of unknown effects is a real issue.Because of the rapid developments taking place in dealing with covid,it can be difficult to trust authority figures as their information today may be wrong tomorrow.Smash is not an anti vaxxer.He is just being cautious as to what he is putting into his body.I can understand that.

There is a lot of misinformation out there being pushed by people like Inshan Ishmael, some pastors , I even heard a pundit talking about if he dies of covid,thats his karma.Couple that with international media outlets pushing false info to sensationalize an issue in order to sell news.
Add to that people like Louis Farrakhan and other pseudo intellectuals pushing conspiracy theories based on race.'Experts' jumping out of the woodwork to give their unsolicited everybody and their mother has an opinion thanks to social media.

At some point, the truth starts to get very blurry.Lets try to be civil and not degenerate into chaos like the political threads here.