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Should vaccine/covid passes be implemented to safely reopen the economy?

Yes
29
48%
For International travel only
3
5%
Yes for travel as well as certain high risk venues e.g. bars, clubs, indoor dining, not for others
7
11%
No, unless unvaccinated can get a pass for negative PCR test
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No votes
No
22
36%
 
Total votes: 61

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Postby redmanjp » November 1st, 2021, 1:01 pm

dining or drinking with masks off in a pandemic is a high risk activity- the vaccine requirement mitigates the risk.

if u have a problem with it then get vaccinated- these places would be still closed outside the safe zone regulations and thousands would be on the breadline. this helps them without creating a mass superspreading event.

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Postby plan4cars9986 » December 17th, 2021, 10:14 am

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
sMASH wrote:no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.

So you read that and decided that there is a great chance of allergic reaction only to Sinopharm?

On the same WHO website section you quoted from
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-s ... ed-to-know

For Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 4.15.00 PM.jpg


yup. coming from a history of people hiding things in fine print only for it to come back and bite u later.

as i said, all others had to the effect, dont take if u have severe allergies... that goes with out saying. this the only one that say anaphylaxis

And what is anaphylaxis?



anybody else notice that this sMASH person missing a while and probably being severely affected by covid because he was one of the smartest antivaxxer heros on trinituner?

get well soon, and well rip too if you dead guy.

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Postby snatman » December 17th, 2021, 10:21 am

where can one report safe zones that flout rules?

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Postby redmanjp » December 17th, 2021, 12:52 pm

snatman wrote:where can one report safe zones that flout rules?


i think it have a Safe Zone Unit in the TTPS now but not sure of how to contact them. Before the number they used was 555.

was reading on FB some bar was just asking patrons if they vaxxed but not checking cards- anyone could have said yes and walked in.

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Postby sMASH » December 22nd, 2021, 5:05 pm

plan4cars9986 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
sMASH wrote:no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.

So you read that and decided that there is a great chance of allergic reaction only to Sinopharm?

On the same WHO website section you quoted from
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-s ... ed-to-know

For Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 4.15.00 PM.jpg



Gortt playing up in they ass, we have work going on to Fite these Vax mandates.

Fleck these blood clott Vaxes.


yup. coming from a history of people hiding things in fine print only for it to come back and bite u later.

as i said, all others had to the effect, dont take if u have severe allergies... that goes with out saying. this the only one that say anaphylaxis

And what is anaphylaxis?



anybody else notice that this sMASH person missing a while and probably being severely affected by covid because he was one of the smartest antivaxxer heros on trinituner?

get well soon, and well rip too if you dead guy.

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Postby Mmoney607 » December 23rd, 2021, 12:33 am

sMASH wrote:
plan4cars9986 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
sMASH wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:
sMASH wrote:no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.

So you read that and decided that there is a great chance of allergic reaction only to Sinopharm?

On the same WHO website section you quoted from
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-s ... ed-to-know

For Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 4.15.00 PM.jpg



Gortt playing up in they ass, we have work going on to Fite these Vax mandates.

Fleck these blood clott Vaxes.


yup. coming from a history of people hiding things in fine print only for it to come back and bite u later.

as i said, all others had to the effect, dont take if u have severe allergies... that goes with out saying. this the only one that say anaphylaxis

And what is anaphylaxis?



anybody else notice that this sMASH person missing a while and probably being severely affected by covid because he was one of the smartest antivaxxer heros on trinituner?

get well soon, and well rip too if you dead guy.


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Postby redmanjp » December 24th, 2021, 1:33 pm

I think it reach 3 % now

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Postby sMASH » December 24th, 2021, 1:52 pm

19 deaths and 900 cases. 2.1%

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Postby Duane 3NE 2NR » December 24th, 2021, 5:36 pm

3.1%

Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)

Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%

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Postby Mmoney607 » December 24th, 2021, 6:17 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%

Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)

Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%


Break that down by age and it will be a very different picture

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Postby Ripe Chenette » December 24th, 2021, 6:32 pm

Mmoney607 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%

Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)

Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%


Break that down by age and it will be a very different picture
Dont forget the obese.

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Postby Ryan197912 » December 24th, 2021, 6:37 pm

Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%

Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)

Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%

The % of vaxxed population should be the % of the population that is eligible for the vaccines...that is persons 12 and over.
Therefore approximately 250,000 persons between the ages of 0-11 cannot be vaccinated at this time...no vaccine has been approved by our MOH for that segment of the population...so including them in the overall population is incorrect..at this time.
As such our real vaccination rate ...of the eligible population is around 60%.

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Postby Mmoney607 » December 24th, 2021, 6:46 pm

Ripe Chenette wrote:
Mmoney607 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%

Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)

Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%


Break that down by age and it will be a very different picture
Dont forget the obese.


Exactly. But when politics reach in, people ignore facts.

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Postby adnj » December 24th, 2021, 7:11 pm

Ryan197912 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%

Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)

Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%

The % of vaxxed population should be the % of the population that is eligible for the vaccines...that is persons 12 and over.
Therefore approximately 250,000 persons between the ages of 0-11 cannot be vaccinated at this time...no vaccine has been approved by our MOH for that segment of the population...so including them in the overall population is incorrect..at this time.
As such our real vaccination rate ...of the eligible population is around 60%.
You point is valid. This is the representation of that part of the population that can contract covid and makes international comparisons less unreliable.

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Postby redmanjp » January 12th, 2022, 6:37 pm

adnj wrote:
Ryan197912 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%

Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)

Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%

The % of vaxxed population should be the % of the population that is eligible for the vaccines...that is persons 12 and over.
Therefore approximately 250,000 persons between the ages of 0-11 cannot be vaccinated at this time...no vaccine has been approved by our MOH for that segment of the population...so including them in the overall population is incorrect..at this time.
As such our real vaccination rate ...of the eligible population is around 60%.
You point is valid. This is the representation of that part of the population that can contract covid and makes international comparisons less unreliable.


Both figures are important. We still want to know the percentage of the population that is immune due to vaccination and hence the percentage that is not as this would influence decisions to open up more places that have not been open since the pandemic started like nightclubs and primary schools.

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Postby redmanjp » January 12th, 2022, 6:40 pm

Any word on the QR code system roll out? That seems to be taking forever. Might be ready when the pandemic ends.

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Postby Ryan197912 » January 12th, 2022, 8:45 pm

redmanjp wrote:
adnj wrote:
Ryan197912 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%

Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)

Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%

The % of vaxxed population should be the % of the population that is eligible for the vaccines...that is persons 12 and over.
Therefore approximately 250,000 persons between the ages of 0-11 cannot be vaccinated at this time...no vaccine has been approved by our MOH for that segment of the population...so including them in the overall population is incorrect..at this time.
As such our real vaccination rate ...of the eligible population is around 60%.
You point is valid. This is the representation of that part of the population that can contract covid and makes international comparisons less unreliable.


Both figures are important. We still want to know the percentage of the population that is immune due to vaccination and hence the percentage that is not as this would influence decisions to open up more places that have not been open since the pandemic started like nightclubs and primary schools.


The vaccine does not provide you with immunity from Covid-19.

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Postby paid_influencer » January 12th, 2022, 9:03 pm

immunity does not mean immunity tho

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Postby adnj » January 12th, 2022, 9:05 pm

Ryan197912 wrote:
redmanjp wrote:
adnj wrote:
Ryan197912 wrote:
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%

Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)

Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%

The % of vaxxed population should be the % of the population that is eligible for the vaccines...that is persons 12 and over.
Therefore approximately 250,000 persons between the ages of 0-11 cannot be vaccinated at this time...no vaccine has been approved by our MOH for that segment of the population...so including them in the overall population is incorrect..at this time.
As such our real vaccination rate ...of the eligible population is around 60%.
You point is valid. This is the representation of that part of the population that can contract covid and makes international comparisons less unreliable.


Both figures are important. We still want to know the percentage of the population that is immune due to vaccination and hence the percentage that is not as this would influence decisions to open up more places that have not been open since the pandemic started like nightclubs and primary schools.


The vaccine does not provide you with immunity from Covid-19.
No.

Every WHO approved COVID vaccine provides some measure of physiological immunity for all current variants of concern. They do not provide sterilizing immunity.

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Postby paid_influencer » January 12th, 2022, 9:40 pm

yup, the definition of "immunity" changed. It is gaslighting, but the definition adnj posted is technically correct, which is the best kind of correct. I wouldn't even try to counter, because I know I would not win.

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Back in early 2021, the mRNA vaccines did essentially give sterilizing immunity (preventing 95% of symptomatic infections). The vaccines really did make you "immune" in the popular sense of the word, with public policy and messaging following suit across the US, Europe and the developed world.

By late in 2021, the limited durability of the vaccines became apparent and the notion of "immunity" as opposed to "sterilizing immunity" had to be made. The public messaging, like the CDC's website captioned above, had to be updated to reflect the diminished effectiveness of the vaccines against symptomatic infection.

Public policy hasn't caught up, imo. These "safe zones" may not be safe in terms of bar patrons bringing covid home to their families, christmas parties acting as super-spreader events, etc. So it is something that should be looked at, especially as immune-escape variants become the norm.

(But we know it won't be looked at. The line of "there is no evidence safe-zones cause spread" will continue to be true as long as we don't look to hard. And the mother of all Carnivals is coming, and that hadda be safe, one way or another).

So we all on the river ride and just kinda hoping we don't die. Some paths a better than others and honestly, right now I feel good to have taken the vaccine and not be as badly off as some of my friends and family that suffering badly with covid right now.

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Postby st7 » January 12th, 2022, 9:47 pm

what website is the screenshot from?

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Postby paid_influencer » January 12th, 2022, 9:48 pm

st7 wrote:what website is the screenshot from?


cdc

no, I do not have the actual hyperlinks around right now

edit: preparing to be gaslit. Immunity never meant sterilizing immunity, We are all stupid for thinking it did.

edit2:
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm

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The CDC updated the definition for “vaccination” which initially read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”

The CDC’s definition for "vaccination" changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

The Covid-19 vaccine does not provide immunity and "safe zones" are not safe (and I am saying this as a fully vaccinated person who contracted the virus in a safe zone). :|

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Postby sucre251 » January 13th, 2022, 10:06 am

Huh well wait until these internet immunologists hear about a virus called Varicella zoster and how much trouble it causes later on in a person who was already infected, or booster shots for tetanus or Streptococcus pneumoniae. But it's like this novel coronavirus has developed an evolutionary method of overcoming the adaptive immune system over time and right now is presenting humanity with the latest and hardest challenge in medical science yet, with so much more to be discovered and solutions and management to be found. I wonder if in 1980 if they found the cure and treatment for another extremely complex and adaptive virus called HIV within 2 years, or did it take about 40 years and is still ongoing research?

These are strange times for the facebook degrees in medicine indeed.

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Postby adnj » January 13th, 2022, 10:19 am

paid_influencer wrote:yup, the definition of "immunity" changed. It is gaslighting, but the definition adnj posted is technically correct, which is the best kind of correct. I wouldn't even try to counter, because I know I would not win.

FGU72qoWQAMi3nI.jpeg


Back in early 2021, the mRNA vaccines did essentially give sterilizing immunity (preventing 95% of symptomatic infections). The vaccines really did make you "immune" in the popular sense of the word, with public policy and messaging following suit across the US, Europe and the developed world.

By late in 2021, the limited durability of the vaccines became apparent and the notion of "immunity" as opposed to "sterilizing immunity" had to be made. The public messaging, like the CDC's website captioned above, had to be updated to reflect the diminished effectiveness of the vaccines against symptomatic infection.

Public policy hasn't caught up, imo. These "safe zones" may not be safe in terms of bar patrons bringing covid home to their families, christmas parties acting as super-spreader events, etc. So it is something that should be looked at, especially as immune-escape variants become the norm.

(But we know it won't be looked at. The line of "there is no evidence safe-zones cause spread" will continue to be true as long as we don't look to hard. And the mother of all Carnivals is coming, and that hadda be safe, one way or another).

So we all on the river ride and just kinda hoping we don't die. Some paths a better than others and honestly, right now I feel good to have taken the vaccine and not be as badly off as some of my friends and family that suffering badly with covid right now.


1. Gaslighting? No.

If you were being "gaslighted" about the definition change, it would require that the change published, the change be denied, and you be told that it never happened.

2. Sterilizing immunity? No. Preventing 95% of symptomatic infections. No.

The tested efficacy of Pfizer's mRNA vaccine was 95% for infection. Sterilizing immunity is 100% efficacy.

Public use of CDC's website increased 1000% by March 2020. There is a very high probability that people interpreted the information in a way that was customary for them; ust as you are doing now. The user base changed and CDC changed to make it clearer, not what you are doing now.

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Sterilizing immunity remains the holy grail of COVID-19 vaccine research, although several candidates in the pipeline show promise. Even so, there are researchers who question whether we actually need a 100% effective vaccine to place COVID-19 behind us and among the likes of polio in the annals of global pandemics.

Unless a vaccine offers sterilizing immunity, there is a chance that the virus can be passed to others even if the infected person has no symptoms.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/covid-19 ... ty-5092148

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Postby st7 » January 13th, 2022, 10:25 am

justheretoreadthecomments wrote:The CDC updated the definition for “vaccination” which initially read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”

The CDC’s definition for "vaccination" changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

The Covid-19 vaccine does not provide immunity and "safe zones" are not safe (and I am saying this as a fully vaccinated person who contracted the virus in a safe zone). :|


did you get infected by someone you were with (close proximity), or a third party?

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Postby justheretoreadthecomments » January 13th, 2022, 12:23 pm

st7 wrote:
justheretoreadthecomments wrote:The CDC updated the definition for “vaccination” which initially read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”

The CDC’s definition for "vaccination" changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

The Covid-19 vaccine does not provide immunity and "safe zones" are not safe (and I am saying this as a fully vaccinated person who contracted the virus in a safe zone). :|


did you get infected by someone you were with (close proximity), or a third party?


Close proximity with someone who was positive and symptomatic. He tested positive a few days post-contact. Up to this day, the gym has not contacted me to inform me that I was a primary contact (even though they ask you to put your name, temperature and telephone number for contact tracing purposes), nor did they inform other members that there were positive cases and as far as I am aware, no professional sanitization of the facility.

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Postby redmanjp » January 13th, 2022, 12:37 pm

'safe' doesn't mean 100% safe. perhaps the name 'safe zone' should be changed. but what it means is you are less likely (but not impossible) to get it from a group of vaxxed ppl than a mixture of vaxxed/unvaxxed ppl. its not anymore safer than an office because those safe zones are where ppl do things which cant be done wearing masks or is not practicable, thus creating a super spreader incident if it were to happen among unvaxxed ppl- the vax status just reduces this likelihood but doesn't prevent all cases.

however with the omicron variant which has immune escape for ppl with only 2 doses looming and starting to spread in the community its going to defeat the purpose of safe zones unless we fast track boosters.

or perhaps as evidence is showing omicron is displacing delta in a few countries so far (UK and Netherlands i think) maybe its a good idea to continue with safe zones?- the double vaxxed less likely to spread delta between each other but will spread the milder omicron- infection gives immunity to delta as well so delta has a harder time spreading among ppl who recovered from omicron and eventually disappears and we reduce ICU admissions and deaths which was caused by delta.
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Postby st7 » January 13th, 2022, 12:55 pm

justheretoreadthecomments wrote:
st7 wrote:
justheretoreadthecomments wrote:The CDC updated the definition for “vaccination” which initially read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”

The CDC’s definition for "vaccination" changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

The Covid-19 vaccine does not provide immunity and "safe zones" are not safe (and I am saying this as a fully vaccinated person who contracted the virus in a safe zone). :|


did you get infected by someone you were with (close proximity), or a third party?


Close proximity with someone who was positive and symptomatic. He tested positive a few days post-contact. Up to this day, the gym has not contacted me to inform me that I was a primary contact (even though they ask you to put your name, temperature and telephone number for contact tracing purposes), nor did they inform other members that there were positive cases and as far as I am aware, no professional sanitization of the facility.


wont be surprised if it's that gym in lange park

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Re: COVID vaccine passes. and SAFE ZONES Yay or Nay?

Postby justheretoreadthecomments » January 13th, 2022, 2:24 pm

st7 wrote:
justheretoreadthecomments wrote:
st7 wrote:
justheretoreadthecomments wrote:The CDC updated the definition for “vaccination” which initially read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”

The CDC’s definition for "vaccination" changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”

The Covid-19 vaccine does not provide immunity and "safe zones" are not safe (and I am saying this as a fully vaccinated person who contracted the virus in a safe zone). :|


did you get infected by someone you were with (close proximity), or a third party?


Close proximity with someone who was positive and symptomatic. He tested positive a few days post-contact. Up to this day, the gym has not contacted me to inform me that I was a primary contact (even though they ask you to put your name, temperature and telephone number for contact tracing purposes), nor did they inform other members that there were positive cases and as far as I am aware, no professional sanitization of the facility.


wont be surprised if it's that gym in lange park


Naaa... this happened in the west. Well known establishment too.

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