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Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:sMASH wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:sMASH wrote:no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.
So you read that and decided that there is a great chance of allergic reaction only to Sinopharm?
On the same WHO website section you quoted from
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-s ... ed-to-know
For Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 4.15.00 PM.jpg
yup. coming from a history of people hiding things in fine print only for it to come back and bite u later.
as i said, all others had to the effect, dont take if u have severe allergies... that goes with out saying. this the only one that say anaphylaxis
And what is anaphylaxis?
snatman wrote:where can one report safe zones that flout rules?
plan4cars9986 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:sMASH wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:sMASH wrote:no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.
So you read that and decided that there is a great chance of allergic reaction only to Sinopharm?
On the same WHO website section you quoted from
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-s ... ed-to-know
For Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 4.15.00 PM.jpg
Gortt playing up in they ass, we have work going on to Fite these Vax mandates.
Fleck these blood clott Vaxes.
yup. coming from a history of people hiding things in fine print only for it to come back and bite u later.
as i said, all others had to the effect, dont take if u have severe allergies... that goes with out saying. this the only one that say anaphylaxis
And what is anaphylaxis?
anybody else notice that this sMASH person missing a while and probably being severely affected by covid because he was one of the smartest antivaxxer heros on trinituner?
get well soon, and well rip too if you dead guy.
sMASH wrote:plan4cars9986 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:sMASH wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:sMASH wrote:no other vaccine had that recommendation. all were to the effect allergic to any component... and that is just common sense.
this the only one used widely, that has that specific recommendation.
So you read that and decided that there is a great chance of allergic reaction only to Sinopharm?
On the same WHO website section you quoted from
https://www.who.int/news-room/feature-s ... ed-to-know
For Moderna Covid-19 vaccine
Screenshot 2021-08-11 at 4.15.00 PM.jpg
Gortt playing up in they ass, we have work going on to Fite these Vax mandates.
Fleck these blood clott Vaxes.
yup. coming from a history of people hiding things in fine print only for it to come back and bite u later.
as i said, all others had to the effect, dont take if u have severe allergies... that goes with out saying. this the only one that say anaphylaxis
And what is anaphylaxis?
anybody else notice that this sMASH person missing a while and probably being severely affected by covid because he was one of the smartest antivaxxer heros on trinituner?
get well soon, and well rip too if you dead guy.
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%
Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)
Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%
Dont forget the obese.Mmoney607 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%
Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)
Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%
Break that down by age and it will be a very different picture
Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%
Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)
Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%
Ripe Chenette wrote:Dont forget the obese.Mmoney607 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%
Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)
Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%
Break that down by age and it will be a very different picture
You point is valid. This is the representation of that part of the population that can contract covid and makes international comparisons less unreliable.Ryan197912 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%
Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)
Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%
The % of vaxxed population should be the % of the population that is eligible for the vaccines...that is persons 12 and over.
Therefore approximately 250,000 persons between the ages of 0-11 cannot be vaccinated at this time...no vaccine has been approved by our MOH for that segment of the population...so including them in the overall population is incorrect..at this time.
As such our real vaccination rate ...of the eligible population is around 60%.
adnj wrote:You point is valid. This is the representation of that part of the population that can contract covid and makes international comparisons less unreliable.Ryan197912 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%
Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)
Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%
The % of vaxxed population should be the % of the population that is eligible for the vaccines...that is persons 12 and over.
Therefore approximately 250,000 persons between the ages of 0-11 cannot be vaccinated at this time...no vaccine has been approved by our MOH for that segment of the population...so including them in the overall population is incorrect..at this time.
As such our real vaccination rate ...of the eligible population is around 60%.
redmanjp wrote:adnj wrote:You point is valid. This is the representation of that part of the population that can contract covid and makes international comparisons less unreliable.Ryan197912 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%
Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)
Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%
The % of vaxxed population should be the % of the population that is eligible for the vaccines...that is persons 12 and over.
Therefore approximately 250,000 persons between the ages of 0-11 cannot be vaccinated at this time...no vaccine has been approved by our MOH for that segment of the population...so including them in the overall population is incorrect..at this time.
As such our real vaccination rate ...of the eligible population is around 60%.
Both figures are important. We still want to know the percentage of the population that is immune due to vaccination and hence the percentage that is not as this would influence decisions to open up more places that have not been open since the pandemic started like nightclubs and primary schools.
No.Ryan197912 wrote:redmanjp wrote:adnj wrote:You point is valid. This is the representation of that part of the population that can contract covid and makes international comparisons less unreliable.Ryan197912 wrote:Duane 3NE 2NR wrote:3.1%
Virus:
• Tests: 499573 (+1400)
• Cases: 88944 (+964)
• Actives: 16543 (+518)
• Deaths: 2718 (+37) | 3.1%
• Recoveries: 69683 (+409)
Vaccines:
• Dose 1: 659347 (+540)
• Dose 2: 664548 (+717)
• Dose 3: 66673 (+1337)
• Pop Vaxed: 47.3%
The % of vaxxed population should be the % of the population that is eligible for the vaccines...that is persons 12 and over.
Therefore approximately 250,000 persons between the ages of 0-11 cannot be vaccinated at this time...no vaccine has been approved by our MOH for that segment of the population...so including them in the overall population is incorrect..at this time.
As such our real vaccination rate ...of the eligible population is around 60%.
Both figures are important. We still want to know the percentage of the population that is immune due to vaccination and hence the percentage that is not as this would influence decisions to open up more places that have not been open since the pandemic started like nightclubs and primary schools.
The vaccine does not provide you with immunity from Covid-19.
st7 wrote:what website is the screenshot from?
paid_influencer wrote:yup, the definition of "immunity" changed. It is gaslighting, but the definition adnj posted is technically correct, which is the best kind of correct. I wouldn't even try to counter, because I know I would not win.
Back in early 2021, the mRNA vaccines did essentially give sterilizing immunity (preventing 95% of symptomatic infections). The vaccines really did make you "immune" in the popular sense of the word, with public policy and messaging following suit across the US, Europe and the developed world.
By late in 2021, the limited durability of the vaccines became apparent and the notion of "immunity" as opposed to "sterilizing immunity" had to be made. The public messaging, like the CDC's website captioned above, had to be updated to reflect the diminished effectiveness of the vaccines against symptomatic infection.
Public policy hasn't caught up, imo. These "safe zones" may not be safe in terms of bar patrons bringing covid home to their families, christmas parties acting as super-spreader events, etc. So it is something that should be looked at, especially as immune-escape variants become the norm.
(But we know it won't be looked at. The line of "there is no evidence safe-zones cause spread" will continue to be true as long as we don't look to hard. And the mother of all Carnivals is coming, and that hadda be safe, one way or another).
So we all on the river ride and just kinda hoping we don't die. Some paths a better than others and honestly, right now I feel good to have taken the vaccine and not be as badly off as some of my friends and family that suffering badly with covid right now.
justheretoreadthecomments wrote:The CDC updated the definition for “vaccination” which initially read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”
The CDC’s definition for "vaccination" changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”
The Covid-19 vaccine does not provide immunity and "safe zones" are not safe (and I am saying this as a fully vaccinated person who contracted the virus in a safe zone).
st7 wrote:justheretoreadthecomments wrote:The CDC updated the definition for “vaccination” which initially read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”
The CDC’s definition for "vaccination" changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”
The Covid-19 vaccine does not provide immunity and "safe zones" are not safe (and I am saying this as a fully vaccinated person who contracted the virus in a safe zone).
did you get infected by someone you were with (close proximity), or a third party?
justheretoreadthecomments wrote:st7 wrote:justheretoreadthecomments wrote:The CDC updated the definition for “vaccination” which initially read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”
The CDC’s definition for "vaccination" changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”
The Covid-19 vaccine does not provide immunity and "safe zones" are not safe (and I am saying this as a fully vaccinated person who contracted the virus in a safe zone).
did you get infected by someone you were with (close proximity), or a third party?
Close proximity with someone who was positive and symptomatic. He tested positive a few days post-contact. Up to this day, the gym has not contacted me to inform me that I was a primary contact (even though they ask you to put your name, temperature and telephone number for contact tracing purposes), nor did they inform other members that there were positive cases and as far as I am aware, no professional sanitization of the facility.
st7 wrote:justheretoreadthecomments wrote:st7 wrote:justheretoreadthecomments wrote:The CDC updated the definition for “vaccination” which initially read, “the act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.” Now, the word “immunity” has been switched to “protection.”
The CDC’s definition for "vaccination" changed from “a product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease” to the current “a preparation that is used to stimulate the body’s immune response against diseases.”
The Covid-19 vaccine does not provide immunity and "safe zones" are not safe (and I am saying this as a fully vaccinated person who contracted the virus in a safe zone).
did you get infected by someone you were with (close proximity), or a third party?
Close proximity with someone who was positive and symptomatic. He tested positive a few days post-contact. Up to this day, the gym has not contacted me to inform me that I was a primary contact (even though they ask you to put your name, temperature and telephone number for contact tracing purposes), nor did they inform other members that there were positive cases and as far as I am aware, no professional sanitization of the facility.
wont be surprised if it's that gym in lange park